I wonder about Iran - Politics Discussion

[–] Skavau (15993) 6 months ago

North Korea says the same thing about South Korea. Bluster for domestic audiences.

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[–] BeaSouth (3555) 6 months ago

Man I hope you’re right. I never thought Russia would roll into Ukraine. It seems like when it comes to war, nothing is certain. My genuinely biggest concern is China invading Taiwan. It would be a disaster for China but I have lost all confidence in America's leadership, both military and civilian, to handle a conflict of that magnitude

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[–] jriley555 (8534) 6 months ago

I wonder why Israel thinks provoking a full-on war with Iran is something that will benefit their interest. This is clearly a long-term objective, but I fail to see its utility/appeal from what I can imagine is in Israel's interest.

They also, of course, want to make sure they can stick the US in the passenger seat, and have them pay for all the gas.

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[–] BillHicksFan (10709) 6 months ago

It's like a little shit who starts trouble, and then runs behind his mother's skirt.

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[–] jriley555 (8534) 6 months ago

From one viewpoint, they clearly apprehend that Iran's proxies are doing Iran's dirty work. But those proxies' leverage/appeal come from Israel's domestic oppression/dispossession of their native population, which EQUALS the Jewish population. Israel is running roughshod over half the people it controls.

Taking all that in, Israel can and does adopt the view that Iran/proxies have some nefarious motive to oppose them, but what they would never admit is their own policies & crimes are the basic motivator/instigator/legitimization of all the blow back they receive. Its the cost of doing business, as they choose to do it (encroach/dispossess/ethnic cleanse the occupied territories).

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[–] ProgsReturn (2221) 6 months ago

Biden's legacy as President.

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[–] [deleted] 6 months ago

I thought Iran is upset (the most recent time they got upset) over Israel killing a higher up of Hamas? And now Iran is threatening to pummel Israel because of it? Is that not the latest reason for the Iran/Israel increasing conflict?

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[–] jriley555 (8534) 6 months ago

Yes. The fairly obvious reasons for Israel killing the latest two are :

It lets the air out of the tire on a Western demand for a ceasefire in Gaza, which Israel has set its course upon for the duration (full-on ethnic cleansing / genocide) - i.e. keeping the region on a full boil.

It hits back on the (Iranian backed) proxies raining missiles upon them. Hizbollah (in direct response to the Israeli genocide in Gaza) is raining missiles on northern Israel, making it ALSO unliveable - 60-100k Israelis have been relocated southward.

The ultimate cause of this slaughter & mayhem is Israel's campaign of injustice to the Palestinians over generations.

If Israel had simply treated its natives fairly, over the last 50 years at least, once its military superiority had been well established, Israel would have long since enjoyed a comprehensive peace. They chose expansion/dispossession/oppression, and got along with it, a host of enemies.

Clearly, if they were trying to calm things down, they wouldn't have undertaken these highly provocative assassinations. The proof is in the pudding.

What is particularly infuriating about it is the reality that they drag US into it - their war criminal PM comes over to get his butt licked by MAGAtty legislators, while they actually -depend- upon US military armaments to enact 'their' genocidal war-making policies.

Who's the boss ?

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[–] Lord Rake (4533) 6 months ago

Israel just cant help but stir up shit. According to them all these other people are too crazy to even care about self preservation and are on the verge of popping off, but then they never do. They just want to control the whole region to make all the profit.

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[–] [deleted] 6 months ago

If they could, they would. the problem they have that is that islam just creates backwardness. israel is much more advanced and inteligent.

but if iran had the weapons? they'd do it tomorrow. they think destroying israel will bring about the mahdi.

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[–] jriley555 (8534) 6 months ago

Incredibly simplistic (basically bogus) take. Just what I would expect from you. You don't know shit about history.

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[–] [deleted] 6 months ago

so you can't answer what i've said? embarrassing.

i've answered the question with the reality of it, you've posted a bunch of crap thats meaningless.

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[–] jriley555 (8534) 6 months ago

You're one of those fellows who has no idea how appallingly ignorant they are - or doesn't care, and blathers on anyway, letting everyone with a bit of sense to find out for themselves.

What was the population & demographics in Palestine at 1900. Any ideas ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)

As far as ignorance & racism, here's what our beloved Winston Churchill had to say about the region, or other colonial usurpations, during the run-up to the British Mandate...

I do not admit that the dog in the manger has the final right to the manger, even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit, for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to those people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race, or, at any rate, a more worldly-wise race, to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.

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[–] [deleted] 6 months ago

no such country as palestine. it's always been jewish land.

can't say i'm shocked that you throw the word "racist" around, typical boring tactics when you can't offer anything of substance.

if i was your parents i'd change my phone number.

embarrassing.

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[–] jriley555 (8534) 6 months ago

I certainly throw it at you, you ignorant racist fuckwad.

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[–] [deleted] 6 months ago

imagine getting this angry online!?!

you give off a very adam lanza like energy.

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[–] VladPutin (1582) 6 months ago

Littlemikey's mom gave him baths until he was 17. This is what accounts for his multiple issues.

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[–] Keelai (36078) 6 months ago

The Ancient Egyptian wrote about Palestine. You don't know history.

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[–] [deleted] 6 months ago

and you create your own.

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[–] Keelai (36078) 6 months ago

You're projecting! The entire Israeli settler-project is faux history.

Ben Mileikowsky pretends to be from the Middle East instead of Poland by changing his name to Netanyahu.

Europeans changing their names doesn't change the fact that they're Europeans stealing land. Again.

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[–] [deleted] 6 months ago

you've replied to me six times on different threads about different things with "you're projecting" every single time.

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[–] BillHicksFan (10709) 6 months ago

Put down your bible and crack pipe

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[–] [deleted] 6 months ago

you want a smack in the mouth you fag?

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[–] BillHicksFan (10709) 6 months ago

From a computer? You're really fucking dumb. Beyond the laughing-at dumb. No, you're a bitch who needs to be ignored. Oh, a new account.

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[–] [deleted] 6 months ago

send me some location details and i'll blind you, you coward.

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[–] B1cKsurN (17795) 6 months ago

They are controlled.... with random pallets of cash the Democrats give them every few years.

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[–] HarlemEagle42 (18410) 6 months ago

...or they're just incompetent. Can't even keep Hamas leaders safe. :P

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[–] Keelai (36078) 6 months ago

I wonder about Israel.

They've been saying they want peace for 40+ years while continuing to commit war crimes and international human right violations.. Sometimes I think they're controlled opposition, and this is all theater.

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[–] BillHicksFan (10709) 6 months ago

israel is a genocidal state..

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[–] SickSpazmoid (876) 6 months ago

It is just PR. These regimes need enemies, but don't want to get bogged down in real conflicts. At the moment likely they are negotiating with USA and Israel at what time and with that weapons to deliver "shocking retaliatory strike" to Israel.

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