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The fox lawsuit.....


Can anyone tell me exactly what was said and who said it, that warranted the fox lawsuit?

Someone told me that nothing was said specifically, but fox gave off the impression that the election was stolen and that was all it took.

You would think fox would have reporters on all day claiming the election was rigged. But no one can find one video clip of any reporter making such a claim that would warrant such a law suit.

Making the Democrats look even more guilty is their response to the claim that Bidens win was stolen.

They sue and cancel anyone who says it.

Democrats for 3 years held high court investigations into russian collusion and reporters all day said trump was not their president.

Then the moment anyone questions the election like the Democrats did, its deemed completely unacceptable

Democrats are almost to the level of punishing people for just thinking it.

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That settlement lawsuit was basically an "internal payoff" with certain conditions including muzzling their most popular host.

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If you don't read the news organizations that really matter you would never learn that Fox was espousing all sorts of stolen election rumors and "conjectures," specifically that Dominion voting systems were tampered with by the Chinese or Martians or SOMEBODY! You think they would pay out $700000000 if they had even half a leg to stand on? Wake up!

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Democrats' "Stolen" Election Claims

https://youtu.be/uoMfIkz7v6s

And these are the people who call you an "election denier" for questioning the 2020 Election.

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Hillary is at it again with her delusional fabrications; she is claiming that meddling Russia will ensure a Trump victory in 2024.

https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsaki/status/1705985122124587435?s=20

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haha of course! they are already starting the rhetoric of the election being stolen....

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It is part of their preemptive tactics.

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yup, laying the ground work just in case Trump wins. they did the same thing in 2020. but of course not one democrat can remember the past. lol

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It is called a “Bait & Switch Scam.”

The settlement allows the "establishment-controlled mainstream media" to falsely claim that “the case is settled and closed and that the election was not rigged and stolen."

You have just proven that you fell for it, lol.

Btw, you should search the video where Governor Brian Kemp admits to a Republican voter:

"If you give anybody a voting machine, they can hack it."

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You got me! I admit it, I fell for the same scam that Fox, with all their high-priced and well-connected lawyers, fell for and even paid $700,000 because they knew they would win in court?

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lol, you are completely clueless about everything I stated.

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You believe the election was stolen because you've been fed a load of crap from a sore loser and lying sources like Fox. Your guy lost. Deal with it.

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Democrats' "Stolen" Election Claims

https://youtu.be/uoMfIkz7v6s

And these are the people who call you an "election denier" for questioning the 2020 Election.

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the difference is if you ask those people now , they will admit 2016 was not fixed
No magat will ever say same of 2020 , because Trump says so

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I havent heard democrats say that. can you find video evidence?

hillary is already spreading lies about the 2024 election being stolen...

Hillary Clinton questions the integrity of 2024 election by already claiming 'right-wing extremists have a plan to STEAL it' - but offers ZERO evidence in fundraising video (and after she said questioning Biden's win was 'doing Putin's work)

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Lets do a quick check.

Any democrat voters here on moviechat think that 2016 was fixed ? shout up!


Also , democrat claims of stolen are using the word stolen as "surprise victory" or at worst "russian facebook adverts" , not out and out cheating by rigging dominiom systems and midnight ballot ninjas and all that crazy shit.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/10/10/2016-election-fact-check-democrats-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/69548196007/

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dems still think that Russia hacked the election by rigging the voting machines...

Trump "knows he’s an illegitimate president," Clinton said. "I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did … I know he knows this wasn’t on the level."

In an October 2020 interview with The Atlantic, Clinton said, "There was a widespread understanding that [the 2016] election was not on the level. We still don’t know what happened … but you don’t win by 3 million votes and have all this other shenanigans and stuff going on and not come away with an idea like, ‘Whoa, something’s not right here.’"

“It felt like tampering, or some kind of cyberattack,” Ms. Greenhalgh said about the voting troubles in Durham.

Jimmy Carter, the former Democratic president, said, "There’s no doubt that the Russians did interfere in the election, and I think the interference, although not yet quantified, if fully investigated would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf."

John Lewis, D-Ga., said in January 2017 he would not attend Trump’s inauguration. "I do not see this president-elect as a legitimate president," he told NBC. "I think there was a conspiracy on the part of the Russians and others that helped him get elected.

He was legally elected," Nadler said. "But the Russians weighing in on the election, the Russian attempt to hack the election and, frankly, the FBI’s weighing in on the election make his election illegitimate. But he is the president."

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Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., was among seven House Democrats who raised futile objections to the Electoral College count by Congress in January 2017 that certified Trump’s victory. They tried to argue that the election was tainted by Russian interference and voter suppression.

Youngkin’s office also sent us an April 2022 Rasmussen poll. It showed that 72% of Democrats believe it’s likely the 2016 election outcome was changed by Russian interference

A senior Democratic lawmaker said Sunday he had “no doubt” that Russia was behind recent hacking attempts targeting state election systems, and urged the Obama administration to publicly blame Moscow for trying to undermine confidence in the Nov. 8 presidential contest.

Even if Russia fails in its attempts to hack the election, the doubt it raises can still bring them a strategic victory.

About Half of Americans Think Russia Interfered With Election Through Hacking, Poll Finds

https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1064259048902668289?s=20

67 percent of Democrats believe it is "definitely true" or "probably true" that "Russia tampered with vote tallies in order to get Donald Trump elected." There is no evidence of Russia tampering with vote tallies.

Democrats' "Stolen" Election Claims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoMfIkz7v6s

2016 Presidential Election
Joe Biden, 2019: “I absolutely” agree that Trump is an “illegitimate president.”
Hillary Clinton, 2019: The election was “stolen.”
Jimmy Carter, 2019: “Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election and was put into office because the Russians interference on his behalf.”
Kamala Harris, 2019: “Absolutely right” that Trump “didn’t really win.”
Karine Jean-Pierre, 2016: It was a “stolen election.”
Jerry Nadler, 2017: It was a “tainted” and “illegitimate” election.

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Nancy says elections cant be stolen:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/19/nancy-pelosi-claims-rigged-election-beyond-pale/

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday said Donald Trump is “not going to the president of the United States” and that claims of a rigged election are highly irresponsible.

Mr. Trump, the GOP presidential nominee, has increasingly warned to followers to watch out for shenanigans at the polls, though his own campaign manager told MSNBC on Wednesday she doesn’t expect there to be widespread voter fraud this cycle.

Obama says election cant be hacked:

https://youtu.be/cruh2p_Wh_4

There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved. There's no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances that will happen this time" - President Obama

CNN says elections cant be hacked:

No, the presidential election can’t be hacked

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/election-day-russia-hacking-explained/index.html

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October 18, 2016 | Obama to Trump: "Stop Whining," "No Serious Person" Believes U.S. Elections Can Be Rigged Or Stolen
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/07/14/obama_trump_stop_whining_elections_rigged_or_stolen.html

In a press conference a few weeks before the 2016 election, President Barack Obama told Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump to "stop whining" about the possibility that the election could be "rigged," saying that there is no evidence that election rigging has ever happened or could ever happen.

Nancy says the 2016 election was hijacked:


Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
Our election was hijacked. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracy & #FollowTheFacts.
11:44 AM · May 16, 2017

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That Obama thing is the most sensible quote I've seen on this site.


Nancy P tweeted some shit in 2017 . big wup . means nothing if she's not still yelling it from the rooftops everyday - like Trump is.

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Obama was right, Trump won fair and square and the Mueller report proved it.

Nancy whined about losing for 4 years.

2016 Presidential Election
Joe Biden, 2019: “I absolutely” agree that Trump is an “illegitimate president.”
Hillary Clinton, 2019: The election was “stolen.”
Jimmy Carter, 2019: “Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election and was put into office because the Russians interference on his behalf.”
Kamala Harris, 2019: “Absolutely right” that Trump “didn’t really win.”
Karine Jean-Pierre, 2016: It was a “stolen election.”
Jerry Nadler, 2017: It was a “tainted” and “illegitimate” election.

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this is a great summary of how different the two cases are
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/oct/05/glenn-youngkin/did-democrats-suggest-2016-presidential-election-w/

- Many prominent Democrats say Donald Trump's win in the 2016 presidential election was tainted. But their complaints don't align with Republican claims that the 2020 election, won by Joe Biden, was stolen.

- Democratic complaints in 2016 focused on events that happened during the campaign: Russian hacking to help Trump and a late October announcement that the FBI had reopened an investigation of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

- Republican complaints in 2020 centered on disproven claims that Biden won because of a fraudulent vote count.

- Democrats in 2016 conceded that Trump was legally elected. Many Republicans, including Trump, still contest Biden's victory in 2020.

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point 1: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said President Donald Trump would “lie, cheat and steal to win this election” on Wednesday’s broadcast of ABC’s “The View.”
Democratic U.S. presidential nominee Joe Biden said on Saturday "the only way" he could lose to President Donald Trump was through "chicanery," before clarifying that he will accept the election result.
Hillary Clinton said in a new interview that Joe Biden should not concede the 2020 presidential election “under any circumstances," anticipating issues that could prolong knowing the final outcome.

point 2: the Mueller report proved that Russia did not hack the election. also dont forget that Obama was president in 2016, he was in charge of the FBI.

point 3: there was no Federal investigation of the 2020 election even though Nancy said that Trump would steal the election and Joe said he would lose by chicanery and Hillary said not to concede under any circumstances.

point 4: they did not, they said he was an illegitimate President and concocted the steele dossier which turned out to be fake. Hillary and the DNC were fined by the SEC for lying about the origins.

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Trump knew since early 2018 that the Dems/DS were going to rig/steal the 2020 election, which is why he prepared for it by creating two EOs and a DoD platform along with an Independent source to monitor/capture them with their hands in the cookie jar since before Nov-3rd.

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Jowilli is a few bricks shy of a load. I've seen him/her post the same exact post up to ten times, in the same thread!

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I am a dude! I post the same thing because you guys keep forgetting it.

did you forget all the lies from 2016 and 2020 already? lol

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Can you provide some examples of these lies.?

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fox paid $700m
what more do you need to know?

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I want someone to write down what exactly was said and who said it that warranted the lawsuit

Saying fox paid 700m isn't an answer.

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i guess you'll have to keep googling.
I couldnt find any , but i found this
"judge Eric M. Davis ruled that none of the disputed statements Fox News made about Dominion were true"

so there a specific list of specific incidents

Dominion focused on allegations made between November 2020 and January 2021 by hosts Maria Bartiromo, Tucker Carlson, Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity, and Jeanine Pirro. Guests who often appeared with these hosts included Trump attorneys Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, both of whom have also been sued individually by Dominion in federal court.[a] During pre-trial discovery, Fox News' internal communications were released, indicating that prominent hosts and top executives were aware the network was reporting false statements but continued doing so to retain viewers for financial reasons.

In a summary judgment on March 31, 2023, Delaware Superior Court judge Eric M. Davis ruled that none of the disputed statements Fox News made about Dominion were true and ordered a trial to determine if the network had acted with actual malice. Several prominent Fox News personalities and senior executives were expected to testify at trial.


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Right after the election fox news reporters kept reading this generic statement.

We at fox news believe the elections were fair and blah blah blah.

News max did the same

It was sketchy in a way.
Some powerful people wanted zero questions about Bidens win.

They even went so far as to make these companies read that statement.

Democrats make themselves look so guilty.

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"Democrats make themselves look so guilty.”

Precisely; that is why it was a ‘bait and switch scam’ to get everyone on board with the false claim that the election was not rigged or stolen since the lawsuit was “settled and closed.”......a clever and devious tactic but obvious and transparent.

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Democrats and the media for 3 years cried Russian collusion

The moment Biden won, they acted like questioning the election was the worst thing ever.

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And that right there is confirmation of their guilt.

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I would think with such a large lawsuit there would be at least 1 clear YouTube video of a fox news reporter saying something so outrageous its labeled defamation.

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It proves there are shenanigans with the machines. The case was so flimsy, I could understand them pushing their case against other people who made concrete claims but even then they weren't willing to allow certain types of discovery. But fox "controlled op" didnt make those claims and even had all their hosts besides Carlson keep repeating the fairest cleanest election in all time bullshit. So it was basically a way for the establishment to launder money to the devices that help them control the outcome of elections with more certainty.

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LOL.

Carlson doesn't even believe the election was stolen. His text messages showed he just didn't want to do anything on his show that would cause the rubes who watch Fox to stop.

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You must not have watched much Fox Noise Channel, especially their commentary, err, "entertainment" shows.

There's a reason they settled for nearly a billion dollars. One example of the evidence against them, texts from Tucker Carlson showing him admitting that the stolen election conspiracy theories were nonsense and that he despised Trump.

None of that matters to most of the right, though. Now they have conspiracy theories that claim Fox is part of the steal, and the lawsuit was all part of a cover up.



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He got in trouble for saying he thought the election claims of being stolen were nonsense?

Isn't that what the left wants?

If he said that the election was 100% stolen, that would be what the lawsuit was about

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Are you serious?

That's what he was telling other Fox employees, in texts. He was saying something very different on his show.

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It's exhausting arguing with flat earthers.

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And that is lawsuit worthy?

I thought it was a defamation case?

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For fuck sake. Carlson was claiming there was evidence the election was rigged and doing segments on his show that told people that.

Privately he told people the election wasn't stolen and that he despised Trump, but Fox shouldn't do stories from that angle because their viewers would revolt.

The evidence did not exist and Tucker knew it. Yes, that's defamation.

And that was just an example, by the way. It wasn't like Carlson's show was the only one.

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And video evidence? Like from his show...I want to hear what was so bad?

For 3 years the Democrats pushed Russian collusion.
So if a reporter said trump is not a real president, but tells his friend's on the side that he thinks Russia could not interfere the election.
Those are grounds for a lawsuit?

All I kept hearing on fox was, we at fox think the election was free and clear...they kept reading this blank statement which was making them look more sketchy.

A lot of tv and radio personalities are going to have trouble if they do a show and believe something different then they are presenting.
Happens all the time

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What Tucker may or may not have told other employees is irrelevant.

What was important and relevant was that he told the audience of his show "the truth" and that is why the settlement came with stipulating "conditions" that included muzzling Tucker.

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Insanity.

Yes, the fact that Tucker told other employees at Fox that he actually didn't think it was true that the election was stolen but they should essentially tell their viewers what they wanted to hear or they'd stop watching is relevant.

Good fucking lord in heaven.

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Regardless whether it was what they wanted to hear or not, he still spoke "the truth"...and he still stands by it.

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