So why did 9/11 happen?
What was the motive? And don't give me the "They hate us because of our freedoms " bs excuse.
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To get rid of the WTC, and all records of the "lost" 1 trillion dollars Donald Rumsfeld tlaked about earlier that year(WTC7). WTC towers were needing a 5 billion+ exterior renovation, and the buildings were not turning any sort of profit enough to cover the costs. Rather than put the city in that kind of a financial disaster, the decision was made to profit off their destruction when they caught wind of Bin Laden's attack plan. Not only did they do nothing to stop it, they helped it along and allowed it to happen.
There was everything to gain from the event, and almost nothing to lose. The ultimate false flag.
They armed bin laden faction in afganistan to fight then communist Russia in 1979 and one of the failed bombers of WTC in the 90s was friends with the CIA.
shareShort answer... Islam. Religious nutters are capable of doing extremely stupid stuff like this. It was a group of idiots that were led astray and thought they could get into heaven by killing innocent people along with themselves.
No one is to blame other than the sick disease minded fools that carried out that attack.
It's pretty impressive they were able to pull off such a feat by hijacking the planes, killing the pilots, controlling the plane and were able to find New York. And fool the US government and circumvent air security-related protocols. An attack like this would never be able to happen today (I hope).
I read a report long ago that people were still able to smuggle dangerous goods through TSA. Yikes.....
""An attack like this would never be able to happen today (I hope)""
I think it will happen again, the US gov (mostly democrats) think we "must" let more people into this country that are from that region. And if we say not to, then "it's racism".
It's almost like they don't care that much if it does happen again, just as long as they can create more laws like the patriot act, they won't do much to stop it. Which again, is why I don't think it's wise to depend on the gov to keep you safe. People have to come up with ways to protect themselves.
Plus, I don't really blame the Bush admin for not doing more to prevent it. As far I know, it wasn't like they had inside information on what type of attack it was going to be. Even if they did, how would they know when and where it would happen? Were they supposed to shut down all flights on that day??? Detain all muslims at airports? The democrats would've lost their collective shit if they did this...
To be honest, mid-east countries were probably lucky the response from the US wasn't greater than it turned out to be. After all, they dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to end WWII, it was a bit surprising that they didn't do the same in the mid-east after that attack.
To be honest, mid-east countries were probably lucky the response from the US wasn't greater than it turned out to be. After all, they dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to end WWII, it was a bit surprising that they didn't do the same in the mid-east after that attack.
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Serious about what? The US goverment has done it before. 9/11 was worse than pearl harbor.
shareThere isn't the remotest possibility that dropping nukes in the Middle East in response to 9/11 could ever be an option.
Apart from the fact that times have changed since WWII, the attack on Pearl Harbor was sanctioned by the Japanese government during a time of war. Under those circumstances, retaliating with a couple of nukes might be understandable (not condonable, but understandable).
9/11 on the other hand was executed by a bunch of rebel terrorists without endorsement from the Saudi government. Nuclear retaliation would be wholly senseless, inappropriate and could never even be an option.
Says you... I can tell you upfront, tactical nukes were on the table, they could have been used to take out Bin Laden but the gov decided it was better to go cave to cave. Which, I can't say I totally agree with. And in the aftermath, it turned out to be a 20 year war when it should have been 2 years tops.
Of course, it's not likely they would have done this, no one really wants to use nukes now days. But if anyone would ever use them, I'm betting on the US gov, because they're done it before.
I highly doubt that the US would use nukes as a first strike option anytime soon. That would justify the nuclear weapons programs of countries like North Korea and Iran; and it would basically give the go-ahead for other nations like Russia to use them against Ukraine, or Israel against its many enemies. A nuclear free-for-all is the last thing the US wants, so no, even tactical nukes could never be a serious option.
share"To be honest, mid-east countries were probably lucky the response from the US wasn't greater than it turned out to be. After all, they dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to end WWII, it was a bit surprising that they didn't do the same in the mid-east after that attack."
I doubt that would happen. Doesn't the US have business deals with the middle east? Especially Saudi Arabia.
Dropping nukes on the middle east would cost US money.
I would not doubt that some of those americans who are sympathetic to thier ideology can be persuaded to execute domestic ccattacks
Msybe a little money here a few votes there
No one is to blame other than the sick disease minded fools that carried out that attack.
Well theres also the ones that planned it , the ones that put them up to it ,
and the "Clerics" that promote the whole extremist violent ideology as a whole.
True dat... I would include them as well.
shareShort answer is Bill Clinton did not kill Osama when he had the chance.
shareSaddam Hussein "meddled with the primal forces of nature" when he sold Iraqi oil for Euros and not Dollars.
https://archive.globalpolicy.org/nations/sovereign/dollar/2003/03oil.htm
Hussein had to go, and 9/11 was the strategy.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/223742
"US President George W. Bush yesterday called Prince Abdullah, the regent, by telephone to reaffirm the "eternal friendship" between the United States and Saudi Arabia. The president played down the anti-Saudi campaign in the United States and said such talks did not reflect the strength and solidity of Saudi-US ties.
"It only reflects the opinion of the person who said it and it cannot affect the eternal friendship between the two countries," the Saudi Press Agency quoted Bush as saying."
Osama bin ladin released a video at the time explaining the demands were for the us to get their ass out of the middle east,
I don't know why people mske all this stuff up about them hating our freedoms,
They don't have the military power to take down theunited states as a whole but we were still fighting so they chose a soft target
we got involved in foriegn affairs that did not concern us and were attacked because of it
The big question is, why did Osama bin Laden do that?
If he did that, how did he do it? Why did he do it.
Where was the money specifically from?
These questions have never been solved, or if they have
the news media, AS USUAL, is doing a dirt poor job of doing it or proving it.
But, it's an important question though.
Americans get the country, and the government, and the lifestyles they demand,
or that is the theory, that if one were to think is true might ask - why Americans
pick the crap we get? And can we really say we pick it or just do not get any
real ideas of choice offered to us? We get mostly distractions from the media,
and dupes planted in our local lives. We get the increasingly malicious technology
of mass control.
Both compared to other countries and compared to each other, we Americans
are some of the most poorly treated citizens of any country. And this is rubbed
in our faces while we call ourselves the richest country in the world. Why?
Well, just factually and pragmatically, one thing is that just take the last 20
years but it is true of the last century that most of the state's money as
collected by the government and the corporations most entangled with the
government - all that money is basically stolen from Americans - and invested
in enslaving Americans more with debt and healthcare, and financial, political,
and military adventures abroad that hurt everyone but a vanishingly small elites
tied directly into the corporat-ocratic junta.
ObL was just one facet / channel of a massive global media mindfuck that
mis-informs, mis-educates and mis-focuses massive numbers of people to
avoid any class solidarity, or real understanding of class being the political
issue, not minorities of one type or another. The goal is to prevent any
political progress, or measurement of progress to inform people.
I thought the OPs question was what was the reason behind the 911 attack not what conspiracy theorists want others to believe
Starting from the position that terrorist attacks actually happen is seems reasonable given the ops dismissal of them just hating freedom, in which case there is a them who are the terrorists
> And don't give me the "They hate us because of our freedoms " bs excuse.
Why is that?
Why shouldn't anyone be able to float any theory they can defend.
I think short work would be made of that theory, so there is no need to mention it.
Also, it is only fair, if you pose a question to others, that you give your opinions.
Otherwise it is more of a scam than a forum.