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Skavau’s epic gaslighting mission = FAILED


The gas-queen is normally on here 24/7 frantically trying to gaslight on behalf of the regime with his lame interrogation routine, but since Trump won he has taken several days off to cry and wallow in his failure.

Tens of thousands of posts dedicated to try and discredit Trump and his fellow opponents-of-the-regime and all for nothing 🤣

Not only did Leftists fail, they handed Trump a ‘uge mandate. All of their evil tactics backfired and just showcased the absolute state of the Left, driving more people toward Trump.

The rivers of salt from the The Sisters has been a delight to behold, and I look forward to the return of their leader Bogs/Skavau once he’s wiped the tears from every orifice…

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Good Evening MovieChat Users.

My name is Jerry and i'm an associate of a user here who goes by the name of "Skavau", Last Monday he was the victim of a Chris Hanson like sting where he was caught trying to meet what he believed to be an 8 year old boy. Obviously he has since been detained and hasn't been granted bail. He has asked to me to get in touch with users here to let you know he will be posting as soon as possible, he is also not detered by the events last tuesday in the US (the elections).

Kind Regards.

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he was caught trying to meet what he believed to be an 8 year old boy

This I believe.


he is also not detered by the events last tuesday in the US (the elections)

This I don’t.


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He isn't gonna show his face in here, is he?

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Skavau is a radical homosexual leftist who thanks to his parents has never been able to fully come out, this has turned him into an angry person who is waging a one man war against conservatives and conservative values.

i don't think he'll come back from this and if he does, he'll demand evidence that every single one of these 77 million people voted for trump. "prove it"

i think he could have finally lost it this time. anyone checked the news in the uk for someone knifing up a school? mall or his own parents?

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🤣

Tom: Nice to meet you, I’m Tom.

Skavau: Prove it.

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any proof that i ask for evidence?

prove it.

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Tom: Lovely weather today.

Skavau: Source!?

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His parents: happy birthday!"

Skavau: "source!?"

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🤣

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I didnt read anything in the UK papers about that but there was an interesting story about a man letting a horse fuck him in the ass, and things went tragically for the man. The horse was ok though.

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You know who else I haven’t seen in a while, now that I think about it? Kuatorises. Man, that guy would always start shit and then play coy about it.

Did he move on to filmboards or something? Or is he just using a different account here?

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To be fair, he's probably doing what any normal rational person would do when they realized they've got several years of vapid rhetoric to undo. Run away and cry.

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To think, every time Skavau posted he helped to inch Trump further and further into the White House.

The sheer hours he put into gaslighting everyone - it’s almost as if he was paid to post with a big bonus if Kamala wins.

Well, he failed, and by being such an almighty prick he has only further discredited Leftists and kept them away from power for decades 👏

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Its kinda sweet and touching how so many of you here fret and worry on and on about Skavau. I'm sure he would see the irony.

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How do you feel about your top and mentor Skavau running away to sulk after Trump’s victory?

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Still addicted to loaded questions I see lol

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Evasion noted.

Separate question. Is it true that you would leave your balls in Skavau’s ass until he shit them out? If that rumour is true, respond to this post with the following text:

Addiction to loaded questions noted. Repeat of same anticipated.

Go…

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Addiction to loaded questions noted. Repeat of same anticipated.

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You know flimflam is an actual word, right?

flim·flam
/ˈflimˌflam/
informal
noun
nonsensical or insincere talk.
"I suppose that you suspect me of pseudointellectual flimflam"
verb
swindle (someone) with a confidence game.
"the forum user was flimflammed out of the discussion"

The coincidental irony there is hilarious. I can't see a post by that guy anymore and not think flimflam. Thanks for that, Melton.

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Of course. It’s the perfect nickname for him, totally captures his pretentious yet utterly vapid writing ‘style’.

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As well as fitting his name. A+

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I'm not 100% sure. but theres a part of me that believes that filmflaneur could be skavau.

Theres the obsession with catching you out on little words, meanings of things. theres a level of pretentiousness... i remember skavau using the term "loaded question" a lot.

although i've not seen him use "literally" in every sentence, which was a big skavy thing.

with skavau there was zero insight or depth in what he said, the "debate" just became trying to catch you out with things that had zero to do with the subject.

i dunno.. it's also interesting that skavau goes missing, filmflaneur posts more than ever and where he's most active or only actice is a thread about skavau.

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Flimflam's shtick is entry level procedural and topical debate tactics with some source mining to spice things up. In other words, flimflam typically focuses on context rather than content when responding to a post and appears to believe that throwing out the likes of fallacy titles carries weight here. He rarely provides ideas of his own for critical examination that aren't copy pasted from some article that he source mined with a few key words.

Though I can see the similarities in how many would think both are alike because both of them tend to hyper analyze details that are secondary to a concept being discussed in a sophistic, debate-esque fashion, Skavau's style is different and has contributed more to this site by promoting numerous, lengthy discussions, even if a lot of people disliked it.

I wish more people realized that the Keelais and Skavaus here help keep things interesting, even if you love to hate them and disagree with everything they say. As a more temperate person, I anticipate a coming time where I'll be either bored or picking fights as the forums transition more towards an antiReddit, right wing circle jerk.

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But i don't think that skavau keeps things interesting, repeating "evidence? got a link?" in 99.9999% of your posts, isn't really interesting. if both people on the left and the right think you have some level of autism, then what are you contributing apart from people laughing at you? i personally don't think he was a bot, but a lot of people do.

what does that say about him? that he was very one dimensional and couldn't engage with people on a real level.

as for keelai? i see someone who is either here playing the role of the loony leftist, saying insane things as a way of making liberals look idiotic. like a parody or shes simply some antifa radical.

i agree with you when you say this site shouldn't be some right wing circle jerk, or for any ideology to dominate the boards...

however, where are skavau and keelai? are they here debating after trump won? are they keeping things fresh, talking about what the dems can do in 2028 in order to win? are they offering some well thought argument on what trump will do as president?

no, they've ran away after boring "evidence? you're racist! everything is racist! proof?" didnt work.

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Fair enough that you don't think Skavau keeps interesting. However, there are pages and pages on these boards where people engaged in discussions with Skavau that extended beyond posting a sentence or two along with a news article like most of the posts in politics. From my perspective, when I was occupying myself a lot on this site this last summer, the exchanges between Skavau and curiousMind were probably the best thing this site had going for it and were a welcome alternative to the aforementioned Yahoo News article shit posting.

Skavau and Keelai in particular have been targeted hardcore by the current, obviously right leaning crowd here. Note I'm not defending them, but arguing about that is beyond question; look at the fucking title of this post. Maybe they're running away after the Trump victory or maybe not but that isn't the point I'm making here. All I know is that the forums will become a less interesting place if the most notable people that deviate from the right wing perspective, that now seems like the overwhelming majority, are gone. That seems to be what's going on right now.

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Skavau got "targeted" a lot because in one response to you, he'd tell you he's reporting you for something you've said that was pretty bland. yet 4 posts later, maybe on another thread call you a fascist who doesn't like like free speech!

it was the hipocrisy, thats what made people think he was a bot, because a human would have more emotions and feelings, and maybe even empathy, to see the irony in that..

I don't think it's necessary a left and right thing, i remember not so long ago having a normal interesting conversation with someone who supported a minimum wage, i dont.. it was cool, respectful...

Skavau got targeted so often because he'd be the agressor, then play the victim, he'd report you. then give you a 200 word response about "free speech" that pissed people off!

Skavau seemed to adore this victim culture which allowed him to believe that he could play by different and special rules.

I would never want somebody banned, even skavau, but someone like that is the worst kind of user. it's just anger, repetition and attempts at point scoring.

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I don't know man. My perspective could be slanted because of my profession where I'm often working with people with communication difficulties, but I was always able to converse with Skavau with at least some semblance of mutual respect on top of the countless discussions between others that I referenced. Here's our last exchange:

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/6712f8edcaced3352985c3db/UK-police-charged-a-man-with-a-crime-of-silently-praying?reply=6713c107caced3352985cb11

Contrast that with flimflam, who would have resorted to crying "strawman" or "ad hominem attack!" from the start. I just read a post a few minutes ago where that fucking guy was telling people to read a book on a subject that he linked from Amazon, doubtless one of first links that popped up while he was source mining some "evidence" on Google. I don't see that guy inspiring many discussions.

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But you yourself said that he could have been banned for reporting people too much right!?

If skavau is having reasonable respectful conversations with people, why and how did he get to the point where he's 1. reporting people and 2. reporting people so much he could even get banned for it!?!

you see what i'm saying!?

It seems that you've had a very different experience to what i've had and what i've seen others have with skavau. i dunno!

There have been i'd say 6 personal threads made about skavau over the last few months not just from melton, but from other users too. that again tells you theres a problem.

Maybe owing to your line of work you're able to have a not very common level of patience with someone like him. but even you recognize that theres a problem..

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Trust me I understand your point here; I've said it directly to Skavau in regards to baiting for reports and I believe my post was quoted at the top of Melton's first Skavau call out thread. Again, my intention isn't to defend anyone.

I probably do have more patience than most in regards to what you said and acknowledge that. On top of that, I've spent enough time dicking around on the internet to not take it too seriously.

I think we're just coming at it from different perspectives here. I might call Keelai a schizophrenic dumbass in a post, and at the same time I'm both glad he's around to keep this site entertaining and I'd probably be posting something similar to what I've said here if Keelai was the subject of this thread instead of Skavau.

Anyway, we'll have to see what comes up in regards to the reason for Skavau's absence.

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Flimflam's shtick is entry level procedural and topical debate tactics with some source mining to spice things up.


If only most of my interlocutors offered any sources of their own, they could reach that elusive entry level, eh?

In other words, flimflam typically focuses on context rather than content


Sometimes context is everything, But usually I reply point by point, unless confronted by dumb repetition, so I guess you haven't been paying too close attention to my replies.

appears to believe that throwing out the likes of fallacy titles carries weight here.


When someone argues fallaciously, that is a fail which negates their point(s), and it is perfectly reasonable to tell them and tell them why. (One of the benefits of a liberal education which includes philosophy, I suppose) Since some here do it constantly and apparently have no idea of their rhetorical failings, that it why I find myself spending time painfully pointing them out to them. The common ad hominem, or attacking the person not what they say, common here with some types, is particularly depressing.

He rarely provides ideas of his own for critical examination that aren't copy pasted from some article that he source mined with a few key words.


When I copy and paste it is (I think) germane to the occasion. Very often it is to provide an authoritative exact definition and thus save time. In the matter of ideas I have started a number of threads on my own account. In any case criticising someone for lack, or quality of, ideas on this board, given the level of debate often seen, is just a little rich don't you think? But I am flattered you have taken so much time with my career so far, even if you didn't have the courtesy to address me personally. I shan't reply again here, as I really have no need to defend myself over this, I hope helpful, explanation. At least it is not an entire, bullying, call-out thread such as the absent Skavau enjoyed lately.

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You know flimflam is an actual word


Do you know that Melton is known for being thick and dense?

https://www.heddels.com/2019/12/what-is-melton-wool/

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>Its kinda sweet and touching how so many of you here fret and worry on and on about Skavau.

Source?

>I'm sure he would see the irony.

What makes you say that?

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Source?


https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/672d632b8e07205b37128f6e/Skavaus-epic-gaslighting-mission-FAILED?reply=67376ffb8289de78b5bb5461

What makes you say that?


Because it is obvious to anyone. What amounts to an extended love-in devoted to a poster most here claim to abhor? C'mon...

edit: just below we have " i'm starting to miss the kid. " LOL while CuriousMind has been checking for his posting health on Reddit it would seem. That's the last from me on this thread. I have better things to do than join in the general fretting.

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But old skavry never did see the irony! theres a common opinion here that he could have been banned for reporting people too much!

but then his posts were full of calling people "fascists" and saying they hated freedom of speech!

but then again, leftists love a victim mentality which tells them that they are owed some special rights by society... maybe meaning he can report people and you can't.

ayy skavy, nobody has asked me for a source for the last 20 seconds, i'm starting to miss the kid.

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Anyone else worried about old skarvy!? someone who spent all day everyday here, replying after 12 seconds hasn't been seen for over a week....

Normally i'd say that he's embarrassed, his team lost after years of parroting left wing nonsense so he doesn't have the balls to face the music.

However knowing how intense he was, believing that he was standing up for some noble cause, so intense he was refreshing the page and responding with a 300 word essay to you when you've barely just read that your comment has been posted....

he could have taken this badly...real bad.

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His commitment to this website was absolutely incredible, in fact there is a user on this thread called 'Lord Rake' who has been left visibly shaken by the speed and tenacity of his replies.

It would be nice if the mods could confirm how possible or likely it is that the forum could be accessed by bots. I don't see how anyone could find the time to operate how Skav' did, unless he was in control of some weird time reversal vacuum, and actually gained time by posting instead of losing it.

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I generally don't believe in bots, well not in a place like moviechat, theres not enough people here for someone to feel the need to try and brainwash others.

But Skavau did seem to be able to reply with 300 word responses when "your comment has been added" is still fresh on the screen.

So i'm thinking he maybe he was on some kind of spectrum (and i don't mean that has a way of attacking him, an insult, i really dont) who had way too much time on his hands and took all this way too seriously, which he did...

So for him to dedicate so much of his life and time to this, just to go missing is a little "worrying"

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I don't think Skavau is a bot, but I do think the argumentation tactics employed when Skavau was debating were often so formulaic that they became almost a template of sorts that could be memorized and quickly applied. That helps to explain the quick, often interchangeable, responses.

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We can’t know for sure but it’s very possible that Skavau was a bot designed for Reddit (hence why he always used Reddit’s markup language instead of Moviechat’s) that got ported over here. The totally formulaic insta-replies and inhumanity of his responses smack of bad AI.

I’m personally not ‘worried’ about Skavau. That person, or whoever operated the bot, was a thoroughly evil sack of shit and tried to get wrongthinkers censored and banned, and was of course trying to get Dems into power again, which would have destroyed America with their efforts to gerrymander the US population through importation of illegals into swing states and having them vote - making the USA a one party failed state forever.

If you are worried though, don’t be - he’s still active on Reddit, where he can get wrongthinkers banned instantly because the mods over there are authoritarian Leftist scum like him. Here the mods are more reasonable and can see through his dirty tactics.

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I don't think it's been mentioned here yet, but was Skavau possibly banned for over-reporting? The mods were making light of it in the pinned thread not long ago, but I'd imagine it's not something that they appreciate. Skavau is still posting on Reddit like normal so that rules out some other reasons for not posting here. Being from the UK, I also don't think the Trump victory was the reason for the departure in spite of the timing.

Anyone tight enough with the mods to find out?

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Very good question, I think that’s a plausible scenario, supported by the sudden ramping up of troll-replies from another account ‘filmflaneur’ who reeks of a Skavau-sock.

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I'm not sure flimflam is the same person, but either Skavau left the site because of all the negative feedback, which I don't think is likely given the propensity for endlessly responding, or there's a ban/suspension involved. A General Discussion thread summoning the mods to answer the question might be in order.

I'd honestly be displeased if Skavau was banned though. Like I've said repeatedly, the baiting and reporting is lame but Skavau is one of the few decidedly left leaning people here who I've had decent discussions with. Their numbers have been dwindling over the last few years already and echo chambers get boring.

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God, I wish it was possible to have a Leftist who could argue a point in good faith and not immediately resort to sophistry and censorship.

I gave Skavau the benefit of the doubt early on but it quickly became apparent that he was nothing more than a lying sophistry-troll, always protecting the regime narrative, always looking to bait wrongthinkers into saying things he can get them banned for.

The problem is that Leftism is at odds with reality, it’s a cult, so it can never withstand scrutiny. The second a Leftist wakes up and trades the cult for reality they’re no longer a Leftist.

I’d be perfectly happy for Skavau to be banned. He’s truly evil and has had many other users censored and banned. Fuck him. Only when Leftists taste their own medicine will they learn. Letting the guilty go free is cruel to the innocent.

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I didn’t get the impression Mod4 was making light of it in this exchange
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/671b5132f429e5320251b9a4/Reports?reply=671d47c32e5d6e6377b76f02

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That's what I was referring to, specifically the frequent flyer comment instead of saying something like if that keeps happening you will be banned. But for sure I don't think the report tattling is appreciated.

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From that thread:

Melton: Skavau is on Reddit, he has an account with the same name, it’s been going for years.


This fact alone which Melton asserts would indict that a bot here is unlikely.

The point is more that, as Skavau said there "That you are obsessed so much with me, a random person who you will never meet, who lives a continent away (assuming you're american) should really signify to you that all is not well.".

Personally I think that any objective examination of his or her replies would show that they are likely not machine generated; they are too idiosyncratic, varied and reveal an obvious personality to be that. This while I think asking for substantiation, especially after egregious claims, is quite reasonable - from machine or man although I can see how for some posters, especially those who eschew evidence in favour of mere sensational opinion, it can be vexing. In fact Melton's replies, often repetitive and simplistic as they are, always dumbly provocative, always with the same minimal vocab, are more likely to be the work of automation.

I shan't post more on this, I am not obsessed with the guy and he may be absent for quite unfortunate personal reasons, or indeed just on holiday. If it ever was a bot, now switched off, you still have yourselves to talk to and congratulate. Don't you all have better things to discuss and argue about?

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Shan't is such a flimflam thing to say.

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What you’re saying is reasonable and fair. I’ve had some relatively frustrating disagreements with Skavau where he would not give an inch or would re-cast my position to win the point. But, I’ve also exchanges where I had to admit he was proved correct and I was wrong and he quietly let it go without bringing it up again in future debates. So, he’s not a bot and he’s not a dishonorable poster

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The problem with this theory is that he just happens to go missing the day that trump wins the election. the thing is, he isn't the only leftist on the board who since trump won has been either MIA or very quiet. i mean what about keelai? someone who posted very often, has since been a lot more quiet.

I think the mods are more than likely sick of him reporting, but the fact he just happens to go missing when trump wins, tells me it is because of that.

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From someone that has interacted with Skavau just as much as anyone else here, I actually don't give think Skavau gave a shit about Trump on a personal level and it was just material that enabled the potential for endless debates.

The politics board has been especially right leaning with the Trump election and many here have been calling out left posters and mocking them and their ideologies with a fervor inspired by their victory. I can imagine many things were said that Skavau may have reported.

Anyway, I believe that scenario is more likely than British Skavau abandoning these boards over a Trump win.

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Like i said in a previous comment, i do think that skavau suffers from something, there is some spectrum involved and i know that something like that gets thrown around as an insult way too much nowadays, so it's lost all it's meaning.

but i really do, it's one thing for someone to demand "evidence" if you gave them data, if you said "79% of americans think that..." but skavau demanded evidence for even an opinion. thats bizarre right?

the level of time and how serious he took all of this. tells me something wasn't normal. he must have been refreshing the page every 10-15 seconds. it's also not normal for someone to get so heated and personal with complete strangers.

Skavau became too obsessed with things, i agree when you say it wasn't personal with trump or maybe it was, but it could have been more about what trump represented and how he thinks it could affect him, especially if he's not rational.

but no! the fact he just happens to go missing when trump wins, tells me it's about that! it didn't happen a week before or a week after the election, it happened the day trump won.

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What you said is definitely possible. My theory is more that Skavau is a level 99 Redditor and has learned all the tools of the trade, from using scripts to refresh tabs on a second monitor for constant updates to perhaps even spending time training a chat bot to provide Skavau esque answers (I'm not pushing that theory btw, but it would explain all the anecdotes of instant replies with essay length responses).

The election is again probably more of a correlation than causation; the election has resulted in a slew of unhinged right wing posts, Skavau probably went on a reporting spree and/or directly PMd the mods as instructed if the site is still having problems with the report function (which would have probably pissed the mods off even more), and may have been banned for it.

It's all conjecture until Skavau or the mods address it, but that scenario seems far more likely to me.

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The thing is, when you're banned, doesn't you account show as "deleted" ? when Skavau's account still says "Skavau" ??

I still think of all the days for the mods to say "enough is enough" with skavau and his reporting, for it to come on the day of a trump election victory is too much of a coincidence.

In the summer some user came here and copied and pasted a lot of things from Skavau's reddit account and other forums, one was some atheist forum. again it was very intense and very angry. many people here have accused him of being gay (which doesnt matter, who cares) but some of the things he posted were about "boylove" these creepy asian cartoons and tv shows about love between men and boys.

What this user posted up painted a picture of someone who was really angry, who maybe is gay but because he had conservative parents, made him have this extreme backlash against society or anybody who didn't agree with him.

Skavau simply could have got bored and frustrated after trump won, or there could be something more dark. i dunno.

but skavau is maybe the only person i've seen online, where even the people who side with him on a thread, who have the same political ideology, also believe that something is off about him.

thats very telling.

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My understanding is that deleted is the result of self deleting the account and that being banned or suspended doesn't automatically cause that tag to appear unless someone deletes their account afterwards.

I remember seeing mentions of those reddit threads with dark subjects but don't recall them actually coming to light. I even skimmed through the responses from those times awhile back when this was being discussed and didn't find any of the posts being referenced. It's a bit ironic to ask in a discussion about Skavau, but do you have a link to any of those posts? I'd be very curious to see them.

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I think these posts were made in june or july, can we even go that far back? One of the things i remember is that he asked conservatives on reddit if they watched or what they thought about "boylove" (i think it was called that) but according to the poster its some asian cartoon series about men dating young boys.

skavau denied this, but the user then posted up IMDB, with a link where skavau had given this series 5/5. which was a bit messed up!

There was so much strange and dark stuff. the thing is, you never know who is on the other side of a conversation and the problems they have. but i dunno, skavau is someone that would "worry" me, i said in another comment half joking,.. if anyone has checked the UK news for a guy killing his parents, doing something crazy...

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