Can anyone provide a single shred of strong evidence for
their god? there is so many angles people can take it'd be best to provide one single point and argument. I normally get "but look at the trees". I need something better than that
shareIt's called faith. No one can give it to you. Seek with all your heart and you will find.
P.S. You already operate on faith.
It's called faith. No one can give it to you. Seek with all your heart and you will find.
and the muslims tell me they have faith Allah is one the true god. while the jews say "no I know with all my heart Yahwe is the true god! the protestants tell me the catholics have it all wrong and catholics are just pope and idol worshipers but THEY have the true interpretation of Christianity. while the Christians tell me protestants are ignoring gods will on social issues and have ignored gods will in favour of modernizing.
so how do I discern between which religion has "true faith" in all these situations and who is following the REAL god, and which are wrong? as Hitchens said they cant all be true, as they contradict each other in fundamental, foundational ways, but they could all be untrue.
P.S. You already operate on faith.
p.s. no I dont. name one example. I don't blindly cross the street and say "I trust in faith ill be oaky". I take in observational evidence and look both ways. when I go to the doctors I dont say "well he will just pray and my faith will heal me!". I know medicine has come along way, backed up by studies and science to treat illness with the best possible treatments we can develop. based on evidence, not faith.
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Believe what you want. Seek or don't seek. It makes no difference to me and I have no interest in "proving" what I believe to you.
You have faith that what you intrinsically believe is true.
I dont believe what I want. I believe as many true things as possible and as few false things as possible. and what is true is "that which comports with reality".
I believe crossing the road is safe because
1. I take in observational data no car is coming
2. every other time ive taken in the same data no car is coming I have crossed unharmed (inductive reasoning)
3. I know physics exist and cars dont simply "teleport and pop into existence" to mow down unsuspecting pedestrians.
nope I dont.. faith is the reason given when you dont have evidence. because if you had good evidence, you wouldn't need faith. I dont have faith, I have evidence
you dont have to convince me what YOU believe. you have to convince me why I should also believe that and care.
you are falling apart here. anyone who reads this will see this is an absolute one sided intellectual slaughter.
Hahahahaha!! You're pathological. The only reason you started this thread and the only reason you engage with people in general is to assert that you're right. That's what's known as a character flaw.
Now, you'll come back with how I'm wrong and how I'm "falling apart" and how you're "intellectually slaughtering me" and whatever other inane insults you can come up with in hopes of impressing people with how "right" you are.
Your desperation is pathetic and you're a joke.
"The only reason you started this thread and the only reason you engage with people in general is to assert that you're right"
in the title I ask for "anyone provide a single shred of strong evidence for their god".and you scream. "have no interest in "proving" what I believe to you."
so why are you here?
I dont assert im right, I ask for evidence. thats how a logical person is convinced. and you scream basically "I won't give you evidence!"
you are a perpetual victim. its like somone asking for data on birthrates, and you say "I wont provide you with that!!!!!! you just want to claim you are right!"
lol you are falling apart. im not right because I claim it. im right because you cant support your assertions.
I asked for how I have faith, you gave me nothing. I ask for evidence for god, you say "I won't give you anything"
theres no desperations. theres me asking for evidence. and then theres you whinnying I asked for evidence, and crying the rules are too hard.
try again little crybaby. the intectual slaughter continues.
"WAHHHHH YOU HAVE FAITH TOO!!!!!! wahhhhhhhh!!!"
demonstrate this crybaby
Hahahaha! You can't make this stuff up!!
Now hit me back like my good little bitch.
P.S. What do you hope to accomplish by sending me private messages with more of your same attention seeking rhetoric?
Like I said, you're pathetic and a joke.
yes you cant make this stuff.. that people as for facts and evidence. how shocking................. and that they call you out for whining about having to provide evidence, in a post titled "provide evidence"
the only little bitch is you, which is demonstrated with every post where your whine and cry and dont provide evidence.
hyes I encouraged you to keep going. you are possibly the dullest debater on here. you just whine, at least others try
so name 1 thing I take on faith. ill wait little coward
Moron. My first post was a direct and relevant response to your OP. You're just too dim to understand.
yes and yet christians still claim they have evidence (and faith). its my post. I can ask what I want.
so. Moron. I asked you based on your first point where I " already operate on faith."
I also demonstrated the issues with faith and "true faith". which you had no answer to. instead you IMMEDIATELY started to play the victim.
go cry bitch. its what you are best at. perpetual whining victim who cant answer anything
Victim? You should maybe try your hand at stand-up comedy! That's some funny shit!
We don't know a lot more then we do know. If someone told you about radiation, microwaves, bacteria, etc., etc., etc., 300 years ago, you'd be behaving the same way. Show me proof! Waaahhh! I'm intellectually slaughtering you! Waaahhh. I'm riiiiight!! Waahh!
Grow up, little bitch.
I'm once again growing bored with winding my little bitch up, so I hope you come up with something worthwhile, but you never do.
"We don't know a lot more then we do know. If someone told you about radiation, microwaves, bacteria, etc., etc., etc., 300 years ago, you'd be behaving the same way. Show me proof!"
THIS HAS TO BE the most retarded thing you've ever written.. We didnt know about things, before we discovered them... thats some deep level thoughts. 300 hundred years ago id be behaving what way? where I ask for evidence? yes believe it or not people would and still do ask for evidence. HAHAHHAHA this comment just disproved your nonsense clown. what a self own
"Grow up, little bitch."
I have grown up. I expect evidence. I dont believe what just feels good. im no longer a little child. unlike you
"I'm once again growing bored with winding my little bitch up, so I hope you come up with something worthwhile, but you never do."
in other words, here comes the cop out and excuse to run away after being utterly destroyed. aww the sad loser has nothing, not on here, not in real life. you are a little bitch I know :)
You didn't let me down. You came up with more of your usual drivel.
Yes. Any sane person would ask for evidence, but those same sane people would not dismiss something out of hand because of lack of evidence because they would know that just because there was no empirical proof that radiation existed, didn't mean it didn't.
You are not sane and you're not looking for proof. You're looking to "be right" no matter what.
You know God's existence can't be proven and nothing could make you happier. It gives you free reign to be "right", even though you could very well be wrong.
yes the drivel of "demonstrate your claims, provide evidence". such drivel LOLLL>
Yes. Any sane person would ask for evidence, but those same sane people would not dismiss something out of hand because of lack of evidence because they would know that just because there was no empirical proof that radiation existed, didn't mean it didn't.
yes they would dismiss it. if you cant demonstrate something, I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE YOU. welcome to science 101 clown. its just a claim. if you cant show it, why should I believe.
here ill demonstrate it. "I have a dragon in my room, but he's invisible, cant be touched or felt and no way to test hes real". do you believe me?
You are not sane and you're not looking for proof. You're looking to "be right" no matter what.
LOL. I ask for proof. you whine like a bitch how you won't provide any, just have faith. then now claim "I dont want proof"
you are dumb as hell. how do you remember to chew food?
hahaha yes it makes me soooooooo happy to destroy clowns like you :). how could I be wrong when my position on god is "I do not know?"
retard strikes again!
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Look, junior. You know as well as anyone with even a modicum of sense, you didn't start this thread looking for any "evidence" which is why I mentioned faith, and as expected, you railed against that. You're looking to argue so that you can assert your false sense of superiority and your pathological need for validation.
You set forth an argument that can't be won or lost by anyone in the world, for the sole purpose of belittling others. You have a pathological need to "destroy clowns like me", which is further evidenced by your compulsion to falsely brag about doing so. If you did truly "destroy clowns like me", it would be self evident and you wouldn't need to brag about it. More evidence is that you privately message me to further claim that you "destroyed me", an anonymous "idea" on the internet. Why? Because you can't, in the real world because everyone knows you're a blowhard and a joke.
My guess is you have few if any friends, no wife/girlfriend or kids.
Stop thinking it's "everyone else".
You cannot belittle me, no matter how many stupid names you call me and you can't "destroy" me with your intellectual dishonesty because I see right through you.
which I destroyed your nonsense on faith. and you couldn't provide a single example of what I have faith in.
falsely brag? the conversations here for all to see. you flailing around, whining and not answering.
". If you did truly "destroy clowns like me", it would be self evident and you wouldn't need to brag about it. "
not how it works clown boy :) damn you really need to take some classes in philosophy, logic and argumentation in particular clown.
you are having a mental break in this post. let all your self projection out :) its good for you. its healthier to do this than end up on the news.
soo as we both saw you cant prove anything. and you ran away from your lies about me having faith. :) utterly destroyed
You're such a dumb ass. I have no interest in proving anything to you, as I said earlier. Believe what you want.
Everyone has faith including you. Lying about it won't change that.
You're sooooo desperate to "win". It's pathetic.
lol you have no interest all of a sudden, because I rebutted your nonsense every single time.
nope I dont believe just what I want. Im not like you, I dont need to believe things that give me comfort because im so weak.
"Everyone has faith including you. Lying about it won't change that."
NAME ONE THING CLOWN. I love how you threw a fit when I disproved your nonsense below. the problem is you are dumb. and you work under the assumption everyone else is as dumb as you.
Im not desperate. I am objectively winning here. ive rebutted your nonsense. while you go into an unstable spiral.
No. You are desperate and it's pathetic.
shareso what do I have faith on rat? stop changing topics after I obliterated you
shareYou have faith on rat?
P.S. Glad I could wind you up again, little bitch.
I know you loser. anytime someone utterly destroys you, its "you are my bitch reply again!" or "im winding you up"
its a cop out to escape. its apparent to everyone. so again, what do I have faith on rat? name one thing. or else concede and man up for once in your sad little life
Tell yourself whatever you want. Liar.
shareits a fact. its happening right now so again, what do I have faith on rat? name one thing. or else concede and man up for once in your sad little life
shareI'm done with you for now. You're nothing but a pathetic, desperate liar.
Now go ahead and tell yourself you "destroyed me" or whatever makes you feel like you "won".
I. Don't. Care.
name 1 thing that I believe on faith
You have faith that you don't live in a simulation.
You have faith that your existence didn't just now begin and that you actually experienced what is in your memory and that those memories weren't manufactured.
"You have faith that you don't live in a simulation."
nope not faith.....I dont know if I live in a simulation or not. I cant prove it either way. thats not faith. thats "I dont know". thats like saying "you have faith magic fairies dont exist!!". no I dont.. I dont know... literally the opposite of faith spazo.
"You have faith that your existence didn't just now begin and that you actually experienced what is in your memory and that those memories weren't manufactured."
they could have. again, I dont know and as of yet have no way to prove that did or didnt happen.
again. that isnt faith.
wow. you just may be retarded. how are your posts getting MORE ignorant and stupid? I thought we hit bottom of the barrel already
Me - I dont know. demonstrate it and I will believe with a level of confidence equal to the evidence
you - I know I know I know. because I have faith i know! demonstrate it? I dont have to I just know cause I believe it and have faith
Does God exist?
P.S. You're a liar about not having faith. I don't know if I live in a simulation, but I have faith that I don't. Same as you.
"Does God exist?"
I dont know. I cant demonstrate he/it does or does not. Can you?? with objective verifiable facts or tests that can be replicated? that prove to a high degree of confidence he does? if your answer is "faith" well ia already showed the issue with that in my jews, muslims, protestant and catholics example.
"You're a liar about not having faith. I don't know if I live in a simulation, but I have faith that I don't. Same as you. "
thats not faith in my case you dumb fuck.i dont have faith we don't or do. I DONT KNOW and cannot demonstrate we do or do not. wow you are actually retarded.
You're not fooling anyone. Liar.
shareLOLLLLL the little bitch is breaking down hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha
you are flailing hard here clown. yes im not fooling anyone by...... taking a skeptic agnostic position of "I dont know". Probably the most common position now amongst the atheist/agnostic community online. compared to the past atheist position of "god doesnt exist"
please stop projecting your own stupidity and ignorance on me.
What do you think you're actually accomplishing here? You're the joke I've been laughing at since your first liar post you made, which incidentally, you won't post a link to because you would be exposed as the liar you are.
sharegood one!!! you are running away now from the subject and trying to change it. I owned you here sooo badly. sad little bitch
sharePretty half assed dodge there.
shareI dont need to dodge anything. I rebutted your nonsense about me having faith.
why would I dodge when I just won?
I won't post a link cause id be exposed? im literally the only one of us two, who made an entire thread about that exchange. then asked you to do it. then shared the link to it multiple times.
"P.S. You're a liar about not having faith. I don't know if I live in a simulation, but I have faith that I don't. Same as you. "
HAHAHAHA I love how you project your own pathetic bitch self on to me. I demolished you here and now you are desperately changing the subject. go cry
SO again demonstrate one thing I have faith about clown :) im waiting bitch
Share your original post. I would but other user's history only goes back 6 months. Come on, chicken shit.
shareLOL I have 5 times. nice running though :) so what do I take on faith. stop running little rat
shareLiar! You have NOT linked your post where you lied about working for Leonardo Dicaprio.
shareI have in the past.... multiple times.. I literally started a thread about it.
but we both can see your desperation to change the topic. so again what do I have faith on clown? name one thing
No. You're a liar. Put up or shut up.
share"no you are!!!" you are a literal child mentally.
umm put up? like the 5 times I have already? including me starting an entire thread on it ?? and when I told you to you didnt? ive put up far far far more than you you little rat. I love how you just showed im more of a man than you while you are a scared little rat who cant actually deliver and cowardly tells others to do so.
so for the 8th time what do I have faith on rat? name one thing. or else concede and man up for once in your sad little life
Liar. Put up or shut up.
shareagain I have 5 times. including making a thread. while you haven't once
you will always be a little coward bitch. goading others while never man enough yourself to do others.
so for the 9th time what do I have faith on rat? name one thing. or else concede and man up for once in your sad little life
No. You are a liar! You have NEVER linked your original post where you lied and said you worked for Leonardo Dicaprio, and your "pile up" thread which was just you doubling down on your lie, was an abysmal failure.
Come on. If you posted the link before (you didn't), post it again. "Destroy me" bro! Come on!
You have faith that people believe your lies. The don't though.
shareNo. You are a liar! You have NEVER linked your original post where you liar and said you worked for Leonardo Dicaprio, and your "pile up" thread which was just you doubling down on your lie, was an abysmal failure.
"NO YOU DIDNT LIAR!!"
1 second later
"YES YOU DID IN THAT THREAD!!!"
thanks for that self own. I didnt even have to do any work. it was great share
My god you're desperate. You didn't post the link in that thread and you know it! Quit trying to worm out of your lie, you pathetic, desperate LIAR!
shareyes... yes I did.....
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/62e02519a0590a6ac41c651b/MCs-actual-dumbest-comments
illa accept your apology whenever. you can do it in written form on this thread or in the PM. up to you
This in the link you posted:
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/620678b4ac86d617c749b134/Why-cant-conservatives-accept-scientific-consensus?reply=62068e63ac86d617c749b23a
That's NOT the original post where you lied about working for Leonardo Dicaprio.
Post that one! It's you chance to vindicate yourself and "destroy me".
You won't though because you're a chicken shit LIAR.
here ya go. you can apologize here or in a private message.
either way, man up for once you sad sack of shit
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/62e02519a0590a6ac41c651b/MCs-actual-dumbest-comments
What is actually wrong with you? I'll say it as plain as I can:
in probably my 10th comment ever on this site I joked and said "I work for Leonardo Dicaprio himself! he wants to know what normal people are like online. ill have to report to him one of my first encounters has not been pleasant"
That "10th comment ever" thread. Post a link to that one, or lick my balls.
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ummmm I dont have to do what you say rat. you said I NEVER posted a link. I did.
now I expect your apology here or in a PM. lying little rat
You're the rat and a lying, desperate worm.
Of course you don't have to post that link but you would if wanted to prove me wrong and prove that you aren't a LIAR.
Even now you're lying about what I said. I said
You have NOT linked your post where you lied about working for Leonardo Dicaprio..
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yes so I did post about it :) im glad you finally conceded I posted a link about you saying I lied about working for Dicaprio. finally the little rat admits it.
shareWe can do this all day if you want, LIAR.
You have NOT linked your post where you lied about working for Leonardo Dicaprio.
You know, I know and everyone knows I never asked for a link to a post about me saying you lied. You know, I know and everyone knows I've been asking for a link to where you ORIGINALLY SAID YOU WORK FOR LEONARDO DICAPRIO. Or to put it in your own words: "in probably my 10th comment ever on this site I joked and said "I work for Leonardo Dicaprio himself! he wants to know what normal people are like online. ill have to report to him one of my first encounters has not been pleasant"
Post a link to that 10th-ish post where you ORIGINALLY said: "I work for Leonardo Dicaprio himself! he wants to know what normal people are like online. ill have to report to him one of my first encounters has not been pleasant".
Is that clear enough for you? Post it. Prove me wrong! share