"Renowned Oncologist Sends Urgent Letter Calling to End COVID Vaccine Program Immediately as Cancers and other Diseases Are Rapidly Progressing in ‘Boosted’ People"
Thanks for the link, did you read it? Its four years old and it doesn't say what you want it to. This is depressing. I hope that you will read more on mRNA so you can understand what your link is talking about.
Nothing written after 2019 can be trusted? Wow. This conspiracy theory is really pervasive isn't it?!
• Before 2020 a vaccine vaccinated you. As in prevented you from getting said “virus”. -I don't know what you are implying here.
• Before 2020 every study concluded masks did not prevent viral transmission. - okay whew, here we go. wearing a mask can't prevent you from getting the virus, you are right! So why was it important to wear a mask? To slow the spread down which it did, the amount of microscopic fluid that the virus traveled on was reduced by covering your mouth. It prevented you also from touching your mouth as we often do after handling something that could carry the virus. I don't understand why people became so outraged over having to cover their mouths. I wish everyone had to stand 6 feet away from me and talk through a mask ALL the time. You would too if you knew the amount of organisms that fly out of a humans mouth when they are talking.
• Before 2020 the flu killed 100k people a year. After 2019 it killed 0 - that is just absurd. If someone says something to you that sounds absurd, your first impulse should be to fact check what they are saying, not to look for confirmation that they were right. The internet will back up whatever crazy idea that you want to have, that's why intelligent people don't just accept crazy ideas without proof from people who actually know and understand microbiology.
• Before 2020 cause of death was determined by the actual cause of death. Not what made hospitals 100x more in profits. - Hospitals do not get paid more for covid-19 deaths. Coding inappropriately can cost a medical professional their job, what is their motivation to do this? Do facts even matter to a conspiracist? Maybe I am just wasting my time but it is interesting to me how you can reason with yourself. Of courser, some people still don't believe in evolution so I guess it's common.
• Before 2020 the idea of vaccinating against a virus was futile. Hence why there’s never been an HIV vaccine. Virus adapt to quickly. - What on earth are you talking about? We've had flu vaccines for a long time. We don't have a cure for HIV. This one seems to be the source of a lot of your misinformation. There is a cure for ignorance though, it's education. It's nothing to be ashamed of, I'm ignorant about a ton of stuff, it's normal but I usually don't form any solid beliefs until I educate myself on things.
Greed is a motivation for a lot of capitalism for sure but the reason that there isn't a cure is that there is no one FLU there are a kerbillion mutations because of the speed at which virus' can reproduce. So that's why we have the every year flu vax which helps but doesn't cure it.
There is also no one kind of cancer, even if you have a 'type' like mesothelioma the disease is unique to YOU and your body chemistry. Make sense?
True, the Flu vaccine and the Covid vaccine neither cure nor prevent the disease. Yet the entire World shut down for almost a year and Joe mandated that everyone get the jab or lose your job. Here we are not even 9 months after Joe said it was safe to go outside and people are still getting Covid.
Looking back, shutting down the economy was worse than the actual virus.
There is one kind of Type 2 Diabetes. Scientists have been working on a cure for at least 50 years but still have nothing. Just think about all the money that has been spent over the years. It has to be in the high trillions by now.
We “no vaxxers” tried to warn you gullible folks, but nooo, you swallowed Lord Fauci, the stupid Democrats & RINOS mantra…hook, line & sinker! Doing bad things usually do come around and bite you on the arse! It’s known as Karma. Damn idiots shut down the country and the other idiots voted them back in! What’s that? You say? Something about Karma strikes again? Hmm? 🤔
It's not just that it's how hateful they were about it. How they tried to get us fired, cancelled etc, and how successful they were at it. This is absolutely a tragedy but the world is better off without that class of humanity who live on hate as if it were indispensable. If this were a teenage phase my point of view would be different but this malady does not discriminate by age- there are many fogies in their ranks. It's one of the saddest things I've ever seen. If I were able to gain pleasure from the misfortunes of others I would be a leftist, but I can't. I can't watch "Cops" or similar shows because of the same reason- it's not in me. I fail in this often but I try everyday to live up to the prayer of Saint Francis:
Lord, make me an instrument of Your peace;
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
Where there is injury, pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
And where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master,
Grant that I may not so much seek
To be consoled as to console;
To be understood, as to understand;
To be loved, as to love;
For it is in giving that we receive,
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
And it is in dying that we are born to Eternal Life.
Amen.
I am not too sure what god has to do with vaccines of science? real scientists came ups with vaccines for hundreds of years and save more people in history than any other medicine. While you radicals fought them tooth and nail and instead tried to push prayer healing.
Also Jesus if he returned or if you actually followed his teaching would be called a rabid communist. In particular his teachings on wealth.
And here it is yet again people! 🤷🏼♀️ The leftist attacking the Messenger! They can’t refute so instead they Deflect and Dismiss the Message!
”…real scientists came ups with vaccines for hundreds of years”
“hundreds of years”? Does not quite 250 years mean “hundreds of years” to you?
👏🏻👏🏻 Well done with the Deflection routine! Interjecting Jesus and wealth into the mix.
Luke 12:13-21 ”Someone in the crowd said to Jesus, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the family inheritance with me.” But he said to him, “Friend, who set me to be a judge or arbitrator over you?”’
He never said to redistribute wealth in order to have equity. But, his teachings did admonish those who aren’t willing to work.
2 Thessalonians 3:10 ”For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.”
No apparently you don't on multiple topics seemingly.
“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” (Matt. 19:24.)"
You would claim Jesus was a die hard communist if you actually read let alone followed half of your own bible.
Maybe keep your mouth closed. from my couple days here I see you saying silly things and getting put in your place. it seems to be a trend. if you would like ill formulate a list of left wing/socialist Jesus quotes and see how close you follow your imaginary friend or if you are just a typical a la carte right winger who only picks and chooses the easy to follow and beliefs so you can lecture others with a sense of superiority while just ignoring anything in there that would apply to and mildly inconvenience your own life
Whatever justification you have to give to avoid providing an actual argument. you did the same in our other exchange, throwing a fit and rattling on about conspiracies.
It sure must be nice when challenged and not having an answer, to just claim the others a troll. it lets you turn to autopilot mode and never have to admit you are wrong.
Nice excuse to not address anything I said. I take it you will now concede you have no argument? Thank you for your time debating but you frankly provided nothing of worth.
Do you require a peer reviewed study to take a shit? I need a degree to think critically? Hoo boy...
My my skepticism regarding rushed untested mRNA products was completely sound, and all of them turned out to be true. This is all observable in the real world, no need for a "study".
you found one person who agrees with your skepticism online and you think you have all the answers
Project much? Real vaccines require at least 10 years for study to make sure they are safe. Anyone with a functioning brain(apparently, not many have one) knows this, and took the wait and see approach.
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I require peer review on a complicated subject like virology and vaccinology, as should you. that is how science works. you prove things. you don't just make statements about your opinion or feelings.
its not about critical thinking, you have no understanding of something this complex.
I am not projecting as I have the culmination of medical and scientific experts on my side. Can you show me one scientific institution that agrees with your opinion?
yes that is why peer review and studies. which you don't have. No amount of keyboard "intellectual" in his chair saying "I thought it about it critically and I am right!" changes that.
you aren't a scientist, you aren't part of the scientific community, you don't do science. your opinions are invalid and hence dismissed.
You do not understand science. maybe go to some conspiracy boards and spew your lies there?
VACCINES PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING THE SICK...THEY ALSO TAKE A GOOD DECADE TO TEST...YOUR COMMENT IS MOOT AS WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS NOT A VACCINE. NOEMOJI
It is a vaccine despite your claim. Have any actual medical institutions you can provide a link to that says otherwise?
You do not understanding vaccines apparently. Normal season flu vaccines are also temporary and may only relieve symptoms or lessen them, they are still vaccines. plenty of vaccines don't have a 100% immunity rate. You are wrong.
Yea who needs medicines for diseases or vaccines which have saved more people than any scientific medical discovery. That would just be dumb. We should ban them all. Why stop there with just vaccines and medicine? Lets stop all medical procedures.
I am ridiculing you. Where did you get your degree btw? you are clearly an expert on vaccinology I am curious why I should listen to you and not actual scientists?
When you get ill will you still hold to your conviction and not go see a doctor? or is that good medicine you believe in?
I dont blame you being bored. someone who such a high intellect that they "don't take medicine" must get bored of the normal discussions of us lesser brained plebs.
where did you get your degree in a medicinal/scientific related field since you are an expert on medicine and human health?
Yaa those experts don't know anything. not only do I not take medicine, I also stockpiled bunch of asbestos to use in my ceiling and for insulation. I also got a large amount of lead paint for my home. Those dumb doctors and scientists don't know act they are talking about.
I don't listen to those "experts" lies. What the hell do they know with their degrees and studies. We are smarter though right? Right?
[–] Sparky - It's not just that it's how hateful they were about it...
As opposed to anti-vaxxers who would go out of their way to cough in the face of mask wearers during the height of the pandemic as if they were actually making a valid point, instead of THEMSELVES following the simple concept of 'living and let living' that their objections AGAINST being asked to be vaccinated were entirely based upon?
And before you try to suggest that such occurrences did not happen, there are multitudes of video evidence which prove that anti-vaxxers did that exact thing.
Not hardly! Karma comes a-knocking when you blindly take an unknown substance into your body and guess what? You still get Covid, you still infect others, you get Covid again, but you’re weaker this time around, and you can still die from it because you haven’t built an immunity to it. In the mean time a number of other nasties begin happening to you. I will repeat again what I posted earlier. Please read carefully. The vaccine is harming our young. Maybe that’s the purpose of it.
“The cancer specialist of more than 30 years writes that the link between Covid vaccine and “blood clots, myocarditis, heart attacks, and strokes is now well accepted, as is the link with myelitis and neuropathy.”
It’s accepted? Damn! How gullible are you people to knowingly take a jab which is linked to the above? Damn! It’s accepted? No thank you! This vaccine is more dangerous than Warfarin which was developed to kill RATS, then used off label as a blood thinner. It’s commonly filled as Coumadin. Aspirin therapy has been proven to work better and it’s not as dangerous.
BTW, Karma more than likely will affect ex-smokers decades later. I can attest to that bit of info.
>Not hardly! Karma comes a-knocking when you blindly take an unknown substance into your body
Fail #1, it's hardly an unknown substance when it was %100 developed in a lab by scientists.
>You still get Covid, you still infect others, you get Covid again,
Same like a common cold. What you are struggling to understand is that just because someone is not showing symptoms of covid doesn't mean that they are carrying it and capable of transmitting it to others.
>but you’re weaker this time around, and you can still die from it because you haven’t built an immunity to it.
And people can still die from the flu owing to a weakened immunity system, but this doesn't stop people getting the flu vaccination each year because the virus mutates and people want to do whatever is best not to catch it.
“The cancer specialist of more than 30 years writes that the link between Covid vaccine and “blood clots, myocarditis, heart attacks, and strokes is now well accepted, as is the link with myelitis and neuropathy.”
It’s accepted? Damn! How gullible are you people to knowingly take a jab which is linked to the above?
Feel free to post a link to when the long term effects of the vaccine were well known at the time of it's release. Meanwhile the long term effects of covid are well known; you're more likely to survive it, assuming you survived the short term effects.
This vaccine is more dangerous than Warfarin which was developed to kill RATS, then used off label as a blood thinner. It’s commonly filled as Coumadin. Aspirin therapy has been proven to work better and it’s not as dangerous.
Damn! All those people being put on ventilators in hospitals for days on end, and all they had to do was take a couple of Aspirin instead? What were all those doctors and nurses thinking!??
BTW, Karma more than likely will affect ex-smokers decades later. I can attest to that bit of info.
For the sake of argument, what advice would you have given at the time of the outbreak?
It is truly shocking this level of ignorance and borderline conspiracy paranoia still persist with people like the gentleman below you. This is what happens when you combine decades of underfunded American schooling with mass untreated Mental illness.
If it's from the right it's always a conspiracy until it turns out to be absolutely true. If it comes from the left it's always absolutely true until it's proven to be a conspiracy.
no its a conspiracy left or right if its the claim with the least or no evidence.
the thing with a conspiracy, compared to a supported claim, is because it doesn't rely on evidence you may claim absolutely anything you want to. I can claim covid was manufactured by a secret jewish cabal. or by big foot. this is why conspiracies are utterly useless. it's equivalent to religious faith. You can believe whatever you want and hence is not a path to truth.
I am open to any claim that has evidence, give me evidence, that is all I care about. left, right, centre, democrat, republican I do not care who says it. I care about what they say and the evidence they present to support such a claim.
if a lefty says the moon is made of cheese and a right winger says no its a planet like ours a rocky body made up of various metallic elements. im not going to say like you imply "I don't believe the right winger! I believe the lefty!"
this clearly upsets you and you'd rather believe what feels good/sounds interesting, than what is true. you are just a partisan actor who is angry people don't take your unfounded claims seriously.
jimmy a former leftist who like Tim pool and Dave Rubin realized you could make more money pretending to still be on the left while just acting like you agree with the right on everything, rather than being a leftist.
wow amazing insult. you have to get someone to help you come up with that?
Everybody I grew up with are former liberals turned conservative and trust me they aren't getting paid for it. It's just where logical people who follow the truth and the evidence end up. You have to be a crazy quack to call yourself a liberal these days.
Well it's like I read an article from an astute liberal who assured me that Unvaxxed people who never had COVID while they exist are extremely rare except it's me and my three brothers and my best friend and his brother. I guess the government should be hunting us down to study our super genes huh you liberal quack?
wha the fuck does being a liberal have to do with "some article you read"
were they a doctor or medical expert? how does one persons opinion affect science? you continue to show you are a mentally low functioning individual.
no the government should hunt you down and offer you free evening courses so you can get your GED. since you clearly didn't get one.
Thinking your Personal anecdotes prove a bigger picture, whether its 3 people you know not getting covid, or one "liberal" who wrote one article, shows you are dumb, plain and simple. you are a dumb person.
Just like how my city every election year was flooded with blue signs and they voted liberal but now it's flooded with a red wave every election year but are told they still vote liberal when every liberal I knew among them now acts like they were conservative before me? I trust my eyes not big government lies.
You act like its just Jimmy or just Joe Rogan as the source as if they don't interview experts and site real scientific studies. The guy who invented the damn vaccine is against it but i should just ignore all the science and listen to you right?
I'm definitely an uneducated pleb. Thats why i listen to real experts and look at real studies on shows like Jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan to get a better picture of whats going on instead of listening to LogicalLeftist on Moviechat telling me not to read or do my own research.
do you know what scientific research is? you've never done it in your life. you find people who agree with you and search that out. its confirmation bias
I was suspicious because that's not a reliable site, but the letter was published on a British site. Surprised he's not being attacked by the establishment.
Yeah, and when everyone is vaccinated all the cases of Covid will be vaccinated people - so what? There was just a report where a jogger going through a park gave a bunch of people exposed to him Covid. Getting vaccinated not only reduces your chance of having a bad case of Covid, or being hospitalized or dying from it, vaccination will also give you much lower odds of getting long Covid too.
How many people do you actually know with "long covid?" I don't know any; never met a person who claimed to have it. In most cases "long covid" are just side effects from the rushed, experimental, "covid vaxx."
> How many people do you actually know with "long covid?"
What possible difference can that make? So, you don't believe in "Long Covid"? OK by me. But then you purport to explain it, even though you don't believe in it and know nothing about it ... typical Republican.
What difference can it make? If YOU don't know any, and I don't know any.....THERE AREN'T ANY.
I explained that long covid is bullshit and just a front for SIDE EFFECTS from the vaxxx. People who think they are suffering from long covid, are actually suffering from SIDE EFFECTS from the vaxxx.
Just like covid never caused Myocarditis until the vaxx showed up. Once the vaxx rolled out and people started getting Myocarditis from it, ALL OF A SUDDEN they created a new claim; Now ALL OF A SUDDEN covid is also causing Myocarditis.
On this week’s Tech Nation, Moira speaks with Dr. Seth Lederman, the Co-Founder and CEO of Tonix Pharmaceuticals, about Long Covid – and it potential relation to another medical condition, Fibromyalgia. Tonix is now recruiting subjects for advanced Human Clinical Trials in both.
Long Covid is a recognized medical condition. They may not completely understand certain conditions, but they are different and they don't just make them up. Conditions must be measurable and distinct.
No, long Covid is not "vax injuries", since most people with long Covid never got vaxxed. I was tempted to add "you idiot" to the end that comment, but I won't. ;-)
Yes it is considered a vaccine by definition. Your lack of education on the subject or biology and in particular virology and vaccinology does not change this.
The polio vaccines doesn't stop infection. you still get infected. it stops deadly symptoms.
Vaccines vary in efficacy. Especially for older people and those with immune comprised systems. Those vaccines we consider make us "immune" often have to be taken more often, or more shots of it than a person with a normal functioning immune system.
Different viruses are different types and act differently. mind blown I know. its Why we have no vaccine for the common cold yet ones for measles. depedning how the virus acts and infects we may not be able to come up with the same efficacy as say the polio virus.
Have you never wondered why we don't then have vaccines for every single virus? Maybe spend some time reading sources from an actual reputable medical or scientific institution on biology. rather than spewing nonsense we have well understood for decades.
I mean this with all sincerity. go read. The information about different virus families and why and how we can and cannot fight others as effectively is all out there. this is know virology. well before Covid.
Isn’t it odd the Black Plague died out WITHOUT a vaccine? Yes, millions died, but others developed immunity which was passed on to future generations. People die while others live. It did rear its ugly head again sometime later, but still no vaccine.
The most deadliest disease to hit humankind is Smallpox, but the vaccine is also the most dangerous.
How many people died of the black plague?? by some estimated 33% of Europe.
yes starvation and all sorts of diseases also killed untold masses. should we let those run their course too? cancers as well? or maybe instead we shoulduse modern technology to help solve them.
I am shocked you are saying the vaccine is sooo bad because it's killed some people, while advocating untold more deaths by letting a pandemic run its course. Should we have done that with measles and polio too?
the smallpox vaccine is dangerous? any scientific citations on that claim?
You people have been reduced to claiming it prevents extreme symptoms before death from the virus. It's a joke, you got scammed like the right got scammed with wmds.
Who is "you people". yes what do you think other flu vaccines have been doing all this time? you get the virus, the symptom are less or not there it depends. you think its been giving you hyper immunity that compiles each year until you are immune to thousands and thousands of strains and flu invincible? those seasonal flu shots have always been known to increase protection, not make them totally immune.
Your lack of education and understanding on the subject is not a reflection of there being a lack of scientific information available. Here I will do the leg work for you
Why do measles vaccines last a lifetime when the COVID-19 vaccines do not?
The vaccination against measles is routinely administered in early childhood, typically between 9-12 months of age. While the early immunization and lifetime protection against COVID-19 is something the world may hope for, scientists recognize that key differences between the SARS-CoV-2 and measles viruses currently prevent this type of immune protection. “It comes down to the glycoproteins,” says Dr. Ben Bone, a virologist based at the University of East Anglia who specializes in vaccine technology and virus/host cell interactions. “In some viruses, such as influenza or SARS-CoV-2, the glycoproteins are more flexible and can handle more mutations while still functioning, resulting in a structural difference which affects their ability to evade vaccines.”
SARS-CoV-2, similarly to seasonal flu, can mutate from season to season. The mutations acquired over the course of several months can result in structural changes to its glycoproteins, making it unrecognizable to the antibodies produced in response to a previous vaccine. Hence, some medical professionals have suggested that a seasonal COVID-19 vaccine may be required every year.
The measles virus does not mutate in the same way as SARS-CoV-2. “Mutations [in the virus’ genetic material] may impair the glycoproteins on the measles virus’ surface, which it needs for entry into your cells,” says Bone. While the measles virus mutates as readily as any other similar virus, mutations in the antibody-binding glycoproteins are unfavorable to its infectivity. The mutated measles virus cannot cause infection and therefore no new vaccine development is required. Therefore, the vaccine is best administered in childhood, as it provides the best opportunity for a lifetime of immune protection.
I don't understand how natural immunity works, so if I get the flu and am exposed to the same virus a week later I get sick again? Blahblahblah, you can change definitions all you want people remember. And all your idiots are on video saying that getting the vaccine will prevent symptoms and prevent transmission. Go back to your scientific "institutions".
"natural immunity" is what? your body sent a perfect system where it has 100% immunity or 0. You can get "sick" again. sick could mean you are infected with no symptoms. you are sick and have some very light symptoms. or you still get very sick. But the alternative could have been worse had you got had some antibodies from your previous encounter with the virus.
its not changing definitions. You just have no understanding of virology in the slightest.
yes I will go to my virologists and immunologists. The people who actually have PHD's, do studies and went to school for this. Compared to a person on here with no education on the matter and doesn't understand it in the slightest.
If you get sick you should avoid your family doctor with their fancy "education" and accretions. Just ask someone on Moviechat for medical advice instead.
I didn't realize this website was chalk full of MDs and virologist and immunologists.
or just people who say "ignore them and "use your common sense"". I don't now how having no education just using "common sense" applies to something as complex as virology and vaccines but there you go
Common sense will help one to generate an hypothesis.
But, experimenting, collecting and analyzing data ... i.e. peer-reviewed science is what to rely on and put our trust in. The problem today is that money and politics are so powerful they can manipulate what we hear and do not hear and put us on a never-ending downward spiral that only lifts up a psychopathic few.
of course. the sea of misinformation spread by money interests is massive. that combined with Fox News, a decline in public information and republicans being primed for decades to believe nonsense lies is why I believe Covid conspiracies too hold particularly strong there
A 1969 study found that, out of every one million people vaccinated, 74 will suffer serious complications, and at least one will die.
So why is the government recommending a dangerous vaccine that could kill people?
Because the disease it prevents is worse.
"It is the worst human disease. It probably killed more people in history than any other infectious agent, including the Black Death of the Middle Ages," says Richard Preston, who writes about deadly diseases like Ebola and anthrax. Nothing scares him like smallpox. He's just written a book called "The Demon in the Freezer," about how the smallpox virus has been turned into a weapon of mass-destruction.
you tried to support your argument. you ended up supporting mine instead it seems. You offered no argument as to why vaccines should not be used. your wording made it sound like the small pox vaccine was horrible and extremely deadly. its more deadly than other vaccines sure. but as your own article made clear the benefits outweighed the dangers. like the covid vaccine
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I wasn’t arguing. I didn’t say not to take the smallpox vaccine. I requested it for my girls even when it was deemed no longer necessary. Until today I wasn’t aware “Scientists call it the most dangerous vaccine known to man.”
”To stay protected from smallpox, you should get booster vaccinations every 3 years.” Have you had your booster? If not, why not? It’s more deadly than Covid! You believe the Covid vax works; why not the smallpox booster.
Today I fear the instant death diseases akin to Ebola due to our open borders with 3rd world people flowing across.
”Measles, mumps and rubella are all viral infections that caused widespread illness in the past. They are viral infections that have each caused widespread, deadly disease outbreaks.”
Are you aware those three were once considered “the childhood diseases”. I had all three…most kids in my age bracket did. What I did almost succumb to was bronchial pneumonia. I had everything before age 5. I’m still kicking! I also had a rare disease… Undulant Fever.
“Medical Definition of Undulant fever” (Brucellosis)
“There has been concern about brucellosis as a possible weapon for bioterrorism.”
What we did fear was polio and the dreaded iron lung. There were polio collection stands set up in every big city where we kids would ask our parent (s) for some change to throw into the collection containers.
Final note: Everyone I know who has acquired Covid-19 got it after their vax jabs followed by boosters. Some have had 2-3 times.
To stay protected from smallpox, you should get booster vaccinations every 3 years.” Have you had your booster? If not, why not? It’s more deadly than Covid! You believe the Covid vax works; why not the smallpox booster.
Maybe because covid is still active? and experts have deemed smallpox's so insignificantly small now its unnecessary. if there was a surge and experts recommended it then yes id get it again. you keep proving my point. that we should listen to the experts and vaccines may have a small risk but the benefits outweigh them. even your own source says 1 in 1 million die from an adverse small pox vaccine reaction. meaning in the United States 340 people would die if every man woman and child were to be vaccinated. the far less deadly covid killed 1 million. And you are really here arguing we shouldn't vaccinate?
Today I fear the instant death diseases akin to Ebola due to our open borders with 3rd world people flowing across.
good for you. and? You are welcome to be paranoid and irrational due to political and personal reasons. Unless you have evidence it's a major problem then you are just having misplaced paranoid thoughts. Look how easily covid spread and how many it killed. vs ebola. and you are acting like Ebolas the threat not covid?
During the "ebola outbreak" in 2014-2016 2 people died. so your real concern is not covid where 1 million died, but ebola where 2 did..
Are you aware those three were once considered “the childhood diseases”. I had all three…most kids in my age bracket did. What I did almost succumb to was bronchial pneumonia. I had everything before age 5. I’m still kicking! I also had a rare disease… Undulant Fever.
what's your point? the point of the article I posted wasn't many an argument about "childhood diseases". the point of that article is to show the difference between vaccines and why they work differently. I do not care about your personal anecdote. Nor do scientists or medical experts.
“Medical Definition of Undulant fever” (Brucellosis)
“There has been concern about brucellosis as a possible weapon for bioterrorism.”
Again what is your argument here? You are all over the place giving personal testimony and experience as "proof" these deadly diseases are no big deal. and ranting about bioterrorism to boot. this is unrelated nonsense and nothing to do with the subject.
Final note: Everyone I know who has acquired Covid-19 got it after their vax jabs followed by boosters. Some have had 2-3 times.
Who cares. everyone I know who has been in a car accident did so during the day. I guess the sun causes car accidents. Maybe people with vaccines got covid was because restrictions were more lifted. people stopped wearing their masks and social distancing and constant hand washing meant they didn't get it before. :0 rather than living in a covid free bubble, they returned to normal life. what's your point? You apparently don't know how the covid vaccine works and think your personal anecdotes have any weight what so ever.
your anecdotes are nonsense and you nothing you have said should be taken seriously nor has any weight. I will continue to listen to actual virologists and immunologists and other related relevant fields. not some random online who has yet to get a single point correct and thinks his anecdote are equivalent to scientific studies.
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You totally dismiss or deflect the warnings from learned oncologists and others in the medical profession. Face to face with them could you hold your own? I doubt it.
Even Dr. Robert Malone, a medical doctor and an infectious-disease researcher who helped develop the mNRA vaccine is against the Covid vaccine. Are you more knowledgable than he is? Are you more knowledgable than Dr. Angus Dalgleish, a renowned oncologist? There are scores of medical personnel who are against this vaccine. Do you know more than they do? If so, with your expertise, you should contribute your vast knowledge.
”Evidence grows stronger for Covid vaccine link to heart issue, CDC says”
The following conditions are OK after taking the vaccine. No need to be concerned. Nah! Nothing to it! It’s also OK to dive off a high diving board into 3 feet of water. 🙄
“The cancer specialist of more than 30 years writes that the link between Covid vaccine and “blood clots, myocarditis, heart attacks, and strokes is now well accepted, as is the link with myelitis and neuropathy.”
yes you've latched on to one ontologists claim. I'm not saying he's right or wrong but this isn't how science works. He is your new champion of covid conspiracies so you will milk it.
You guys are still quoting the long discredited Malone?
yes every vaccine will have some issues. like you pointed out with the smallpox vaccine. the issue is always do the pros outweigh the cons. Months ago on Facebook is aw you guys touting out "Pfizers own documents show we were right!!!"
but when I looked into it it was the list of usual symptoms ay flu shot would be, including a sore arm and fever.
you guys yet again think you found your silver bullet and this is your entire story now.
I give up! You go ahead and believe what you want to believe. Dealing with you is akin to beating a dead horse! I prefer to believe those who deal every day with the consequences of this “rush to market” poison. Healthy people survive Covid. Those who are dying are the elderly, the obese, and those who have a host of other medical issues. My Primary Physician is against giving his patients this crap!
To repeat the following means nothing to you as long as YOU have your jab! Scores of medical personnel and now the CDC be damned!
”Evidence grows stronger for Covid vaccine link to heart issue, CDC says”
Young men are in danger of acquiring myocarditis, but you know best. Myocarditis isn’t important, but taking the jab is. I won’t be around long enough to witness the residual effects of this poison.
With that said, you go right ahead and continue to take the jab which includes PEG…the same ingredient used in anti-freeze!
No in fact I am doing the opposite of believing what I want to believe. That is what you do.
your anecdotes are garbage and I shall demonstrate why. I met a guy, he had a Honda that died after a week, therefore all Hondas die and are bad cars. that's an anecdote. When in fact we know from the broader aggregate evidence, Hondas are one of the best and most reliable brands. anecdotes mean nothing. facts and data do.
which you have none of
Those who are dying are the elderly, the obese, and those who have a host of other medical issues. My Primary Physician is against giving his patients this crap!
So how almost every disease works? the older and weaker being more vulnerable to sickness? I guess we shouldn't try and stop any disease.
I won’t be around long enough to witness the residual effects of this poison.
No offence but probably for the best if you are spreading lies and misinformation.
To repeat the following means nothing to you as long as YOU have your jab! Scores of medical personnel and now the CDC be damned!
who are these scores of people? you referenced one person. and not a single medical institution. You are now just inventing things.
Young men are in danger of acquiring myocarditis, but you know best. Myocarditis isn’t important, but taking the jab is. I won’t be around long enough to witness the residual effects of this poison.
yes and? myocarditis can be very mild. every vaccine has side effects.
Overall, 226 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis after vaccination in people younger than age 30 have been confirmed, Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, deputy director of the CDC's Immunization Safety Office, said during a presentation to a Food and Drug Administration advisory group. Further investigation is needed, however, to confirm whether the vaccination was the cause of the heart problem.
Normally, fewer than 100 cases would be expected for this age group.
so double what they expected, but still only 226 in out of tens of millions.
yes and apples have arsenic, you know that thing people use to poison people. I guess apples are deadly. or how chocolate and sweet potatoes contain lead. Holy Gee! chocolate and sweet potatoes are poison!
Or maybe like the arsenic in apples, PEG is at tolerable and safe micro amounts. Excuse my rudeness but you sound like a crazy person.
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Websters literally had to change the definition to keep up with misuse. Maybe I'm too cynical, but it kinda sounds like you already know that, and just can't help trying to gaslight people. Why the hell would you bring up the definition? According to the new definition, they don't immunize you, they just boost your immune response. That's not what we all understood a vaccine to be.
there were many vaccines, previous to covid, that didn't fully immunize you as well. dictionaries are not about an objective meaning. they are about common usage.. What YOU understood as a vaccine, your lack of understanding of biology and in particular vaccinology doesn't change a single iota of what the scienctific community thought, understood or defined vaccines as.
the definition in Webster was updated to more accurately define the term, various vaccines have various levels of efficacy. the seasonal flu shot we got long before the covid one acted the same. but due to the way the Sars/covid virus family infects, as well as evolves, they aren't as effective as say the Measels one. this has been know for decades.
again the scientific definition, didn't change, you are just uneducated on the topic
soo since their invention around 1945 when influenza vaccines were first developed. which mitigated symptoms and made it less severe. none of these were actual vaccines?
We need to get this gentleman his Nobel peace prize. All of the immunologists and biologists are wrong because one guy online said otherwise. Just out of curiosity where did you get your degree? Did you take biology generally or specialize in virology?
the belief in degrees is baffling. almost all breakthroughs of knowledge came from self-educated people.
a degree these days is just parroting someone else, no thinking required
and the nobel prize? only massmurders and system puppets get them
a standardization in various fields of a certain threshold of knowledge makes sense given how complex things are and how much as the human species we know.
especially in the sciences. the people who actually do studies, study virus RNA, are medical experts and are part of the biology academia aren't "google educated" people. to get your bachelors, masters and PHD can take anywhere from 10-14 years. with good reason.
its not parroting, its recognizing that there are certain accepted things in science. It's like claiming evolution is true is just "parroting someone else".
you are so ignorant and poorly educated, you do not even know what an actual education is. and think that people who did some google searches are equal to someone with a PHD focusing in virology.
you are part of reason Americans and others are so poorly educated.
im not american and i studied at university long enough to see through the charade.
its not education, its stupidifying. yeah it takes 10-14 years + another 12 from school to turn an intelligent human into a parroting robot.
real education is only to be found in philosophy and math, maybe psychology.. and even there its highly dependant on your lectors.
and dont get me started on evolution lol.
academia is a logical construct based on a lot of false axioms, thats it.
no truth to be found there, its all made up. more of a religion
as you said, if things become too complex, nobody understands anything anymore and has to rely on belief..
the human species knows nothing anymore. its all just data at this point. and a species cant understand anything anyway, only certain individuals might be able to understand something.
let me tell you,if you cant understand the path, then you dont understand the destination either.
and google has the whole knowledge of the world. google education can give you way better insight and sources than any university ever could. if you have a rational mind that is.
science is only for building tech. and the consequences of that tech can be seen all around us. the planet and societies are fucked up. shiny and comfortable, but artificial
and now people pray to it like it is god. we are back to square one, when people prayed to trees and stones, because that were their surroundings. just now its calculators and monitors.
its a staircase into the abyss. tech fucked us up, now we need more tech to fix it, then more, then more.
yeah great. transhumanism and robot planet coming in. I want to live in nature and not become a borg. everyone who has ever programmed anything knows that bugs ruin it.
Only God was able to create perfection.
btw only stupid people call other as such, because theyre too limited to draw their own conclusions and never learned dialectics
tens of thousands of universities. you studied at one and "saw through the charade". I love vague general claims that don't show anything.
no it takes 10-14 years to study topics because our knowledge is so vast. you think biology and specifically say virology is a super easy subject? you think research methods in science is super easy? you can just pick up all the vast amount of research over a weekend?
so geology, psychics, biology, history doesn't have "real education"?
you don't believe the theory of evolution has good support? it is literally one of the most supported scientific facts/theories. with multiple scientific disciplines having multiple lines of evidence that support it. you are an uneducated joke.
academia is a construction and no one knows anything?you are dumb.
let me tell you, if you cant understand the path, then you dont understand the destination either.
some vague deepity that sounds profound but could mean and apply to anything. no wonder formal education wasn't for you. they do not put up with your bullshit woo woo Deepak Chopra shit.
google also has a load of crap and lies. how do you decipher truth from fact? how do you learn to think critically? how do you decipher junk science from real science. and learn the difference?
science is only for building tech. and the consequences of that tech can be seen all around us. the planet and societies are fucked up. shiny and comfortable, but artificial
because society was great "before tech". rape, murder and pillaging at an all time high in the past. but now society's bad cause "the tech".
omg you believe in a god too. mentally ill nonsense, a hate of actual academics and god beliefs. no wonder you are too messed up
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im not falling for your personal attacks and i dont expect you to question your reality either.
only a few are blessed and the great filter is already set in motion. i assume you are vaxxed..
"how do you decipher truth from fact? how do you learn to think critically? how do you decipher junk science from real science. and learn the difference?"
thats what real education teaches. you start at plato and close the loop at adorno. ofc that needs studying, so dont try. its not meant for the populus, theyre suppose to be mindless drones.
a quick peek is learning what dialectic and dogma is.
wow you looked over the 99% of my post for me calling you mentally ill?
I do question reality. I actually use science, it's the only thing that gives us some measure of reality, not your religion, not your faith, not your feelings.
the "greater filter". my guess some anti vax conspiracy . you are mentally ill.
ohhh so you start at plato. so you have one philosopher, and that's it. you are one of the dumbest people I've encountered here so far. You think you are intelligent and just come off as some uneducated mentally ill person with not much education.
i can hold you at my extended arm as long as you wiggle my friend. im not engaging ad homos.
your "science" is nothing but a house of cards, i laugh at you. actually its a smile tho. your manners are too uncivilized to feel pity. each their own way, many regret at their last breath.
youre the mentally mislead for believing all the incorrect conclusions that were presented to you. how do you question them without scholasticism? there is no religion higher than truth! (thats theosophy tho.)
try foucault maybe
Histoire de la folie / Madness and Civilization: 1960
you can call me dumb and an idiot as long as you make coherent points. not utter nonsense.
No it isn't a house of cards. its why you drive a car, its why you use the device you are typing this on, its why we have gps and we know lead shouldn't be in paint and gasoline. time and time and time again science and the scientific method has shown to work and give us answers and allow us to make progress. I don't care if you think im uncivilized, you are dumb. and nothing about me changes that.
wrong again bob. funny you reference plato and philosophy, when it has more questions than answers. its hardly a hard science, only math and sciences have facts.
try educating yourself in general. stay away from conspiracies. stay away from places that tell you your feelings and faith are just as valid as science. your brain will slowly heal as you transition back to reality and away from your insane conspiracy and religious based alternative reality. it'll take time but its possible.
let me quote myself:
we are back to square one, when people prayed to trees and stones, because that were their surroundings. just now its calculators and monitors.
science is only for building tech. and the consequences of that tech can be seen all around us. the planet and societies are fucked up. shiny and comfortable, but artificial
also youre the one that talks about feelings and spits insults. im as calm and rational as it gets.
begs the question. are you happy with your life? what answers bring gps or a car to your life? how is a car more than a hand axe, albeit more sophisticated?
do you know what a spiritual mirror is? because everything you throw at me is actually meant to yourself.
im not wasting time, im training rhetoric. its also not liberal logic, but simple materialism. Humanities are looong past this.
also someone might get something from this convo
people praised trees and rocks seeing them as manifestations of nature with powers, having spirits and essence demigods.
people think their monitor may be cool. charts it.
yes you repeated your dumb fucking quote and it didn't get any less dumb round two.
I talked about feelings when I mentioned science and academia? you are an unstable mess and it shows. you are mentally deteriorating and now trying to claim its all me.
read your own stuff and cut the insults, makes it only tougher to read.
"its why you drive a car, its why you use the device you are typing this on, its why we have gps and we know lead shouldn't be in paint and gasoline. time and time and time again science and the scientific method has shown to work and give us answers and allow us to make progress"
thats science religion my friend and its only adding to my argument, that science equals tech.
science didnt bring YOU and ME into existence tho.
tell me what is love, what is your purpose in life?why do you like the one person and not the other? why do people perform arts? whats the driving factor of life in general? you seem to have found all the answers in science
its not tough to read. the issue is you don't actually address anything. you make massive proclamations like evolution is wrong and provide no evidence.
yes it adds to your argument, in that science gives us progress and religion nothing. thank you for conceding.
since may not have created me, but it gave us the understanding of how I came about. and its far better than your sky daddy.
Ha im about to get "its all cause god" nonsense
fast answers
-love is chemical reactions in the brain. can you show me any feelings that are not?
-my purpose is whatever I give it. whether its playing soccer, mastering carpentry or whatever I choose. and NO I don't need a sky daddy to give me an "ultimate purpose". anymore than soccer needs am "a god of soccer to give soccer matches an ultimate purpose"
-im a social animal. why do some dogs like some not others? social interactions are complex and based in our nature and upbringing.
-people preform art because they enjoy it. why do they play soccer? make model aircrafts? humans tend to do what gives them joy and avoid pain.
- there doesn't have to be a "driving factor for life" in terms of god.
you are so dumb. stick to your book and sky daddy to give you the answers that feel good. on the side seek mental help.
okay, now i pity you. your life must feel boring and empty. do you play videogames a lot or how do you escape? always chasing the next dopamin hit. oh, modern man, what did they do to you. I dont adress anything you said, because my sources proofed you wrong long time ago. you just refuse to educate yourself. heck, even the greek had a better understanding already.
but i was like you in my 20s, so there might be hope. The difference between you and me is tho, that i always noticed something is off in the materialistic worldview. It just cant be a clockwork and it isnt. Vaccuum fluctuations proved that. Also irrational numbers. there: science
you never grew past whole numbers it seems, thats why you call me insane.
but life is irrational, just like maths.
The mind and heart needs to develop by experience. Question is, do you have the time to wait and learn from life, the conspiracies say you wont. But that in itself might be a conspiracy to monger fear. Everything is corrupted.
God is not a skydaddy, he is in us. Hes the reason you dont just commit sucide and he gave you a purpose. even if its only to engage this convo. I enjoy it
yes only horrible atheists "chase the next dopamine hit".. by having hobbies and interests like carpentry or soccer... you are an idiot.
your sources "proofed" shit all.
maths isn't irrational. maths is one of the few things that you can "prove" since it is actually rationally consistent with provable answers.
"God is not a skydaddy, he is in us. Hes the reason you dont just commit sucide and he gave you a purpose. even if its only to engage this convo. I enjoy it"
Implying I should commit suicide. reported. nothing like hypocritical Christians spreading 'LOVE". it seems to be something you think about
”Angus George Dalgleish, 72, is a professor of oncology at St George’s, University of London, best known for his contributions to HIV/AIDS research and is one of the most sought-after doctors in London.”
So, to your way of thinking, he’s a “crackpot”? Gotcha!
”Dr. Robert Malone discovered in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection when he was at the Salk Institute in 1988, and he subsequently invented mRNA vaccines, which are being used over 20 years later to combat the spread of the coronavirus.”
Just another “crackpot”?
”The corona vaccines are ineffective and responsible for the increased number of cancer cases, warns pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole. Data from his vaccinated patients and data sent to him by oncologists show that the vaccines disrupt the immune system. Cole also said that the all-cause mortality rate is higher in vaccinated people.”
Another “Crackpot”?
”After Dr. Cole spoke out about the risks of the covid vaccine, ‘numerous’ oncologists contacted him. The doctors reported they are “seeing the weirdest cancers, and cancers that we have been able to keep in check and treat, taking off like wildfire – going stage 2, stage 3, stage 4, just like that.”’
”this is why we make fun of you. you are so dumb you don't know how dumb you are :s
Here we go, folks. Another case of the “pot calling the kettle black”. Who’s the “dumb” one here? HAL9000 backed this Illogical Leftist into a corner and others have ceased replying to this damn narcissist trolling jerk. So what does he do? He trolls until he finds someone to insult. He believes I’m an easy target for his illogical reasoning. My post is almost 2 weeks old, but since others are scraping him off their shoes (💩) and are no longer giving this obnoxious POS due diligence, he decides once again to attack me. He’s nothing but a disgusting LITTLE tripe.
yes he backed me into the corner by saying such gems as
"only a few are blessed and the great filter is already set in motion. i assume you are vaxxed.."
""science" is nothing but a house of cards"
"real education is only to be found in philosophy and math"
"let me tell you,if you cant understand the path, then you dont understand the destination either.
"
"don't get me started on evolution"
"science is only for building tech. and the consequences of that tech can be seen all around us."
"da god did everything"
"the only thing stopping people from committing suicide is god"
I am amazed your read his nonsense and thought "nailed it, this guy gets it" . if he is dumb that makes you a barely functioning individual. please don't reply unless its to apologize for your illness
“The cancer specialist of more than 30 years writes that the link between Covid vaccine and “blood clots, myocarditis, heart attacks, and strokes is now well accepted, as is the link with myelitis and neuropathy.”
These maladies be damned! Off with their heads! The jab of the vax has to be done!
Kindly illuminate one case of someone being forced to take the vaccine or booster. This "professional" probably should be more careful about publicly exposing their bias nuttery.
Psychopath people would not kill people who go along with their lies. It would not be good for psychopath people to make it so the only people who exist on earth are psychopath and the people who do not believe the lies of psychopath persons.
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE AND THIS SITE FOR PROMOTING/SUPPORTING THIS
thegatewaypundit . com
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The paper something is written on is not the analogy,
the corporation that published the newspaper is.
Why do you spend your life trying to foist lies on people?
Everyone thinks their educated. In reality, we're all just trying to figure things out.
A lot of educated people believed we were heading for a new ice age in the 80's, didn't happen.
Other educated people thought Y2K would lead to the massive failure of computer systems, weapons, and society. It didn't happen.
Some educated people claimed covid was going to be exceptionally deadly like the black plague. It's not.
It's okay to be wrong and adjust your opinions. I took the vaccine and felt awful on the second dose. I was fine after two days. My employee was forced to take the vaccine after having covid twice and it caused Anaphylaxis. She's fine now. It's not 100% safe or deadly. It's a medicine.
Anti-vaccine and pro vaccine would do everyone a favor and stop villifying each other. Y'all got points and blindspots. It's okay.
”Everyone thinks their educated. In reality, we're all just trying to figure things out.”
A very wise reply! 👏🏻👏🏻 Thanks for putting us in our place! 🙇🏼♀️ Those who are pro-vaccine will lean toward “educated” people who are in favor of the vaccine. Those of us who are anti-vaccine will lean toward “educated” people who are against the vaccine.
It’s known as a Mexican Standoff:
“A situation in which no one emerges a clear winner.”