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Daunte Wright Incident


https://www.wsj.com/articles/minnesota-police-shoot-man-in-traffic-stop-incident-killing-him-11618202288
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/fatal-shooting-black-man-during-traffic-stop-sparks-protests-near-minneapolis/5DRBHRB2LNG6BJDWZIV2DOQ77Q/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56724798

1.) THIS HAS NOTIHNG TO DO WITH RACE!!!! It never does, so STFU with the race nonsense
2.) The cop screwed up bigtime and should lose her job, be charged with involuntary manslaughter, and the department civilly sued
3.) Yet again, a rightfully pulled-over suspect resisted arrest and created his own deadly situation
4.) Yet again, morons are rioting, destroying blocks worth of innocent businesses, instead of peacefully protesting in solidarity

All of these are simultaneously true.

For the perspective of an ex-cop (who happens to be black, which isn't relevant):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SKivqzLois

Previous thread loosely related to the overall situation:
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/604a86c0b6eeb763cc82d99d/The-Hard-Truth-About-Police-Shootings?reply=604c4fd360e35279fd2e7b7d

I'm just as concerned to the reaction to videos like this as the videos themselves.

The problem isn't guns. The problem isn't racism. The problem is the widespread delusion and corruption the once well-intended leftist culture has devolved into, engendered by a broad network of fearmongering, dishonest politicians and media that somehow needs to be systematically dismantled, if not outright destroyed for what it's doing to this country. The problem is also right-leaning groups digging into ever-deeper tribalism in reaction to this leftist extremism, furthering the divide instead of acting like the adult in the room, also spurred on by several, although outnumbered still potent, media outlets that view the world through a narrow-minded prism.

In other words, the problem with reactions to videos like this is belief and ideology.

On top of this, this happened for crying out loud:

https://ccxmedia.org/news/brooklyn-center-city-shake-up-city-manager-curt-boganey-fired/

If this doesn't highlight for you just how out of control mob justice has become, then you're probably part of that mob.

And it's people like this idiot and those who think and spout nonsense like her that spurs it all on:

https://nypost.com/2021/04/13/members-of-the-squad-condemn-daunte-wright-shooting/
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You: This has nothing to do with race.

Also you: Here's an opinion from a black cop who had nothing to do with the situation.

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Fair point. I mentioned his race to preemptively counter those who make it about race, but that may very well be falling into the trap I was talking about. A big question about this event is how did a cop who was that badly trained or mentally unprepared for a situation like this ever get put out onto the street? I hold the department as much responsible as her directly.

Citing someone who has many years of experience, however, has value.
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shes a 25 year veteran

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Yet again, a rightfully pulled-over suspect resisted arrest and created his own deadly situation.

^^^ THIS

I am one of the least prejudice people you will ever meet. I'll grant you there are some crazy cops and some profiling going on.

However, I'm tired of hearing. "It happened because I am black." No, it happened because you were doing the wrong thing and not following the instructions of the police.

Had this gentleman followed instructions, the police woman wouldn't have had to reach for her taser, and (sadly and unfortunately) grabbed her gun.

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Suspect resists arrest, cop shoots = racism.

Suspect resists arrest, cop doesn't shoot and uses force instead = excessive force

Suspect gets pulled over = racial profiling

Suspect resists arrest, cop uses no force whatsoever = "how could you let the suspect get away?"

Suspect gets arrested and complies, cop uses no force and suspect kills themself in jail = racism

Suspect shoots cop, cop dies = "good. The stupid pig deserved it".

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Well stated. It's so refreshing to come to this board and find voices of reason.

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I hold no political affiliation so I like looking at things from both sides.

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I love these new license plate scanners. They remove the bias, profiling, and race card from the traffic stop.

Perp: Why you done pullt me over, you pig-faced scumbag?

Cop: Because you're a thug. Now get the F out of the car with your hands up unless you want to become a statistic.

[END SARCASM]

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They'll still claim racism if it's technology. Have you heard of this documentary? https://moviechat.org/tt11394170/Coded-Bias

A.I. is racist now.

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You're right. If they're driving through a black neighborhood with a plate-scanner, and not driving through a white-neighborhood, that's racist.

But judge, there are no white neighborhoods in Brooklyn Center.

Doesn't matter. It's racist.

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When an individual (regardless of his race) breaks the law, he will be encountered by the police. When this occurs, you follow instructions. You NEVER try to negotiate your position in the street -- because it never turns out well.

If you ask why this always appears to happen to "people of color," perhaps the answer is that a disproportionate number of them are guilty of breaking the law.

And, so law enforcement it supposed to turn a blind eye, as not to be called "racist?" âť“âť“âť“

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Notice how the majority of these these black people who are killed by cops already have a criminal record. I'm not implying most black people in general or black people. I'm specifically talking about those who have been killed by cops. You can't trust criminals to obey the law then when they get shot. The same goes for the majority of any other race. If you have a criminal record when you're being questioned by police, they're not going to look at you innocently.

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All part of how latino will rule the US.

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Eh?
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1.2 million new voters/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/12/analysis-1-2m-illegal-aliens-projected-to-reach-southern-border-this-year/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7qKD-Ph7ds&t=8s

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Did you hit your head the other day or something? You've made ZERO sense the last 24-48 hours.

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We need more black people to do things to get killed so there will be room for the latinos coming over.

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We need videos of people of all colors complying with the police, thus not getting shot.

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Check out this article on Wright. The warrant for his arrest was for an armed robbery/assault that involved a gun and choking. He was still young so he could have turned his life around. The cop might have been justified in shooting him since he was a violent offender.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9467375/Daunte-Wright-warrant-arrest-attempted-aggravated-robbery-charges.html#comments

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I'm on your side here, but let's get the facts straight.

The above armed robbery did occur. He didn't get any money from it though.
He pled innocent and was out on bail awaiting a court date.

Conditions of his parole were that he meet with his parole officer and not posses a gun. In yet another encounter with police last June, he brandished a weapon and ran from police. He was given a court date to address the parole violation, and skipped court. That is when the warrant was issued. He did initially appear for the armed robbery charge.

He was driving his mother's car. He had no job and no car. If he had his own car, they would've known about the warrant as soon as they ran the plate.

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so in addition to the original armed assault ,
he's skipped bail,
had bail revoked for possesing a gun
successfully resisted arrest using a gun.
attmpted to resist arrest again

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Correct. George Floyd was also jailed EIGHT TIMES while living in Texas. Both Poster Children for why Black Lives Matter.

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You're right that the warrant was for the other incident. It's hard to keep track of his misdeeds. According to the website below, he was also charged with misdemeanors of disorderly conduct and selling marijuana in August 2019. His granny proclaimed that Wright may not have been an angel, but he was our angel.



https://www.insider.com/daunte-wright-details-of-charges-warrants-before-killed-by-police-2021-4

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Zoo animals and joggers came out to play again huh? Not surprised. If the area is majority black, they're only doing damage to themselves. Maybe they could use that defunded police funds to teach black kids how to act when pulled over in a stop and not act so thuggish?

I always liken it to the 'genetics' kicked in and Usain Bolt away. Then the animals (which are probably criminals themselves mind you) start their privileged entitled status of being able to burn shit down and kill random folks.

I disagree that she shouldn't be charged, even if accidental, that still lead to a death. Think they call that involuntary manslaughter since she still intended to pull something out. Her poor training is either her or the people training her. She should spend at least 2-4 years behind bars.

Ironic how the it took place only 15 minutes from George Floyd incident.


Update:
Kim Potter was named as the Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, police officer who shot and killed Daunte Wright after mistakenly thinking her gun was a Taser. She is the police union president and a veteran officer who served on a law enforcement honor guard. Potter has resigned from the department, the city announced on April 13, two days after the fatal shooting.

SO SHE IS A 26 year old VET, not a fucking rookie. There's no way she should've been able to make such a rookie mistake for a union president. No excuses.

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Yeah, the rioting boggles my mind. People not thinking, caught up in the fervor of opportunistic rage. You're right in that anyone destroying their local area only hurts themselves. It's counterproductive, self-destructive behavior that only helps to perpetuate negative stereotypes. I also blame those in the media and politicians who engender the framework for such mindsets.

I actually said she SHOULD be charged. This was negligence at its finest, and is absolutely involuntary manslaughter.

With that update you added, that's just nuts. She really has no excuse for this panicked, rookie mistake if she's a vet. Although, at 26 years old, is that really a "veteran police officer?". I'm not sure how a 26-year-old could be considered a "veteran". Wonder how many years of service she's actually had, and how much real-world experience?

Regardless, I do think it's quite clear this was a mistake, but my god what a moronic mistake. The guy was struggling, but wasn't really presenting a threat (yet). She's holding a Glock, which is significantly heavier than a taser, and feels very different. There's just no excuse for what she did, and I'm sure she's going to live with that the rest of her life.

Although, here's someone explaining it, and it's easy to armchair quarterback, I guess. But still... with that one accidental round squeezed off she not only killed someone who didn't deserve it, she sparked a situation that resulted in blocks of businesses being looted and destroyed (a reaction that is a massive indictment on the state of our culture and society).

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/13/us/daunte-wright-taser-gun.html

Like this article mentions, this incident has shades of Fruitvale Station (a pretty good movie with Michael B. Jordon was made from that event). Like then, it's clearly not a race-related circumstance, and yet many will capitalize on that and try to make it out to be.
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I based my info of 'rookie' from the Tatum analysis then just formed my own after skim reading your thread. When I said 26 year (old) vet I meant she's been in the force for 26 friggin' years. She's definitely a veteran. She's not 26 herself though, 48, and has been on the force since 1995.

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Oh wow. Yeah I misunderstood that. That's much, much worse. Good lord.
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Girl cop... lol...

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I'm confused, is this a racist incident because a white woman shot a black man, or is this sexism because she's being attacked for doing it?

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girls shoulldn't be cops... they're fearfull, clumsy and weak...

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Men aren't immune from that.

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But those men don't become cops.

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Tell that to Oscar Grant or Eric Harris.
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ALL women are fearfull, clumsy and weak in comparison to men.

Might as well make children cops...

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Troll.

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yo mommas fearfull, clumsy and weak

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We don't know if this had to do with race. It's possible that she could have shot because he was black, but it's also possible that she didn't shoot him based on his race. Unless she comes out and said why she shot, or she was hooked up to a lie detector test, we will never really know. I hate how people automatically assume race as if it's not possible that the cop was just terrible at her job.

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Actually in this case the video is pretty clear she doesn't shoot because of race (that didn't stop the usual race-baiters from futilely trying to make it about race, though). You're right though that in a lot of these situations biased people automatically assume it's about race almost immediately, led to that conclusion by twisted beliefs, and it's not until the real information comes to light months later, once they no longer care about it or the victims, that it's discovered that it's not (seriously, every single supposed racially related cop shooting in recent memory has turned out to clearly having nothing to do with race, at least that's in any way provable). But for zealots and charlatan race-peddlers who want to control non-white populations, they find a way to incorporate any and every event into their race-based narrative. It's appalling, and is destroying the country, while at the same time diminishing genuine race-related issues.
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I couldn't have said it better!

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