I don't think the election was stolen and I don't care for the violence they did at the Cap.
My hat is off to them though for having the courage, the guts, to come together and to protest to fight for what they thought was right.
If this had been liberals instead, they just bend over and take it up the pooper and then sit at home and whine and cry.
Not Trumpers.
They took action and for the peaceful, non violent action the ones took that day, they deserve kudos.
I get that but the only time Libs protest and burn, loot and murder is when a black is killed by a cop and not when the election might have been stolen from them.
You seem to be conveniently neglecting to mention all of the times that Liberals HAVE peacefully protested for the multitudes of issues that were NOT related to black people....which incidentally DID include protesting when trump stole the 2016 election with the help of russia.
Coming from someone who obviously can't see what is "self evident" about donald trump, you'll have too excuse me if I don't accept your conclusions about such things. ; )
Then it turned out that the Dems, such as Hillary, lied that Trump colluded with Russia.
Interesting that the liberal corporate MSM buried and forgot about that story where if it had been Trump who fabricated such a lie, they would still be talking about it today.
Now to be clear, they may have influenced the election in other ways.
But it was never found that Trump knowingly or willingly was in on it.
And another country might have manipulated our election?
You mean just like we do all the time with interfering in other elections or even starting deadly coups and wars to put in our puppets?
Oh well.
Payback is a bitch, isn't it?
Except for the facts that trump has proven time and time again that he is OBVIOUSLY on putins'/russias' side, and MANY media sources (all except right wing media that is) have CONTINUED to provide example after example after example that is the case.
Given how right-wing media purposely neglects to mention these facts to its viewers though, it is of course ENTIRELY understandable why you would STILL not be aware of those facts. Sad.
Isn't it better to get along with enemies instead of fighting them?
A quote attributed to Lincoln goes, The best way to defeat an enemy is to make them your friend.
Please provide your proof that trump "getting along with" putin resulted in any positives, especially since putin STILL did a lot of negative things despite the false public perception of "friendliness" they were obviously trying to craft.
Why do you want enemies?
What about that is giving you such a hard on?
If Trump becomes president again and somehow can end the Ukraine war if it is still going on, (Hopefully it won't be.) and takes us away from the brink of WWIII, you should be for that.
A) - Not surprised that you purposely ignored the request for proof.
And B) - You are providing (wittingly or unwittingly) and example of a person (like putin and trump) who present the idea of being a friend when in fact your actions obviously prove that you have no intention of actually behaving like one.
So like trump and putin, you can kindly take your gaslighting that isn't fooling anyone elsewhere. ; )
but the only time Libs protest and burn, loot and murder
how many times?
how in the hell is BLM rioting a democrat party manifesto item?
It is nothing to do with democrats
Jan 6th however was completely and totally a republican party action under direct orders of the president.
or " stupid lies by a sore loser," as xcanthas succinctly put it.
Never mind all that "lets march down there peacefully " shit , he knew what he was doing . He saw what occured , and cheered it on from his bunker in a deranged attempt to illegally stay in power ,
rather than get on the mic and say
"Hey folks, this has gone a bit far"
We hear others give fighting words all the time.
For some reason when it is Trump that says it, he is the one that is guilty.
He did say, "March down to the capitol," but he did not say, "And when you get there break through the police barricades and smash windows and go on in!"
The difference is that Trump is giving his fighting words to a bunch of lawless maniacs who he knows will act on them. In fact, he has said he would pay legal costs for people who act with violence against those he is inviting against.
No. He hates Trump because he sucks. He hated him in the 90's when he lived in NYC. He's always been a piece of shit.
I remember Trump in the 80's. His name was associated with luxury but the way he flaunted his wealth in such a gauche manner, with no sense of subtlety or style, was cringeworthy and everyone knew the was a charlatan.
It actually turns out the election was stolen as the left used the FBI to censor news that would make them look bad and if the polls are right it would have changed the outcome had the laptop story not been illegally censored. As we now know from the footage that the left hid from us for 2 years very few of the protesters were acting inappropriately and the Capitol police actually let many of them in and gave them a tour of the capitol. The left has politicized J6 for over 2 years and its disgusting, their outrage over it is illegitimate, if it had been a mob of BLM thugs torching courthouses and killing cops they would portray them as victims.
I voted for Trump because he was anti-establishment. Because I'm tired of politicians' lies, on both sides.
You voted for Biden based on the lies the media told you, that you weren't smart enough to question. You voted to perpetuate the corrupt establishment.
Actually it wasn’t, the election was stolen because the DemoKKKrats used the FBI to illegally censor the laptop story.
Also you just asserted Trump knew it was a lie (which it wasn’t), care to elaborate on that and back up your claim that he didn’t believe what he was saying? It’s also pretty meaningless to bitch about anyone “denying an election” after your death cult made up conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory about the 2016 election for four straight years. Your entire cult are “election deniers”
Get over it
He lost and knew it, and the only way to stay relevant was to claim the election was stolen and knuckleheads like you still fall for the grift
You can take your Trump Won banner off your front porch now
It was a stolen election and you know it. Do you seriously expect people to just “get over it” when our democracy is overthrown? I thought you people loved democracy? Also that’s comically ironic coming from the cult who never got over the 2016 election which was a fair election despite the left doing everything they could to overthrow it including sending death threats to electors.
Your cult sent death threats to electors and they rioted in major cities. They were trying to overthrow democracy all based on your cults lies and misinformation.
you are by far the most delusional brainwashed trumptwat on here .
and there's some pretty stiff competition ,
but you take the cake hands down
congrats.
The left in this country are domestic terrorists, they killed over 20 people, injured thousands and cost billions of dollars in damage and Diaper Joe and his slut of a VP encouraged it. They both belong in prison along with the likes of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, AOC, etc. And it didn’t even end there, they then ordered a hit on Justice Kavanaugh due to the Roe overturn. The left is violent and a bunch of Anti-American traitors.
There you go again, ignoring political violence which apparently you love as long as it’s your cult doing the violence. If a MAGA Republican parked in a handicap spot you’d probably be calling for Trump to be impeached a 3rd time.
I accept your concession. Maybe you should try pulling your head out of your ass and listening to something other than far left fake news, you might enlighten yourself.
What exactly did he lie about? Also his opinion of Trump as a person is irrelevant. You can not like someone personally but like their policies (and the inverse). The lie came from the far left who claimed that J6 was some kind of coup with the intention of overthrowing the government but as we now know from the footage that the witch hunt committee hid from us for 2 years that wasn't the case.
Let's take a look at conservative claims:
- The election was stolen --> Turned out to be true, the FBI censored the Hunter Biden laptop story and polls say Diaper Joe would have lost 16% of his votes had they known about it, there you go Diaper Joe loses
- J6 wasn't an "insurrection" --> Based on the video evidence that the DemoKKKrats purposely kept hidden from us that now appears to be the case.
I'm confused what you claim the right is lying about, so far the lies are all coming from the left as usual.
Care to answer my question? Is the footage lying? How does Tucker's commentary change the footage? I just watched the video on mute and the visuals speak from themselves and tell the same story Tucker was telling.
Show me the clip of him lying and corroborating proof that proves it was a lie (as in he knew at the time it wasn’t true). BTW: Commentary from far left news sources isn’t proof. I’ve noticed you’ve been very unreliable when asked to provide proof of your assertions.
EDIT: Also if it has anything to do with the 2020 election being stolen don’t bother because it’s now objectively proven that it was stolen. I also don’t seem to recall him ever saying it was stolen until we found out about the FBI violating the first amendment by censoring the laptop story. He did report however on very suspicious activity by the far left DemoKKKrats that suggested they were up to something.
EDIT 2: Even if you somehow prove Tucker lied it still wouldn’t matter, the video footage that the far left hid from us for 2 years says it all, just because it aired on Tucker’s program is irrelevant. Just because someone lied doesn’t mean a video that they show is somehow can’t be trusted when they didn’t even make the video.
Diaper Joe and KKKamala weren’t, they were actively encouraging Burn, Loot and Murder to Burn, Loot and Murder. Why aren’t you calling for their impeachments?
If it was the left....no one would have been arrested, the media would have run cover for antifa, and the story would have been memory holed by President's Day.
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Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people.
I am all about the truth. OK?
I put that above any bias from any side.
I keep on seeing these claims of the FBI infiltrating and encouraging the Jan 6th crowds.
If there is proof of that, show me.
Until I see that I will just take it as a crackpot, bogus excuse since Trumpers will not accept it was their own that attacked and assaulted police.
Same thing to claim it was BLM/Antifa that did this.
First of all, they are not going to give any money to Trump and buy a bunch of his flags and banners.
Second, even if any of them were doing anything, what exactly did they do?
Suppose for the sake of debate there may have been a few Antifa/BLM in there.
One cannot say that they instigated any violent act unless they can prove it was them and not Trumpers.
I would put up money to say that all or most of the violent acts was done by 100% Trumpers which is what I am going with until I see otherwise.
"What part do you not understand that some of the undercover agents and members of Antifa wore Maga hats and clothing to impersonate trump protesters?!"
Just because any of them did that does not mean they were smashing windows, assaulting cops etc.
"There is 96-page DC police report that shows the Govt knew Maga was coming on the 6th and entrapped them."
Where and why would they have released that confession to the public?
Why in the F would LA lead assaults against their brothers in blue?
"There were a total of three tiers that incited and lead them into the capitol. The entire fiasco was a complete and total setup."
Where are you getting this from?
"You have already dismissed the videos and pictures that exposed the Democrats and RINOs that collaborated, lied and covered it up."
The videos are not showing anything.
Wow! White busses!
Some people under a tree! Whoa! Call the papers!
A dude putting on stars and stripes stuff in his driveway! That is such a smoking gun!
I did not see one goddamn thing in any of those vids. showing anyone guilty of anything.
As for the pics, I cannot see them on this computer, don't ask, and may check them out later but will expect the same BS as the vids which show nothing.
"In a nutshell, J6 was “the cover-up” for the stolen/rigged 2020 election."
Ah. That explains it all. You are a crackpot who cannot accept reality.
And you are brainwashed by the left-wing fake news media.
I was not just referring to the above pictures and videos, but the ones shown by Tucker that you have also denied and dismissed.
Your entire statement above is clear indication of denial when the truth is exposed.
The very same denial perpetrated by the Democrats and RINOs responsible for their lying, framing, and cover-up of J6.
I am all about the truth. OK?
LOL, bullshit, you just proved that you don’t give a shit about the truth and I was right about your hypocrisy and playing both sides.
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"I was not just referring to the above pictures and videos, but the ones shown by Tucker that you have also denied and dismissed."
Which pics or vids shown by Tucker?
If you mean the recent ones showing quiet and calm moments, I agree with those that not everything was chaos and that those who were just walking around should not be doing any jail time.
I actually think the jail sentences were too long and that a bunch of them should be pardoned.
If you mean other pics and vids from TC, I would not know what they are since I don't remember seeing them or prob. did not.
Which ones did he show that you claim I am dismissing?
I am willing to give you a chance to try and find common ground but I guess you are not interested in that even though I give kudos to the chutzpa the Trumpers displayed at showing up to the Cap. to protest while when libs think the elections are stolen from them, they don't do that.
If you want to keep on disagreeing and making up false stuff about me, you just go on right ahead since there is nothing I can do about that.
The Bernie stuff I have heard before from a Michael Moore doc. movie and have no doubts the Dummycraps blocked him from running, which was wrong.
I would like to think he would be better than Biden though his recent comments about supporting Ukraine turns me off of him.
I am still not convinced the 2020 election was stolen from Trump.
There were Repub. election officials who oversaw the count and not one court took it up.
Even those with Trump appointed judges which includes the SCOTUS which he stacked for the occasion.
As for FBI infiltrating the J6 mob, I am sorta starting to think that maybe it is true, though I doubt they could be responsible for ALL the violence that took place that day.
Maybe some of it but I don't think we will ever get the answers or the proof to confirm it.
This is what has me thinking of the possibility about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc0NWVGIRAA
In my opinion, the claim is not that far-fetched. While I have not delved into the matter to ascertain the existence of any corroborating evidence, it appears that this approach has been employed by the government for over a century, and corporations have utilized it to undermine union strikes. The objective of this tactic is to provoke incidents of violence or property damage, which can cast a negative light on the demonstrators. This can then deter participation in the protests, and provide a pretext for the authorities to take action against the protesters or enact legislation that could otherwise be deemed excessive in curtailing the right to assemble.
I do not doubt your claims of agitators being planted in crowds and the FBI are not always the good guys as shown in movies and TV with the murders of Fred Hampton and the Waco cult etc.
(I am thinking of starting a thread on Waco pretty soon and would love to get your thoughts on that over there.)
As much as I am prejudiced against the FBI and do think it could be possible I just need to see proof to be convinced.
I doubt we will ever get that proof though.
Reason for my doubts is the risk of getting caught and would the FBI really try to incite violence against their brothers in blue as well as those who decide on their budgets and other resources they ask the Govt. for?
I do think that a lot of the sentences against the Trumpers were too long and with prejudice seeing who they were fighting for and done under the Biden admin.
I think there is bias done with that.
Yeah, I haven't seen any evidence so I can't say for sure if the FBI was involved in this particular riot. But I have heard from people like Jimmy Dore, Max Blumenthal, Chris Hedges, and many other leftists making these claims. So while I haven't looked into it myself, I have trust in the people I've mentioned above.
They do but not when they think the election was unfair for them.
Everyone has to pick their battles.
For Libs, it's white on black violence.
For Cons it's against blacks and when they think there was an unfair election just because their candidate lost.
They weren't all racists, in fact very few of them were. The only ones in the crowd who were behaving badly were the white supremacists and Antifa and Donald Trump denounced both of them.
I've been saying this since the beginning. I did not condemn the people on Jan 6th for doing what they did, instead I condemn the far left for not having the balls to do the same thing.
This appears to be a pattern. Two years ago, Jimmy Dore introduced a strategy called Force The Vote, which sought to employ a clever tactic of holding Pelosi's speakership hostage to force a floor vote on Med4All. The timing for this strategy was impeccable, as the razor-thin majority meant that the Squad, despite being a small group, could execute the plan successfully. Med4All was an ideal ask, given that we were in the midst of a pandemic, and the goal was not to achieve victory but to shine a spotlight on the policy and start the conversation. The added bonus was that we could expose all the corporate Democrats willing to vote against such a vital policy in the midst of a pandemic.
The Squad refused to employ this strategy. They chose to submit to Pelosi rather than confront her, despite their primary objective of ousting Pelosi and becoming a thorn in the Democratic party's side (The Justice Democrats were formed specifically for this purpose). The Squad betrayed the people, reneged on their commitments, and abandoned their mission.
Fast forward two years, and the Republicans have now seized the opportunity to utilize the same strategy. And unlike the Squad, they had the balls to do it; They beat Kevin McCarthy like a piñata until he gave in to their demands.
The moral of the story: while Republicans are anti-human scum, they possess the courage to stand firm in their convictions. Meanwhile, Democrats pay lip service to the public while selling out the people.
This reminds of something Malcolm X said: With racist conservatives at least you know where you stand, you can respect that. Where as you must be careful of the white liberal for they are a wolf in sheep's clothing. They will pretend to be your ally, but when the chips are down they are nowhere to be found.
Yeah, I watch his livesstreams on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
You can often find me in his live chat trolling.
I've been watching him since before his channel was called The Jimmy Dore Show. Back in the day, it used to be called TYT Comedy.
Jimmy then bought the channel from Cenk Uygur and changed the name to 'The JImmy Dore Show'. Been watching listening to Jimmy for over 10 years.
I don't agree with him on everything, but he's exactly the kind of socialist I can vibe with. He is following in the footsteps of Chris Hedges. He's become the voice of the working class and a fierce critic of the corporate state and their propaganda.
I share his goal of overthrowing the corporate state.
Cool.
Glad to see you are such a fan.
I just watch the clips from segments on YT.
"I share his goal of overthrowing the corporate state."
Agreed.
I no longer think of it as a two party system.
I think of them both being one party: The Corporate Party.
Then Green, Libertarian, etc are the second parties.
Yeah, as long as we have the Corporate Party, I don't see us as living in a democracy anymore.
If we really did then those second parties would be given a chance.
They do all they can to come up with rules that are impossible to get by to never give them that chance.
That is exaclty right.
We don't really have 2 parties. We have 2 flavors of the uniparty; The corporate party.
And you're absolutely right! We're no longer living in a true democracy, but rather a corporate oligarchy. A famous Princeton study actually proved this by showing that only policies that benefit the corporate parasites get passed, and the wishes of everyday people don't seem to have much impact on what our elected officials do.
I support the Green Party. Although even they have turned into trash, not corporate trash, but it's filled with a bunch of libtards.
Let's organize together to overthrow the corporate parasites. We will stand shoulder to shoulder, left and right and everything in between, standing in solidarity against the oligarchic parasites.
Solidarity Brother.