Why are young people so easily seduced by the lies of communism?
Just wondering.
shareIt’s the entitlement mind-set. They expect to have everything in their 20’s which took their parents 30-40 years to achieve. They’ve been conditioned to believe they deserve it. Most don’t know what it means to sacrifice. Their parents are raising their kids while they free load. It began with LBJ’s Great Society Program when the government became the nanny from cradle to grave. Self-reliance withered on the vine. Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich’s congress brought some sanity back, but eventually the Dems destroyed the progress made.
shareGood answer.
shareThank you, but you can wager I will receive some flack over my reply! The truth always hurts.
shareOf course. Those who scream the loudest about being anti-fascist are always fascists themselves.
shareThe day that you are a purveyor of the truth is the day your obit appears in your local rag.
And even then it will contain lies because it will likely say what a good person you were.
Well, to be fair, it ain't easy as it was back then. The American dream is way harder to achieve than before. The wealth gap is also the widest it's ever been too. Most can't even afford a house these days let alone save up for one.
shareWe couldn’t either for several years. It was only when I went to work on the night shift did we start climbing out of the hole. Until I did we had no AC in Florida, no phone, no vacuum cleaner. We made do. We paid our bills before we ate. Also, back then girls didn’t run home when they got preggers. They got married. It’s been proven an intact family will less likely be in poverty. Parents don’t know how to parent, to instill self-respect & to have respect for others.
It started with the school lunch program only for those with low income. Then the free breakfast followed by an after school snack or meal. Now any kid can get a free meal regardless of income. Before the government took over kids took their lunch if they couldn’t afford to buy. Actually they preferred the lunch box or brown paper bag. In today’s times “mothers” pawn off their kids to be fed while they are sure to go to the nail salon. There’s a new boyfriend coming to visit!
So let me ask then since you had to suffer through this you think everyone else should have to also? Is everyone's life the same? Yes women usually would marry the person who they had a kid with. However how many families stay together that are dysfunctional? Staying with someone simply because you have a kid is not a good mentality to have if the relationship is unstable and dysfunctional. That has been shown to rub off onto the kid because the kid witnesses that type of dysfunction.
So you are anti Government it sounds? I am honestly asking.
Sorry, not going to debate you! 🙅🏼♀️Been there, done that!
shareFunny but you will continue debating Keelai, Ultraviolet etc. It is okay I found proving you wrong satisfying and educating you was loads of fun. I will continue to educate those as ignorant as you. That way there will be less like you in the world. The less people with your mentality the better.
shareI also will no longer debate “The Know-It-All” Keelai. I don’t debate Ultra...I comment. You have not proved me wrong! You have not educated me! Get over yourself! You sit there on your high horse demeaning anyone who disagrees with you. You are a pompous ass who falls into the same category as Keelai...an insufferable “Know-It-All”, and as such you are the ignorant one because you don’t realize it!
Of the 5 Behaviors of “The Know-It-All” this fits you perfectly:
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Usually, a know-it-all is so sure of their own knowledge that they tend to be condescending to the people around them. After all, they perceive everyone else as lacking in knowledge. When engaging in a conversation with a know-it-all, you are likely to find yourself feeling like you’re being talked down to.”
I did prove you wrong. You admitted it in another thread you had. Do not lie and attempt to backtrack on what you said. I can disagree with someone but not when like you they think they know everything. Yes I am condescending towards people such as yourself because you did it to me. I give what I get. Remember you were the one who threw the Russia thing at me when we were debating and I never have said one word about that on these boards. You deny, dismiss, deflect and or dumbfound. The reason you brought up Russia was because you had no other argument therefore you attempted to steer the debate in an area you felt you had control. Your attempt failed and now you are upset.
shareOh that! I’m not lying. I had forgot your petty little quarrel. 🙇🏼♀️ I was wrong. You were correct in pointing out some posters writing Chauvin wasn’t guilty. I had not seen those comments until you linked them.
BTW, I’m not upset. You mean zilch to me and I’m so very grateful I don’t know your pompous ass personally! I have enough on my plate in reality with which to deal. Your pettiness and holier than thou persona is just a gnat on MovieChat’s shoulder. 🤌🏻🪰
To which I do not believe you for one second. I think you are a bold faced liar. Had that been a left wing person making a claim like that you would have been like a fly to feces.
Oh you are upset it is quite obvious. The good thing is your ignorance is dying off and will not be missed. People are waking up and not taking the lies you attempt to feed them. The reason this escalated to begin with was when you accused me of buying into the Russia scandal out of nowhere. You deflected and that proves you are a big hypocrite.
I had a feeling the fangs and talons would come out when I wrote I had forgot about your petty quarrel with me. Your sarcastic reply made me recall. You see, I’m 78 and attempting to pack up a 2600 sq. ft. home by myself. I’m not as strong as I used to be and I haven’t been well. I’m alone now since my husband died of skin cancer last year, June 3 will be a year. I was his caretaker. I’m still trying to do repairs from Hurricane Zeta last October.
So, Mr.einsteinfountain, you will have to forgive my memory lapses which are occurring more frequently. I’m overwhelmed with stress to the point I flooded my kitchen 2 weeks ago. I turned on the kitchen faucet to hand wash some items, grabbed my dinner tray, quietly ate my dinner while watching the boob tube...all the while the sink runneth over. I also tripped over a packed box and did a header landing on one knee. I limped for 2 days, bruised all over.
I am not a liar. I forget...especially when it’s of no importance to me. I’m not relating this to garner empathy from you. None is expected. I’m explaining why I have reason to forget and to not be called a liar every time you reply to me.
Okay I am sorry all this has occurred. I am going to ask a simple question would you allow that same liberty to a left leaning person? Be honest.
shareIf I was aware of his/her circumstances most definitely! This is why I never mocked Biden, just posted remarks he’s made to show there is something wrong with him. Dementia, early stages of Alzheimer’s. I felt pity for him when he fell on the steps and relieved it wasn’t more serious. I didn’t understand at the time why someone didn’t bound up the steps to offer assistance.
My life long friend (63 yrs) and family are hard core Dems/Biden voters. We don’t discuss politics. It’s left at the door.
See but most people on here will laugh and make fun of something like that. Your boy RandallGraves actually mocked Chadwick Bosemen's cancer and laughed at it. A guy who has done nothing to him or anyone else gets mocked because he starred in Black Panther. Black Panther in his mind was overrated. Really because you disliked a film and thought it was overrated you are going to mock a person who lost the battle to cancer? I get it you thought it was overrated but seriously? It is why I cringe every time I see you standing behind him and agreeing with him. People like him usually do not care for the average man. They think anyone who struggles financially is lazy, a drug addict or living off welfare.
With as rigid as you are about politics on here I am surprised you can have a friends with that belief set. Some people are struggling because they are lazy but not everyone who struggles financially is lazy, on drugs or living off welfare. Just like how not everyone who is rich did it by hard work. Are there exceptions yes but to generalize it is ignorant. Do not raise minimum wage okay then what do we do about inflation? How long has minimum wage remained the same yet prices for things have gone up still.
Please link me to where Chadwick Bosemen's cancer/death was mocked. I searched, but could not locate.
shareI already attempted to share with you a link of him defending Chauvin but you for whatever reason could not see it. Okay lets try to do this with the one of him making fun of Chadwick.
https://moviechat.org/tt8466564/Obi-Wan-Kenobi/60899da5ba0d0e46065224fc/HAHA-Ewan-trashes-the-prequels?reply=60a86542b926ff2f5c08eee7
Here is his exact quote.
So go put your "force is female" shirt on, your pink pussy hat and slap your little dick to Black Panther. Too bad there won't be a sequel worth a shit. Wacancer forever LOL
It is near the bottom of the second page of that board.
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I’m happy I couldn’t see it. I wish I hadn’t seen it! Apparently I have someone on Ignore which would block this filth. The trouble is we think alike in politics. We have the same ideology, but this kind of language is not my cup of tea. I’m not a happy camper reading this. I would say it’s akin to Trump’s dialogue...you gulp...you cringe...you wish he wouldn’t use such language. Frankly, I’m embarrassed reading it as I was when Trump said “Grab ‘em by the *****!” I’m of the generation when locker room talk stayed in the locker room.
shareSee but this is the issue I have with you and people like you. You are validating people that are literal trash humans simply because they say some of the stuff you personally want to hear. Which to me shows desperate need for validation. I do not care which side of the spectrum someone landed on to make a jab like that would make me not want to be on the same planet as them much less have a conversation with them on here. Same ideology? As far as politics yes but I would hope you would not stoop to doing something like that. See though you guys want to act like racism does not exist, let me ask a question why is he so upset Black Panther got praised? With a comment like that it makes you wonder why he has such animosity to sink to that level.
Boseman was known for actually being a decent human who did a lot for society. People did not know he had cancer until he died because he did not want sympathy and kept it hidden. I understand not enjoying the film and thinking it was overrated but seriously? Remember though if we suspect he is racist we are playing the race card.
That also leads me to my next point. I constantly hear well I know Trump is foul mouthed and a bigot but I support his policies. What a sad state of affairs when someone must pick the lesser of two evils and act like that is cause to celebrate. That is like saying a film comes out and it is bad but it is better than another awful film. Well at least it was better than that other awful film. As if that is cause to celebrate... How about a candidate has a shred of decency and dignity beyond agreeing with his politics? Is that too much to ask?
You guys wonder why people can't get behind him. Seriously you want people to overlook this stuff? What is so annoying is if Obama got caught saying grab them by the ***** you guys would skin him alive. Rightfully so as well but there is a clear double standard. I have heard people make every excuse in the book for him saying that and how it is perfectly acceptable.
Personally I enjoyed the movie “Black Panther”. One of my favs from the MCU . I bought Phase 1, 2, & 3. I recently binge watched on Disney + all of them set in timeline order.
BTW, I felt sadness when Chadwick Bosemen died...such a waste and so young.
We are at the point of holding our noses when we vote. In today’s time there is no way in hell I would vote for a Democrat. No sir! As I said JFK couldn’t get elected today with the far left loons in power.
I enjoyed it as well. However there is a group of people like RandallGraves that can not stand a film like Black Panther got critical praise. One has to wonder why that one irks him so bad? The other films in the MCU have gotten critical acclaim why is that one such a sore subject for him? I wonder why? Hmmm?
So did I. I absolutely loved him and thought he was a great actor.
There is no way in hell I would vote for a republican. Especially when it is people like Trump? Yeah not a good look for your party. Both parties are just as corrupt as the other. I think it is foolish people act as if one party is so much better than the other.
” With as rigid as you are about politics on here I am surprised you can have a friends with that belief set.”
As I stated the “politics are left at the door". Their friendship which is like family means more to me. There’s no risk involved with debating, arguing, etc. with unknowns on MovieChat. I have everything to lose if I get into it with my friends, so we just cancel out each other’s vote.
So then on here are you really expecting to change anyone's mind? Honestly you sound like a closed minded person who will not budge on beliefs. So why come on here?
shareI’m not going to change their minds anymore than I’ll change mine. When it comes to politics I believe everyone is closed minded...as you are. I could ask you the same thing “So why come on here?” I believe we come on here to voice our thoughts to unknowns. To escape. To vent. To gripe about the politicians we don’t like. It’s OK if I cross swords with you...nothing lost...nothing gained. I can let loose, make someone angry to the point I’m called a “bold faced liar”, but all I have to do if I’m so inclined is to delete MovieChat, close my iPad and deal with more important things.
But, in reality we risk losing people we care about. If I had the same back & forth with family & friends
I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night. I could give a rat’s patootie if I never had dialogue with you again. You are an unknown to me. My dad was a hard core union Democrat, but the politics were left at the door.
There are and have been a hand full of posters who I would love to know personally. We lost a dear one over 3 yrs ago and we actually grieved...tears were brought to my eyes. We genuinely got to know this precious man’s persona. He would have been the same person in reality as he was on MovieChat’s board.
No I would disagree with you there. I actually had my perspective changed on the drug war by chatting with people online and listening to crime podcasts. I come on here to debate and are there things I am rather concrete in what I think sure but I honestly do not believe you have changed your perspective one iota. I do not think you have any interest in seeing another view. There is no consequence but it sounds like to me you need to iron that out with your family and friends. Part of having an understanding relationship is knowing and acknowledging differences. If you would lose a friendship over political discussions perhaps the friendship is not as strong as you think.
See but that is why this country is in a divide. No one talks or communicates they keep things bottled up and then antagonize people online. If I can't be honest with someone about how I feel or think then they are not worth having a relationship with.
How do you know he was good? I am not denying or smarting off I am just curious. I am sorry to hear we lost someone. Death of a decent human is always sad. I am sorry to hear that.
She is proudly partisan and happy to claim she has an Ideology like it's a birth right and not a decision. Over and over she says she has an ideology like it's a Given, it's written in Stone and she's entitled to it, not realizing it's an irrational bit of brain-washing to where information will not alter her outlook -- and she's proud and purposeful of it.
I can only shake my head and wonder where this country is heading if people are being earnest with this thinking.
It is this type of mentality which cripples the country. People can't call out corruption honestly they have to favor their side. This type of thing to me is mind boggling. Have you had past encounters with this user?
shareSeveral of us received letters from his girlfriend. Each one was composed from his words directed specifically to those of us who gave him comfort towards the end.
Arguing about politics brings nothing. The people I hold dear in my heart are more important. You sit there and judge me on how my relationships with family and friends need to be ironed out. I don’t need to “iron out” anything with them! It’s not important to me. “If you would lose a friendship over political discussions perhaps the friendship is not as strong as you think.”How dare you! How pompous you are!
You have my permission to debate and argue with others to your heart’s content! I value a 63 year friendship more than politics. I don’t think I like you. You aren’t worth one second of the people I’ve known for decades. You should be so lucky! I doubt it though. Now I am really pissed off with you lecturing me about my life...what little there is left of it.
This is my final reply to you so go have at it with someone else! I have much nicer poster pals elsewhere.
Well that is neat. I mean that honestly good on people for being good to him until the end.
Oh yeah but you are free to comment on whether George Floyd's family cares about him or not. Apparently it is important to you I can tell by your hostility on these boards. I stand by what I said if you can't be honest and open with people is that a true relationship?
I do not require asking you permission for anything. I don't need it nor want it. If you can comment on what a family you know nothing about thinks of their loved one being killed why is it so outrageous to lecture you? Anyway I do not want to end on a sour note. I am sorry I got uncivil. I honestly wish you live a good rest of your life. You have loved ones and friends that is more than most people can say.
See PM. Dewey 😇 was the soul of the General Discussion board. Damn, I miss him as others do.
shareAfter all the hateful carp you've left here, don't tell me you are sentimental over someone's passing. That's BS !!
sharewell said, I think they also are romanticizing the past, thinking it was better than it was...and I would also suspect kids are being brainwashed when they are younger and in college.
shareThe issue is people like you assume that the reason people can't afford their bills is because of laziness. You ever consider that sometimes people just can't make it and it has nothing to do with laziness or welfare?
sharecommunism is that everyone is equal, a doctor and a house keeper would make the same money. a lot of people are lazy, especially now, there are job shortages because people are making more money sitting at home then working. i dont want to work either but I do, i would love for the government to give me $600 a week for the rest of my life, it would be awesome.
the people that "truly" need help can get it, but people also take advantage of the system and collect social security unemployment because they are depressed.
McD's even helps people with college, but you have to try and apply yourself. go to college and get educated, but then again people want things given to them because they think they deserve it.
my dad and uncle grew up dirt poor, they both joined the military and got trained to fix airplanes, they both made a career out of it. my dad can still out work me any day, cause he had work hard to get out of poverty, I am lucky that he did that.
I see Mexicans working their ass off, building houses, roofing and road construction, house keeping, you hardly see white or black people doing those jobs anymore.
I know there are special circumstances where people need help, but its rare and there are resources out there they can take advantage of.
"I see Mexicans working their ass off, building houses, roofing and road construction, house keeping, you hardly see white or black people doing those jobs anymore."
Why you think that is?
People such as myself are not asking for everyone to make the same amount. That is what you automatically assume the second someone asks for more money or help. I do not want to work but I do as do many other people. Sometimes you can't make it working a full time job. Sometimes even working two jobs is not enough to make it.
No blatant lie. Are there people that take advantage sure but what is your solution cut off the people who need help because some people take advantage? Sometimes even with help you can't make it. You have bought into the lie that America feeds people. Work hard and life will be ok. If only that were always the case.
College a lot of times is not worth going to. It is another thing people have fed people in order to think they will make money by completing it. Just because you graduate college does not guarantee you will make money. There are plenty of people without degrees that make more money than people with degrees. Sometimes people are in the right place at the right time. College can make a difference sometimes but it does not guarantee you money or a career.
My mother never collected welfare and worked two jobs. We still lost the house despite her attempting to get help. Even while working 80 hours a week it made no difference.
It is rare people need help? Your ignorance is truly baffling. No sometimes no matter how much help you get or how hard you work it will not matter. We as people are not asking to live high on the hog we are simply asking for a chance at a fair life. Why is it someone working full time 40 hours a week or more can't afford a basic one bedroom apartment? Not a house a basic apartment. That is not how it should be.
80 hours a week🤣....so full of shit.
shareOh I know it is because it does not suit your narrative. You have no idea what goes on in my life. You have no argument go crawl back in your hole.
share80 hours a week at 10 dollars an hour is $3200 a month (btw, most fastfood places pay much more than that, and thats the bottom of the barrel) If you can't survive on over 3k a month, you are blowing money on habits, or living WAY outside your means. So either your mom was an idiot with the finances, or you are lying, you pick.
shareIs 10 dollars minimum wage? Back in the 90's or early 2000's or even now? Also I am sure you are smart enough to know that you do not keep every dollar you earn. Did you take into account taxes? Did you take into account going through a divorce with 3 kids, medical issues? So lets take your math into consideration. 3200 a month times 12 equals 38400 dollars. Not a bad salary right? Well now lets take out taxes because you were too dishonest to do so. What is 35% of 38400 it is 13440. Which makes a total of 24960. Which means it is 2080 per month. When you factor in house payment, groceries, kids and medical issues how far do you think that goes? Remember this going off the assumption you are making above minimum wage at 10 dollars an hour for both jobs. Want to bury yourself deeper or do you want me to stop now?
You are showing your ignorance or age. Everything you said is false logic. Sure wages were less in the 90s, but not much. Inflation has gone MUCH higher in that time than comparable wages, so her dollar was worth more then. Also, a single parent with multiple dependants pays almost NOTHING in income taxes, so wrong again. I think possibly your mommy misrepresented the situation to you, and you've simply assumed its true to this point, but there is nothing logical about what you are saying. And yes, perhaps a manufactured house is a better fit if you have children and lack enough skills to earn more than minimum wage. Again if she made that much SHE DIDN'T LIVE WITHIN HER MEANS. It sure as fuck isn't up to the taxpayers to provide a luxurious lifestyle. If you can't earn more, acquire better skills so you can, or expect to live in an apartment or trailer. I used to because a was an apprentice who didn't have skills. Now I'm at the top of my field and I have a nice house. If I'd kept my skill level at minimum wage, I wouldn't have a nice house. I'm guessing your mommy was shitty with the budget, because you absolutely could afford a house and the rest of the bills with that income if you didn't piss it away.
shareNo actually it is not. You attempted to imply minimum wage was 10 dollars. Minimum wage is not ten dollars now and when was the last time minimum wage changed? Since you wanted to be dishonest about minimum wage I figured it was perfectly fine with you to be dishonest about taxes. Now since you realize that I saw through it you are upset. Also you know what else you did not factor in? Medical bills. Do you know what medical condition my mom had? No you do not you are assuming you know. I know it is not up to the taxpayers to afford a luxurious lifestyle you idiot I never said it was. Truly a dense idiot like yourself would jump to that conclusion.
Sometimes acquiring more skills is harder than it appears. Sometimes people are stuck at a job and are actively trying to achieve better skills. While in the mean time they are struggling to make it. I own a house myself and a rather nice one. However unlike you I am not insensitive to people's struggles and actually care about the hard working man. Lol and again do you know what medical bills cost? Do you know what illnesses my mom had that were not self inflicted? If you don't then you can go ahead and STFU! It is time to wake up old man and realize that not everyone gets to have nice things by working hard. Hard work is good I do it all the time but it does not guarantee you will succeed in life. It should but it is not a guarantee. Anything else or we done here? You have proved your ignorance once again. So I guess I got my answer you want to keep burying yourself. So you want to keep going?
Now you're creating straw men because your argument is falling apart in your face. I never implied or said anything about minimum wage, something fast food places average well above in pay. Since your willing to lie to have something to refute, I stopped after the first sentence. I don't waste my time with lying fools.
shareNope I can pick up on an implication that is made. You assumed she made 10 bucks an hour at both jobs. You also did not factor in medical bills which was deceptive. You assumed I was lying or that she mismanaged money without knowing the full story of what was going on. I then pointed out your ignorance and you attempted to backpedal. Since that was your tactic I also threw in a tactic that did not tell the whole story. Annoying isn't it? It's okay though your mentality is dying off. I suggest you leave the country. So we done here then? I'm honestly tired of burying you I will call it here. What I find funny is watching you idiots trip over yourselves. Anyhow bye bye bud get educated.
shareBury me?🤣 I've owned your dumb ass every step of this argument. Awwww, isn't it cute how you play dumb with yourself to defend mommy. If she was so useless that she couldn't earn at least 10 dollars an hour, it was pretty dumb of her to spit out multiple children. Again, not the tax payers problem. Pass this on to your mom the next time you see her: if you are so useless you can't earn 10 bucks an hour, keep your legs closed so I'm not expected to pay for whinny brats like you.
shareHow cute you thought you actually had my mom pegged. Little did you know the only thing you could operate on was baseless assumptions. You know what is even funnier is you had no idea where we lived. It can be easier to make more money depending on your location. You still didn't address the medical issues lol. Way to dude step that man you are so smart just avoid points and consider it a win. Never have lived off of welfare and work very hard at what I do. Notice I don't make assumptions which are baseless that is your game. I can tell you are an ignorant idiot though based on what I see you post here. Baseless assumptions backed by nothing is a good sign someone has no argument and is losing the debate. So we done here or do you want to keep playing?
shareYou couldn't counter any of my facts about income, inflation or living within your means. The fact that you didn't even try says it all. You lost.
shareNope actually I did. You assumed she made 10 dollars an hour at both jobs. Then you didn't take into account medical bills that were costly. How can you live within your means if most of your cash is eaten up by medical bills? See you won't address this because you know it pokes a hole in your weak argument. How far you think three grand goes with kids house payment groceries on top of expensive medical bills? Since you have her pegged provide facts about where we spent our money. If you can't then you need to concede to making a baseless assumption.
shareAlso, just a little fyi. I've debated with intelligent people and not agreed with them, but the way you write and repeat phrases like they are some knock out bullet point tells me you aren't very bright, but you think you are. Don't worry, the smart people got this, that's why we DON'T have a socialist economy, yet silly fools like you think we should. I'm over trying to explain logic to a simpleton like yourself. Again, there is a reason intelligent people have higher levels of office and they don't implement policies like you'd like to see. It's because they are smart and you are not. I won't be replying anymore, because at this point I feel like I'm picking on a child.
shareYou got owned today I was happy to beat you down. If you need more I'm more than happy to give you more. Capitalism is perfect no flaws in that system right? Corporations have never exploited people or done anyone wrong. I'm done here you are another boot licker that eventually will be gone. There is peace in that honestly. Later bud.
sharecommunism is that everyone is equal, a doctor and a house keeper would make the same money.
The problem is people think thats what not voting republican means.
Policies like taxing the billionaies more , and having a liveable minimum wage ,
or not the same thing as russian stlye 'doctors and cleaners are paid the same'
I can recall when FHA/VA would acquire used homes, repair and paint them in order to offer them to low income families with a small down payment. The homes had the basics, working plumbing, working appliances, no AC, no carpet, just bare terrazzo floors. We looked at some, but could only dream. They were what everyone dreams about especially when living in a 10 x 55 foot mobile home with 2 young kids! We couldn’t afford the low monthly payments! No, it wasn’t easy back then either.
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