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DeSantis' lawyers define "woke"


DeSantis' lawyers were forced by the court to define "woke." The lead lawyer described it as "The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."

Again, I just keep wondering what it is about Right-wingers that bothers them so much about this term?

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If you're really wondering, pull your head out of the sand and hit Google.

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For one thing, we believe in the English language, so the whole usage of the term grates on my nerves. Yet, you really think you're the enlightened ones and we're the knuckle-dragging, beer drinking redneck morons you accuse us of being.

There's nothing "woke" about it. It's just Political Correctness 2.0 that seeks to do nothing but replace one flavor of hate (perceived) with another (real). Yes, the only hate being spewed is from YOU. While you accuse the other side of that which you are guilty. According to you conservatives hate minorities, women, gays, the poor, etc., etc., ad nauseam. It's just not true. None of it. Democrats only pretend to care about those demographics. They really only use them for political gain, to push certain wedge issues. It's perpetual victimhood with imagined perpetrators. Divisiveness is the name of the game.

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well since you have dead kids blood on your hands and contradicted yourself in one sentence. yes you are a knuckle dragger

yes there is no racism its all a dem conspiracy.

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Hey look, the only reply you got from them is a low effort "You're dumb"....what a surprise!

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One of the only plays they seem to have in the book.

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> Yet, you really think you're the enlightened ones and we're the knuckle-dragging, beer drinking redneck morons you accuse us of being.

Ummm, where was that?

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You are such a blatant, obvious HATER, you can't see yourself in a mirror.
You are some fucking ugly monster, and yet you think you speak for regular people.
If regular people are like you, then yes, you are the knuckle-draggers which you are so acutely sensitive to bring up yourself.
God, if you had any of the Grace you claim to have, you'd STFU and take up gardening. Feed the birds, for science sake.
Do something other than pollute this site with your hatefulness, ugliness, and persistent rotten negative thoughts.

But we had another senseless shooting today, so I'm sure you're drunk with glee. More guns ! What good are they if you don't shoot them ? Put 30K people out of electricity ! It's a 2nd amendment right ! Happy happy joy joy.
Maybe a small child will get shot and killed tomorrow and you can throw a party, you sick fuck.

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For one thing, we believe in the English language, so the whole usage of the term grates on my nerves. Yet, you really think you're the enlightened ones and we're the knuckle-dragging, beer drinking redneck morons you accuse us of being.

But its you lot who use the term!
"look at them lefty wokes , and their need to address systemic injustices in American society , how terrible!"

The people accused of being "woke" never use the term.

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Like it or not, it's an accepted term in the dictionary. Right-wingers are using the term and lefties/blacks are the ones freaking out about it. The social justice warriors on here freak out when somebody even uses the term "woke" but I think it's the perfect term that covers the constantly changing social justice definitions.

I've noticed in the dictionary below that there is a adjective definition and a disparaging definition. This reminds me of the n-word that is used all the time by blacks BUT it becomes an unspeakable word if uttered by white-skinned folks. People of all political orientations should be able to use the word WOKE since it explains the latest example of supposed INJUSTICE.

People just need to realize that life is not fair and they need to quit complaining every time they don't get a participation trophy.

Woke Definition from Dictionary.com

adjective
having or marked by an active awareness of systemic injustices and prejudices, especially those involving the treatment of ethnic, racial, or sexual minorities:

Disparaging. of or relating to a liberal progressive orthodoxy, especially promoting inclusive policies or ideologies that welcome or embrace ethnic, racial, or sexual minorities.

Slang. aware of the facts, true situation, etc. (sometimes used facetiously):






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> The social justice warriors on here freak out when somebody even uses the term "woke"

???

I have no idea what you mean by that, but I hear the term most frequently when those "social INJUSTICE warriors" bring it up and how they hate it and it is a bad thing, and the people who use it are bad people, and on and on. That is the "(sometimes used facetiously)" part of the definition, and seems to be what is going on here most often.

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I've been on threads recently when someone used the word woke as an adjective and they've been attacked by social justice warriors who police the boards to look for words they don't like. Woke is on the shit list for the social justice warriors. This is straight out of 1984 and communism. Woke is a word that can be used by both sides of a political argument but the lefties want woke for their own use. It's not a derogative term. It just captures the essence of all these insane social justice movements like intersectionality, critical race theory, decolonization, social justice, racial justice, criminal justice reform, gender justice, diversity/equity/inclusion, radical gender theory, environmental justice, fat acceptance and whatever else is purportedly unfair.

I say life is unfair so put on your chin strap and work hard 'til you get a slice of pie. There is probably some wacko who is arguing that effing TOILETS discriminate based on gender, race and body type. Critical toilet theory is coming soon and I don't give a shit.

Most conservatives would be against wokeness since woke philosophies see injustice everywhere and intend to dismantle existing systems. I use the term woke to describe all these social justice movements that exist presently and will appear in the future. Toilet Life Matters!

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> Woke is on the shit list for the social justice warriors. This is straight out of 1984 and communism.

That's the overstatement of the day.

> I say life is unfair so put on your chin strap and work hard 'til you get a slice of pie.

Then you disagree with woke that there are systemic defects in our system that prevent many groups and people from being able to do that.

Then you also disagree with me who thinks that if the US was fair to everyone it would not work the way it does today - that is, it would break up all the institutions of corrupt political power and break the country. It would break it and at some point lead to remediation, but the status quo establishment power would fight to the death not to lose that power.

> Critical toilet theory is coming soon and I don't give a shit.

To extend your scatological metaphor, comments like this show you are not an honest participant in discussion, you are an asshole supporting all these discriminatory systems that dehumanize certain people, mostly likely because you think you personally benefit from them.

> I've never heard a right-wing person complain about wokeness.

Haha ... funny, just read back your own words.

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Communists believe in censorship and a unified voice. Discordant voices are not tolerated and those who speak out are sent to the gulag. http://encyclopedia.uia.org/en/problem/censorship-communist-systems

I disagree that there are systemic defects in the systems that discriminate against groups. There are no racial groups in the US but there are individuals. I disagree with you that the US could be fair to everyone BECAUSE LIFE IS NOT FAIR! I challenge you to find a country where everyone is treated fairly. I'm quite confident that you will not find such a place since LIFE IS NOT FAIR.

I am unaware of any discriminatory systems that dehumanize certain people.

I did make a change to my original comment to note that conservatives generally do not approve of woke philosophies since they woke want to dismantle existing systems. I contend that the woke want to replace the existing systems with various forms of Marxism. Most of these social justice movements are related to communism and are probably promulgated by external forces that want to destabilize the USA. You even advocated for remediation but you did not specify the details.

I will acknowledge that the US system is not always fair but I don't believe many other nations have better systems in place. #Toilet Life Matters!

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> I am unaware

Yes, you are.

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> I contend that the woke want to replace the existing systems with various forms of Marxism.

That's a good way to enshrine the rich and powerful in power forever, just frame all political change as Marxism and oppose it based on the work alone.

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People DIE so they are not in power forever. You and other commies see people as GROUPS but they are INDIVIDUALS. I'm a white male but I am not part of a group of wypipo. I have been stabbed in the back countless times by people who share my skin color. I support equality of opportunity BUT I do not support EQUITY, the equality of outcomes. The writer in the link below put together a great essay on the differences between EQUITY and EQUALITY.

https://amac.us/equity-is-dangerous-marxism-is-not-american/

Marxism is the struggle to overturn systems that are run by oppressors. Classical Marxism designated the bourgeoisie as the oppressor while critical race theory makes white-skinned people the oppressor. When the systems are overthrown, the natural replacement will be communism. Duh! Communism has never succeeded but it sounds good. Greed is a part of human nature so life will NEVER be FAIR. LIFE IS NOT FAIR! Toilet life matters!




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Why is it the people like joej that do not know or understand anything are the ones who feel they have to lecture everyone else ... and think that people care about their depraved trauma.

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used the word woke as an adjective and they've been attacked by social justice warriors who police the boards to look for words they don't like

No, they've been attacked for the rest of their opinion
e.g.
"They let a black person on the TV again - its so woke"

Using the word "woke" ismnt the problem , thats just a retard indicator , the problem is the views and opinions that come from those who use "woke" as a disparaging term whenever they see a social injustice being addressed


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I mentioned earlier that I only saw SJW's flipping out when a person used the word WOKE. On the thread linked below concerning the upcoming D&D movie, one poster was attacked after they mentioned their concerns about wokeness ruining the movie.

The trailer features Michelle Rodriguez kicking butt as a female warrior while Chris Pine strums a lute at the end. If Michelle Rodriguez is the badass warrior in the film, this would be an attack on intersectionality since women are usually portrayed as the damsel in distress. It's not a bad thing to have a strong female character BUT it is bad if the strong female character is taking the spot of a male. Most of the people who want to watch D&D are men and most of them are probably white. I am a man who loves D&D and I don't want to see women swinging swords in D&D movies. I have never met a woman in the real world who has liked D&D.

A couple of other links below show that D&D is now embracing wokeness by reclassifying the traits of fictional enemies in their game and eliminating the term RACE from the game. It's a fantasy game in a made-up world so RACE and the depiction of fictional enemies should not matter.

https://moviechat.org/tt2906216/Dungeons-and-Dragons-Honor-Among-Thieves/61fc00b39c6ad456d604a5f6/This-film-Aint-going-to-Work?reply=62dd37efda9ee750bb683cca

https://youtu.be/IiMinixSXII * D&D movie trailer *

https://screenrant.com/dungeons-dragons-vistani-race-romani-offensive-dnd/ * D&D retcons gypsies *

https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/12/01/dungeons-dragons-to-remove-term-race-from-game-lexicon-due-to-its-prejudiced-links-between-real-world-and-fantasy-peoples/

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/dungeons-and-dragons-orcs-racist/ * Orcs are now racist *

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He's partially right, but not accurate enough.

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Well?

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I'd say it's more to draw awareness of thing sthat needed to be drawn attention to as well as attempt to fix any injustices certain demographics may face.

I disagree when he says systemic because that doesn't have to be the case.

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Well, it doesn't make much sense to criticize issues that are non-systemic, at least if you want to be efficient in righting the wrongs.

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Well, the issues between Israel and Palestine aren't really systematic.

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Do you mean systemic?

Not that it is relevant, but I would say the issues between the Arabs and the Jews in Israel/Palestine are very systemic in that the system of political Islam is a low-tech, illiberal, and totalitarian system that allows no political power to challenge it and will not coexist with any other system.

Why do you bring up Israel and Palestine?

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Why do you bring up Israel and Palestine?

Because many people would consider being pro-Palestine as the "woke" opinion.

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That is at the very least debatable, and in my opinion wrong.

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Again, I just keep wondering what it is about Right-wingers that bothers them so much about this term?


It's racist. New racism will not cure old racism.

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Says the racist who attacks the term because it brings up the "systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them", and who thinks it is enough to just claim racism because the bad guys of these systemic injustices happen to be white, like Georgia's governor Brian Kemp, who also claims he is not racist and pretends to be offended when accused of it - even though he is descended from a long line of slaveholders and plantation business concerns and has worked to change election laws in Georgia to treat black majority districts differently from white majority districts.

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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/brett-favre-tricked-into-recording-anti-semitic-video


I thought woke refered to people who have been woken up to any cause they were not awareofbefore

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Sadly, it's not just the American society that has woke issues, and not in the way those tossers defined it.

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"Woke" is just a dog-whistle word conservatives have dreamt up and exploited to goad the drooling class into getting upset over imagined non-problems.
Who cares about Economic Inequity and a lack of compassionate Health Care in a Wealthy Nation when you can complain about Blacks in movies and Gays in love? Let's get our priorities straight ! (sarcasm alert)

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You have a point, except it was not Conservatives that made up the word.

The Oxford English Dictionary traces the earliest such usage to a 1962 New York Times Magazine article titled "If You're Woke You Dig It" by African-American novelist William Melvin Kelley, describing the appropriation of Black slang by white beatniks.

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that is not the same word , the same way gay isnt the same word

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Sorry, but that is a weak analogy.

Woke in 1962 related to African issues and woke of today are still very related to the African American experience, while gay used in the past and gay of today have no relation to each other. So, maybe not the same word, but definitely not morphed in the same way.

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ok, fair point, but morphed quite a lot though .

Morphed so much its worth redefining the start point of the current meaning to... well .. about 4 years ago

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