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If you oppose gender affirmaiton surgery for trans people...


Then you need to be against things like tattoos, breast implants, getting a baby ears pierced and circumcision. Otherwise you are being hypocritical, in fact worse, because gender affirmation surgery is medically necessary while those other things are merely cosmetic.

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“Medically necessary” lmao!

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Major health organizations consider it so.

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Not for children, or people in a mentally/psychologically unreliable state, and especially if the choice is made by them.

Tattoos and breast implants are cosmetic luxuries. You don't want to compare to them if the idea is to confirm gender surgery as "medically necessary". And I have no idea what's the point of getting baby ears pierced.

Tell me about circumcision. In what way is it necessary, and why would it prove gender affirmation surgery to also be necessary?

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I didn't say that circumcision, I said it is cosmetic just like the other things I mentioned. What is medically necessary is gender affirmation surgery.

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So why bring up all that cosmetic crap?

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Because the people opposing gender affirmation surgery call it bodily mutilation yet they don't oppose "that cosmetic crap" which should be considered bodily mutilation by them since they are of a similar nature. Double standards.

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Getting tattoos is not comparable to getting your breasts and dick chopped off, and neither is ear piercing, not that I have any idea why do it on BABIES.

I don't know what the potential dangers are to breast implants if any, or the reversibility, but unless I see some real health benefits, it's easy enough to conclude not to give it to minors.

And I still don't know what's the purpose of circumcision, especially if that purpose is cosmetic like you said.

In any case, not only are you getting examples that are more minor and probably even safer and using them to justify something pretty f-cking extreme, but you're also comparing something recreational to something that is argued to be life-saving medical treatment.

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"And I still don't know what's the purpose of circumcision"

Religious/cultural custom, Jews for example do it.

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It's for hygeine. You don't want that smeg!

And most chicks I've found prefer circumcised men.

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For adults, knock yourself out. It's your pecker, cut it off if you want to. Just leave the kids the hell alone.

The "medically necessary" bit is laughable though.

I'm mostly for minding my own business. If only liberals could do the same.

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"The "medically necessary" bit is laughable though. "

But it is, the depression, harm and suicide rates of people with gender dysphoria that don't undergo surgery is quite well established as is the improvement experienced by those that do.

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The surgery increases depression and the likely hood of suicide. Because they’re mentally ill and need psychiatric help. Not surgery recommended by those with profit motives.

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Vast majority of trans people who have undergone surgery disagree.

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If you want to kill yourself, you're mentally ill. If chopping your dick off makes you NOT want to kill yourself, you're REALLY mentally ill.

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My tattoos don’t smell like shit or have blood and shit oozing out of them. I also don’t have to dilate my tattoos or scoop clumps of hair out of them.

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What are you talking about?

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If you don't know then you're proof that some people still need helmets and water wings when they eat a bowl of soup.

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What you are talking about is something that will inevitably improve as science advances. You just find it "icky" and suddenly think that is somehow a valid argument.

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i gather from that that some people have to dilate or scoop clumps of hair out of something. what is it?

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The deformed monstrosity of a gash that's left behind when they transition from male to "female"

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I'm glad I asked 🤢

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Am I better than or worse than you for me knowing exactly what he was saying LOL. 🤔🤔😂😂

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🤢🤮

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And, when they dig up a Trans Person's skeleton in 100 years, they will still identify it as either male or female. 💀

"It's not nice to fool Mother Nature!"

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That doesn't matters, actually.

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Did you read about the woke group trying to tell archeologists not to define ancient bones as male or female -- because we don't know what they identified as? ☠💀
TRUE STORY!

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Sure but that has nothing to do with this subject.

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Awww it didn’t like what it heard. Poor gender confused person…

Now goes by was/were

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Where the dude who started this topic?

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It deleted its account apparently.

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That one kept playing Devil's Advocate. One post would be anti-woke and then the next post would be uber woke. I'm surprised that he deleted though because he was on quite often.

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When did it become medically necessary to role play? You can still pretend to be the opposite sex without having to go through with it, just that it makes it harder to make people believe you (still does for most trans that half-arse it).

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