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Disney admitted foray into politics, culture wars hurt its bottom line in SEC filing: Jonathan Turley


https://www.foxnews.com/media/disney-admitted-foray-politics-culture-wars-hurt-bottom-line-sec-filing-jonathan-turley


"You can bring movies to the public, but you cannot make them sell. Once an unassailable and uniting brand, Disney brand is now negatively associated with activism by a significant number of consumers. The company is now even reporting a decline in licensing revenue from products associated with Star Wars, Frozen, Toy Story and Mickey and Friends — iconic and once-unassailable corporate images," Turley wrote."

Too bad 20th Century FOX didn't own STAR WARS still when The FORCE AWAKENS was made?? Perhaps it would've turned out much different, like having all the heroes reunite in the 1st movie instead of killing them off because in the end, this is the sole reason WHY this movie made the amount of $$$$ it did and it wasn't because of the New Cast either

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Of course it does, everything woke always turns to shit sooner or later.

This is just another social/culture experiment with a timer on it.

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Is this the same Fox News that paid out almost a billion dollars for lying? Your stupidity and gullibility continues.

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Hey Asshole!! You wanna another link?? Here you go you liberal Gen Z asswipe.. Choke on it

https://www.newsmax.com/us/disney-woke-stock/2023/11/25/id/1143616/

https://twitchy.com/coucy/2023/11/27/turley-disney-n2390191

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The fact that you think those links are valid news sources just proves how stupid you really are. You are being lied to but you don't see it. I'm sure your whole family just laughs at you!🤣

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You are a fucking retard. No wonder your mom locked the basement door.

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I'm not the moron like you who believes these links are to reliable news sources. You're obviously not very bright. Besides, my mother is dead so I don't need to go to the basement anymore.

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Yes, they certainly are, and that is why providing them with links and sources is always futile.

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robocat893,

The article is just repeating what Jonathan Turley said. The lawsuit had nothing to do with him. And the article's title makes the claim that it does because Turley pointed to an SEC report where Disney itself openly admitted it. Are you saying that the SEC are liars or that Disney itself are liars about their own company?

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If this story is true then why isn't it being reported outside suspect right-wing sources?

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What do you mean "if this story is true"? It's just quoting an SEC report that quotes Disney itself. It's just pointing to undisputed facts. And in answer to your question, here's a Reuters article on the same topic:

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/disney-ceo-says-company-will-quiet-noise-culture-wars-analyst-2023-09-20/

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That article is from September. Show us a link to this so called story mentioned in the OP outside suspect right-wing sources.

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robocat893,

So the SEC is a suspect source? Is Disney itself a suspect source about it's own company? Why are you disputing an official government report? The Reuters article is about the same issue. It's about the Disney leadership admitting that its foray into the culture wars has hurt its business. Why are you so intent on denying this?

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I guess I just don't care. My point was that the OP posted a link to suspect Fox News and I challenged him to post a link to a reliable news source. When he replied you can clearly see the OP posted links to suspect news sources.

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Fox News merely quoted an official government report. How is that suspect? Why won't you admit whether you believe the SEC is suspect?

It sounds like you never even read the Fox News article before you claimed it was suspect.

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Whatever.. I'm not going to go around in circles with you.

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You're not going to go around in circles because in the end, you basically don't have a leg to stand on

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Wow! You really painted yourself into a corner!

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At the time, Iger was responding to an investor who said the company was becoming too concerned with social issues.


“Our primary mission needs to be to entertain ... and to have a positive impact on the world,” Iger said at the time. “I’m very serious about that. It should not be agenda-driven."


THAT IS ALL.

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Yeah, the investor was concerned about Disney's involvement in social issues because it's hurting Disney's income. The SEC report mentioned in the Fox News story said the same thing.

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Yeah, the investor was concerned about Disney's involvement in social issues because it's hurting Disney's income.


NO...AN INVESTER FEELS THAT DISNEY'S INVOLVEMNET IN SOCIAL ISSUES IS HURTING DISNEY'S INCOME.


DISNEY'S ANSWER DOES NOT CONFIRM THE INVESTER'S FEELINGS.


THIS ENTIRE THREAD IS AGENDA DRIVEN...AND WITH FALSE DETAILS TO BOOT.

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No, Iger's answer actually did confirm the investor's feelings. Iger said Disney will "quiet the noise" it's been making on cultural issues. What "false details" are you talking about?

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🤣HOW BIG EXACTLY IS YOUR ERECTION RIGHT NOW?...ENJOY YOUR OBSESSION.🍆


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I remember when the response of libs to complaints of wokeness was, "they want to make money, so they appeal to bigger audiences".

They dropped that one.

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"Quiet the noise" does not mean avoiding the cultural issues.

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"Quiet the noise" might actually mean avoiding cultural issues. If it doesn't mean avoiding them then it means reducing how much of their content deals with cultural issues, reducing how many of these issues they deal with or reducing how far they go in promoting these issues. Either way it's an admission that the status quo in dealing with cultural issues hurt Disney so it needs some sort of reduction in dealing with these issues.

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Unless they are referring to their own stated values being the noise, then no. It's way too vague to conveniently interpret it as "they say they're going to make less woke stuff". Just wishful thinking on some folk's part.

Same as "It shouldn't be agenda driven." isn't an admission that agenda driven movies are harming them.

This is just what you say to shareholders instead of "You're wrong. Get out." You dismiss their concerns by nominally agreeing with the broader principle.

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What you're saying doesn't make any sense. If Disney says they're going to quiet the noise on cultural issues and it's not referring to "woke stuff" as you call it then what the hell are they even talking about? You don't give an alternative answer. And your claim directly contradicts the Reuters article, which says that Disney "will 'quiet the noise' in a culture war that has pitted social conservatives against the global media and entertainment conglomerate". So Disney is clearly talking about "woke stuff" here. That's exactly what Reuters says.

And it's not just about Disney's own products but about its politics as well. The article goes on discuss Disney's conflict in Florida with Ron DeSantis over Florida's law restricting classroom discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity.

This thread started with discussion of a Fox News article about how Disney's social and political agenda has actually hurt the company and its shareholders. The article directly quotes from an SEC report where Disney admits that. So clearly Iger told Disney's investors that it will quiet the noise on cultural issues because the investors actually knew that the "woke stuff" had hurt Disney's income. Iger said that because the investors were right.

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Dumbass, investors don't operate on feelings. They operate on numbers. The investor doesn't "feel", he sees it with his eyes.

No, your response is agenda-driven.

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AWW...ARE WE GONNA DEBATE WHAT AN OPINION IS NOW?...HOW QUAINT.

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"What" an opinion is, no. How dumb yours is, maybe.

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FEELS IMPLIES BASED ON OPINION...SEES IMPLIES COLD HARD VISIBLE FACT...YOU ARE/WERE WRONG....NO REASON TO BE AN ASSHOLE AND NAME CALL THOUGH.

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You're a true dumbass, I don't know why I even engage you.

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YOU ENJOY PLAYING HARDASS AND NAME CALLING...PROBABLY MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF FOR A SHORT TIME.🤔

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I enjoy calling out dummies, hypocrites and morons for being dummies, hypocrites and morons.

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How much did CNN pay out to Nick Sandmann???

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It breaks my heart as I have grown up with Disney movies and hate what the company has become. Its time for a course correct across Disney and all subsidiary companies.

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1. Jonathan Turley isn't an investor nor associated with Disney. He clearly knows nothing about the Marvel, Star Wars or Indiana Jones fanbase.

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"Too bad 20th Century FOX didn't own STAR WARS still when The FORCE AWAKENS was made??"

What an ignorant comment! The sole owner of the Star Wars franchise since the 1970s was George Lucas who sold it to Disney.

Mr. Lucas was chased away by irate fans unhappy with the prequels.

Kathleen Kennedy is not a creative and was unaware of the creative process needed for the sequel trilogy although her series like Mandalorian and Andor were very successful. The new Star Wars Chief Creative Officer is Dave Filoni who will likely do a better creative job. BTW, most SW TV series have been very successful.

3. The main Disney problem was too many movie sequels and remakes being released instead of original content. They wanted easy money by rehashing their prior successes too death. Nobody wants to watch the umpteenth sequel of Indiana Jones. Disney already stated they will release fewer movies and concentrate on Disney+.

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The main Disney problem is focusing on pushing an insane agenda, rather than telling a compelling story.

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There was no agenda with Indiana Jones and it bombed at the box office. Ditto Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy. A compelling story isn't retelling it for the zillionth time.

Disney's main problem is focusing on a guaranteed profit, aka: rehash, instead of creativity, quality and originality. There's risk in the latter which is why they rehash. Disney's original business plan was to release a Star Wars movie every year like Marvel.

Barbie was extremely woke and was a huge box office hit. But, it was different and entertaining. Ditto, Prey. I watched the latter in Comanche!

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Idiot. Guardians 1 had a worldwide gross of $773,350,147. II made $863,756,051, III made $845,555,777.

I don't have any idea why the latest Indiana Jones tanked, the last one sucked so bad I wasn't going to fall for it again.

Disney's problem is recasting for diversity and other woke bullshit. Funny, it's only cultural appropriate when white people do it. Hypocrites.

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Disney's problem is recasting for diversity and other woke bullshit.


IT ALWAYS BOILS DOWN TO SKIN COLOR AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION WITH YOU GUYS....NO MATTER WHAT YOU WHINERS TRY AND SELL INSTEAD.

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Nice projection. Liberals/progressives/democrats make EVERYTHING about skin color and sexual orientation. Then when we point it out, you say well, what you said.

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I AM NOT A Liberals/progressives/democrats...FUCK THOSE GUYS...FUCK YOUR GUYS TOO...YOU ONLY TAKE SIDES IN A FIGHT...NONE OF THIS PETTY BULLSHIT SHOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT.

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Whining about race and sexual orientation makes you a lefty.

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OH GOOD...BECAUSE I DON'T WHINE...AND I GIVE NO FUCKS ABOUT RACE OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION...PEOPLE SHOULD JUST BE WHO THEY ARE.

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If your response to people complaining about woke shit movies is to accuse them of being about "Race", then you are a A. whiner and a b. lefty.


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Disney's problem is recasting for diversity and other woke bullshit.


THE COMMENT I ORIGINALLY ANSWERED...CLEARLY MAKES IT ABOUT RACE...NOT I...I AM SIMPLY JAMMING UP THE THREAD WITH MY AWESOME LOOKING COUNTER THOUGHTS TO THINGS I DEEM RIDICULOUS.

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Complaints about wokeness is not a complaint about "Race". It is a valid complaint.

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DIVERSITY AND OTHER WOKE BULLSHIT.


IT'S ABOUT RACE AND IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF VALID...IT IS HORSESHIT.

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And when people complain about it, that complaint is valid.


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NO...NO IT IS NOT...THEY NEED TO GET OVER THEIR PROJECTED PROBLEMS AND DEAL WITH WHATEVER IT IS THAT IS MAKING THEM SEE PEOPLE AS ANYTHING BUT PEOPLE.

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It's not about the people, it is about the pushing of a political message into entertainment content.


This is an important distinction. Even if you disagree with me on this, it is wrong of you to cry "racism' when my complaint is not racist at all.

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YOU ARE WRONG.


I NEVER CRIED RACISM.

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People have valid complaints about poltical shit being injected into their entertainment, and you said,


"it comes down to race".


That is dismissing their valid complaints with a snide implication of racism.


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HEY,MAN...THAT SHIT IS ALL LOWER CASE AND LAME...DON'T EVEN ASSOCIATE THAT WITH ME...ALSO...STATING THAT RACE IS AN ISSUE FOR SOME OF YOU IS NOT THE SAME AS CRYING RACISM...NOT AT ALL...YOU KNOW THIS THOUGH...WHY DO YOU INSIST ON BEING SO ANGRY AND CORROSIVE?

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Because being against the left filling our entertainment with political propaganda, even if some of that is racial political propaganda, is NOT it just being about race.


That is not me being "corrosive". That is me wanting my/our voices heard and dealt with seriously and honestly.


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THERE IS NO PROPAGANDA...YOU ARE CORROSIVE FOR DEEPER REASONS....I TRULY HOPE ONE DAY YOU WORK IT OUT.

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Dude. They BRAG about putting politics into the content. Denying it is kind of crazy.

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THE "THEY" YOU SPEAK OF ARE THE WEIRDO MILITANT FREAKY DEAKYS ON THE FAR FAR FAR EDGE OF THEIR "GROUP"...SIMILAR TO HOW YOU FIND YOURSELF ON THE FAR EDGE OF YOUR "GROUP"...THE REST OF US...THE REGULAR PEOPLE...LIVE IN THE MIDDLE.

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These people are in charge and setting policies and making the calls.

Your denial is irrelevant to events.

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LMAO...I DON'T NEED DENIAL...I HAVE YET TO SEE SOMETHING THAT CHAFES MY BALLS...LIKE...AT ALL...OBVIOUSLY YOU CHAFE FAIRLY EASILY.

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Big difference between you not caring and there not being anything there....

Big question is, why you feel a need to dis those that do care.

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THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THERE...JUST SOME LOUD MORONS ON BOTH SIDES...AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIVING UP IN THAT MIDDLE.

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Yet, the ceo of disney is admitting it. He is not a fringe. He is The Man, in charge and setting policy and making the calls that effect thousands of people's lives and our culture as a whole.

Your denial is strange.

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YOU MISREAD THOSE QUOTES.

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How so?

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BY MISREADING THEM.🤔

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You are, whether you'll admit it or not.

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INCORRECT...GOOD USE OF ASSUMPTION THOUGH.

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Not an assumption. I'm judging you by your words.

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JUDGING BASED ON FRAGMENTED MOSTLY ANONYMOUS COMMENTS...YUP...THAT WOLD BE ASSUMPTION.🙂

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ARE YOU A MAN OR WOMAN AND WHAT IS THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN!? I NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT ON WHETHER I BLOCK YOU OR NOT.
-Said the other side

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Everything woke turns to shit, truer words were never spoken. That's exactly what is happening. The liberal fucktards can do all sorts of mental gymnastics to convince themselves it isn't but anyone with a modicum of common sense can see it. It ain't sexism, misogyny, bigotry or whatever other bullshit excuse they try to use to blame others for their failure. Which is part and parcel of the whole woke ideology, no accountability. People are tired of woke bullshit, plain and simple. They're tired of being preached to by idiotic hypocrites and the box office numbers show it.

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Barbie famously tanked

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Disney messaged their shareholders this week informing them that they hold their Woke Agenda higher in importance than company profits.

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I do think some "woke" programming has added a new brand of entertainment to the scene. We are seeing some pretty good woke shows and movies. Sure, some of them can annoying, especially when it's blatantly obvious that they're just injecting politics into entertainment for the sake of virtue signalling.

However, Disney has taken a very progressive approach to their lineup of shows and apparently they're starting to find out that people just don't want to watch it. At the very least not on something that's considered a children's network.

You gotta consider that it's mostly breeders that have kids, and they're probably not into gay stuff and Disney is now gay. Not that there's anything wrong with being gay but yeah, they're gay.

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This guy (BKB) specializes in fake news--Fox News, Newsmax and Twitchy, LOLOL!

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And you specialize in CNN who's also been sued as well, so now what?? Where do you get your news from?? Well?? When it doesn't fit your Narrative Lib, all of a sudden, it's fake news, so fuck off with your Gen Z liberal rhetoric and go watch WWE

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Is this what you're yelling about?:

"July 29 (Reuters) - A federal judge has thrown out Donald Trump's $475 million defamation lawsuit against CNN, in which the former president claimed the network's description of his election fraud as the "big lie" associated him with Adolf Hitler.
In a ruling late on Friday night, U.S. Judge Raag Singhal, who was nominated by Trump in 2019, said CNN's words were opinion, not fact, and therefore could not be the subject of a defamation claim."

As I said, LOLOL!


Furthermore, CNN never had to pay anyone a PENNY, much less 78,000,000 pennies! LOL! They report, we decide!
But in answer to your question, I get my news from a wide variety of sources--NY Times, WP, Newsweek, Daily Kos, Huffpost, the major TV networks, local radio and newspapers, people I talk to in other parts of the country (always fun to hear about Keri Fake from my relative in AZ), I even watched Fox News occasionally until their lying just got too much to stomach. Now I just read Fox comment sections to keep up with their latest deranged fixations (I love how Kamala gets under their skin and makes them go full troglodyte misogynist!)

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Based on stats from earlier this year, more libs watched FOX than CNN/MSNBC. Apparently, you were among them.

I even watched Fox News occasionally until their lying just got too much to stomach.

Yeah, too much truth for you to stomach, lmao.

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Maybe for that debate that was only on Fox. If you're talking about regular programing, please send me the link showing that more liberals watch Fox than CNN/MSNBC.

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Or you can just run away and hide.

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