Artificial Insemination (IVF)
Is this another conservative trigger point?
I didnt know it was an political "thing" but I heard Trump being asked what he thought of it the other day.
Trump said the gov will pay for it. total silence from the leftoids.
shareThat's because in many cases they should.
Defendant Donald's problem is the recent verdict in Alabama where on February 16, 2024, the state Supreme Court issued a first-of-its-kind decision that overruled a lower court's dismissal and held that stored embryos are afforded the same legal protection as children. This had a drastic effect on IVF services in the state.
Given the unpopularity of abortion restriction in the country generally and the large number of IVF treatments among Republican supporters, given the close nature of this coming election , Defendant Donald has felt the need to row back somewhat especially as the fear is that voters will feel that abortion restrictions nationally could be extended to IVF if he wins.
"total silence from the leftoids."
Well what noise were you expecting the leftoids to make?
What noise are the magas making ?
This is the point of my op
Who's for , who is against ?
For me its pretty wild that peoples opinions on this would be dictated by the political party they vote for, so im trying to establish if this is the case.
was expecting the liberal hive mind to freak out and whine about how much it will cost...
too late, I stand corrected.
"We Want More Babies... With Someone Else's Money"
posted 16 hours ago by chilidoggg (13652)
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Donald Trump announced Thursday that he will require insurance companies or the government to cover "all costs associated" with in-vitro fertilization if he's reelected.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/30/trump-ivf-coverage/75011110007/
Pray tell, where does "the government" get the money to spend? = the same way "the government" got the money to pay off student loans and to send Ukraine billions.
"That's brilliant! I wish I'd said it!"
Oh wait - I did say it!
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/66d50389d59e2c49249df9af/We-Want-More-Babies-With-Someone-Elses-Money?reply=66d53062d59e2c49249dfc14
I don't understand why the Trailertarians don't vote Democratic, Dems will spend for anything and everything you want, and they won't piss on your leg and tell you "it's conservative."
No, they'll just tax you on gains you haven't realized, and force you into the street....sounds much better.
shareAh right so its not the actual subject of IVF thats causing the controversy , just the cost of it?
fair enough I get that
"Trump announced Thursday that he will require insurance companies or the government to cover "all costs associated""
So thats on peoples health insurance right? therefore cost will be covered by all the other customers , as is the way insurance works.
Are there any other things covered by Health insurance that shouldnt be ? you know - things that wouldnt kill ya?
therapy? viagra? anti depressants?
"cost will be covered by all the other customers, as is the way insurance works."
That's what I said. "We want more babies, with someone else's money."
yeah i got that , i wasnt denying it
But , as I said thats insurance - look at all those freeloaders falling off their bikes , breaking their legs and getting a free cast on your money!
I've never claimed on any of the many types of insurance I pay for - like house insurance , then you get other assholes pushing the prices up by throwing their TV down the stairs every time they want a new one.
I guess the question is, is finding yourself infertile and needing medical assistance to have a baby the same thing as finding you have any other medical issue you would normally have your insurance pay for?
This website says the cost of IVF in California is roughly $20k.
https://www.pfcla.com/blog/ivf-costs-california#:~:text=PGT%2DM%20(PGD),identification%20of%20specific%20gene%20mutations.
Just my opinion, but no one should be having kids until their late 20's, I had mine in my early 30's, you need to live with your significant other for at least 4 years beforehand...
$20k expense can be planned for.
That's what I said. "We want more babies, with someone else's money."
In the UK IVF is offered on the NHS, at least if certain criteria are met. share
what I find mind blowing, is that dems have no problems spending money when they are in charge. but when republicans are in charge they are for fiscal responsibility and whine about the national debt.
the supreme court said it was illegal to pay off student loans. Joe said FU I am going to do it anyways. if Trump had done that. Nancy and the dems would be trying to impeach him.
"when republicans are in charge they [Dems] are for fiscal responsibility and whine about the national debt."
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-responds-critics-rising-federal-spending-debt-deficit-presidency-fundraiser-2020-1-1028833452
"Who the hell cares about the budget? We're going to have a country!"
yup, now in the almost past 4 years the national debt has went from $27t to $34t and dems dont care. free money for everyone!
shareWhy the hell would the right complain about government funded healthcare? It's the right that does this shit. If anything, silence from them would be an outrage in itself since they love giving tax breaks while making up for it by cutting social/health services.
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