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Up there he would be in charge of how it is done himself. Down here the communist would say they will do it and keep most of the money for themself.
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Cool. It’s his money.
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I guarantee you have more than you need. You just don't have as much as some and that makes you jealous.
shareGreed, then, is just desire with the added adjective excessive. Wait a minute, isn’t that what we call ambition? So, who gets to determine what level of excessive desire becomes greed? If you call someone greedy, you are, in essence, calling them a thief. However, if they haven’t stolen anything, then they have not taken more than they deserve. If you are still calling them greedy, then the problem lies within you. If you don’t like the amount of possessions or wealth someone has, then perhaps you are envious. If that’s the case, then you calling that person greedy is all about you projecting your envy.
shareKeep up, bud.
"On Sunday, Musk tweeted, “If WFP can describe on this Twitter thread exactly how $6B will solve world hunger, I will sell Tesla stock right now,” he said about Beasley’s assertion.
In a follow-up tweet, Musk added that the UN’s plan must include “open source accounting, so the public sees precisely how the money is spent."
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/01/elon-musk-tells-un-food-chief-hell-spend-6-billion-to-fight-hunger.html
That's like getting mad at people for eating what's in their icebox instead of giving it to all the starving and homeless. Why are you concerned about other people's money?
shareHe's envious. He wants, no, he deserves or is owed if not entitled to a slice of that pie without ever having to have worked for it.
shareElon Musk might be a productive guy, but he has not "worked" for his billions. No one can work for that amount of money, because the income by hours would be so ludicrous that even the most hardcore capitalist would finally see what's wrong with the current system of letting the wealthy get away with paying their fair share.
sharethis is true , business leaders "capture" the labour of workers
...but you start trying to explain all that you just get demonised as a dirty commie
Typical liberal, thinking they have the right to other people's wealth.
shareNot their wealth but their fair share in taxes.
share"their fair share in taxes."
Ah, the old liberal canard. "Fair share!"
Of course, you morons never say exactly what's a fair share. It's just more than they're paying now, no matter what it is.
From this link: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/total-provision-income-taxes
Tesla Income Taxes 2009-2021 | TSLA
Tesla annual/quarterly income taxes history and growth rate from 2009 to 2021. Income taxes can be defined as the total amount of income tax expense for the given period.
Tesla income taxes for the quarter ending September 30, 2021 were $0.223B, a 19.89% increase year-over-year.
Tesla income taxes for the twelve months ending September 30, 2021 were $490M, a 95.22% increase year-over-year.
Tesla annual income taxes for 2020 were $0.292B, a 165.45% increase from 2019.
Tesla annual income taxes for 2019 were $0.11B, a 89.66% increase from 2018.
Tesla annual income taxes for 2018 were $0.058B, a 81.25% increase from 2017.
How much in taxes did you pay in that time? What was your 'fair share' compared to Musk's?
Not to mention all the jobs that Musk created, and all those people are paying taxes also. Tax revenue that wouldn't exist if he hadn't been so successful.
You're a typical liberal, driven by class envy. You, and people like you, are the reason why dangerous ideas like communism take hold. share
To which I simply retort: You are the reason dangerous ideas like corporate welfare exist. Not "going to exist", but exist. The theoretical threat of Communism in the US is so far fetched, but the actual grip of a 1% mega rich corporate cabal, influencing major politics for decades now, is not on your radar. How so?
Also, you are confusing corporate taxes and personal taxes, again. Because tell me, why needa a person to have 152 billion dollars? Cause look over here:
"The ProPublica report alleged that Musk, who’s worth $152 billion, paid less than $70,000 in federal income tax in 2015 and 2017, and nothing at all in 2018. He did seem to have paid his due in 2016 when he exercised more than $1 billion in stock options. But his overall “true tax rate” for the five-year period between 2014 and 2018, calculated as the amount of tax paid divided by increase in net worth, is only 3.27 percent, much lower than an average American household."
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You're innumerate. First, there's a difference between the corporation and Elon Musk's personal income taxes. Second, you're only looking at one side of the equation here: The companies taxes went up (in the midst of the Trump tax cut), but how much did the company's income increase?
The effective corporate tax rate in this country is low. It's also weird you'd bring it up since conservatives are quick to assume it's something that gets fully passed on to consumers.
As you should know, Americans pay many different types of taxes, yet conservatives focus narrowly on the federal income tax. Most Americans pay more in payroll taxes (which are regressive).
"You're a typical liberal, driven by class envy."
This is a version of the ad hominem fallacy.
Wealth is socially created, not in a vacuum. In a technology economy, companies are granted *temporary* monopolies on ideas for what end? As the Constitution says, "for the progress of the arts and sciences." In other words, it is utilitarian.
I don't support a wealth tax -- it's a pretty dumb idea. I don't support an income tax either, which Zuck and Musk circumvent by taking low-interest loans on their stock portfolio/wealth. I support a progressive consumption tax: The people who take and use more things should have to pay more. A frugal billionaire could end up with the same tax rate as someone in the middle-class -- assuming they both have middle-class lifestyles.