In the utopian universe of Star Trek, Captain Picard always had a perfect solution to resolving a very difficult situation.
How so you believe he would handle this one?
(After all, this is a movie/TV website. Perhaps some good ideas can be found there).
I couldn't find a link to this meme so I wrote it out for you here:
'Dude I'm so excited to live through a time when AI means nobody wants to pay for most jobs but we still think you need to work to be allowed to eat and have a place to live. It's going to be just like Star Trek (the part before the show starts when everything fucking sucks)'
Jean-Luc Picard would probably throw up his hands and say "fuck this time period can't get shit done."
Picard would never give up.
shareI have no idea. I'm not a Trekkie.
shareBasically, a win win solution in which both sides would be left satisfied. Diplomatic, humaine, logical and peaceful solution between Palestinians and Israelis. Picard faced many similar conundrums on the show.
sharei am no Trekkie but i think he would not say "where both sides would be left satisfied". Some deux ex machina where both sides issue are easily solved due to some convenient plot point or a misunderstanding is lazy writing. i think it would be the opposite and about how the best solutions are "one where both sides are left not fully satisfied, but both give something up and make sacrifices for the better because the alternative is worse".
share "one where both sides are left not fully satisfied, but both give something up and make sacrifices for the better because the alternative is worse"
I can hear Picard saying those words to both leaders in his Shakespearean voice.
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shareI bet that's a reaction from Lwaxana Troi's flirtations.
shareJust beam all the different middle eastern ethnic groups to different planets. Each ethnic group gets their own planet.
shareInteresting. An almost King Solomon solution in which neither Palestinians nor Israelis get to live in the disputed area.
More realistically, each group forms a country elsewhere on Earth preferably very far from each other.
That sounds like a classic Picard idea. Bravo!
Keelai,
Really?! You ask how Captain Picard would solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? You said yourself that Picard operated in the utopian universe of Star Trek, where every problem in the galaxy could be easily solved within 60 minutes. 'Utopian' is the key word here. We don't live in a utopian world. The easy solutions of Star Trek don't apply to the real world. This thread is the quintessential essence of everything wrong with your politics. It shows just how utterly dumb your attitude on politics really is.
Obviously, you never watch Trek nor understand diplomacy.
shareYour response is a completely idiotic non sequitur. I actually watch Star Trek: The Next Genaration all the time. You said yourself that Star Trek takes place in a utopian universe. The diplomacy used in a utopian universe doesn't apply to the real world. Someone who discusses politics all the time should understand that. Star Trek has no relevance to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Do you have anything actually intelligent to say?
Of course, it does!
Most of the technology and social changes in classic Star Trek became reality.
If you don't have an idea about how Picard would handle the situation, I suggest you troll elsewhere.
Here is a simple solution:
Picard travels back to the past, grabs Kirk, brings him to the present, Picard steps down in order to allow the real Captain to fix things.
LOL! I avoided naming Kirk because he was prone to violence and breaking the Prime Directive. He would've also spent half his time sexually harassing a woman.
shareAnd yet, he is still the best solution.
shareMeh! Kirk would've armed the Palestinians because they're militarily underdogs and the Klingons would've backed the Israelis in a balanced proxy war. They already had a similar episode.
The Orville (Star Trek knock-off) had an Israel vs Palestine episode called Cupid's Dagger. Two sides are fighting for control over a planet they live on with a debate about who ere the original inhabitants.
Keelai,
The worst part about this is you don't even realize how stupid you're making yourself sound.
No, Star Trek doesn't apply because as, you said yourself, the universe of Star Trek is a utopia and the real world is not a utopia. Do you actually understand what the word 'utopia' means? Most of the technology and social changes from Star Trek have NOT become reality. I don't know what the hell you're smoking to make you think that.
I know how Picard would handle the Israeli-Palestinian conflict but it's not actually applicable because no one in the real world has a galaxy class starship to force their will on anyone.
Please, just say something intelligent. Anything at all.
You never watched Trek.
shareI already told you that I watch Star Trek: The Next Generation all the time. Learn how to read.
shareObviously, you didn't since you don't understand the series' concept.
shareSo does that mean that I'm lying about watching TNG all the time or that I just imagine that I watch it all the time? What makes you think that I don't understand the show's "concept"? What did I actually say to make you think that? Please tell me.
shareWhat's the show's concept?
shareThe Enterprise travels around the galaxy exploring new worlds, engaging in diplomacy and doing scientific research. They're guided by the prime directive, which is to refrain from interfering with the natural development of other worlds.
Explaining Star Trek's concept to you still does nothing to take away from my point that how Picard would handle the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is completely irrelevant because Star Trek takes place in a utopian universe and the real world that we live in is not a utopia.
Nope. You're wrong, again. You don't watch the show. You keep making the same mistake that a non-viewer would make.
shareWhy should I believe your claim that I'm wrong about the show's concept if you don't even try to explain how I'm wrong? Perhaps it's you that doesn't actually watch TNG.
And my point still stands that how Picard would handle the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is completely irrelevant because Star Trek takes place in a utopian universe and the real world that we live in is not a utopia.
It is relevant if you understood the Trek concept.
What do you believe was utopian about the Iotians or Ekosians?
*YOU'RE* the one who said that Star Trek exists in a utopian universe. You said that in the OP. And because of that utopianism, Star Trek has no practical relevance to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. How the hell do you think that your secretive, alleged "concept" of Star Trek applies to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
shareYou don't watch the show.
shareNo, YOU don't watch the show. That's why you can't actually explain the show's concept to me.
Even if you could prove that you watched the show it still wouldn't prove the relevance of a sci-fi show in a utopian universe to the real geopolitical problems in our world.
Fictional Characters only do what their writers tell them. Is this a serious post?
shareYou never watched Trek nor do you understand science-fiction.
The best sci-fi is about the human condition like "1984", Fahrenheit 451" and "Star Trek" which had many episodes that were social commentary about current issues.
One ST:TNG episode was about IRA terrorism which correctly predicted the resolution of violence. An episode of The Orville (a ST-like series) had an episode about the Palestinian vs Israel conflict. Their solution was commonly used when monarchs ruled.
These "fictional" diplomats often solved real-world issues. Captain Picard was the best at solving difficult conundrums in a fair and non-violent way.