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The AMAZING and HISTORIC victory of Joe Biden --is he a magician??

posted 4 years ago by Mikey (420)
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Joe Biden's election victory may be one of the most ASTOUNDING achievements in the history of presidential elections. I mean, Americans turned out in record numbers for the elderly Washington politician whose been part of the system for fifty years; it was unprecedented!!
Consider the following:

1. No incumbent President in almost 150 years has gained votes in their re-election campaign and lost. Yet Pres. Trump not only gained a record-breaking 10 million more votes than in 2016, he also got more black and Latino votes than any Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. Yet, he still lost. It makes you think that it was the name of "Biden" on the ticket in 2008 and 2012 that pulled Barack Obama over the finish line.

2. Amazingly, Joe Biden managed to pull out a record win despite consistently low enthusiasm for his candidacy within the Democrat Party. A Rasmussen Poll had Biden enthusiasm at 49% within his party, while Pres. Trump's was at 76%. STUNNING that Biden overcame that!!

3. No candidate in over 40 years has won the presidency without sweeping the 19 "Bellwether" counties across the US. Yet, Biden won only ONE of those counties, while Pres. Trump won 18 of them; and he won those 18 counties by an average of over 16 points, while Biden got his one county by about 3 points. Biden also lost the two "bellwether" states of Florida and Ohio, two states that have selected the winning candidate for over sixty years; yet Biden still managed to win. Now THAT is utterly astounding!!

4. In some of the big cities in battleground states, Biden's votes actually exceeded the number of registered voters!! STUNNING!!

5. Democrats lost BIG TIME on election night and Republicans gained seats in the House. It was a HUGE night of Republican wins. Yet, somehow the Republican on the top of the ballot ended up losing. That has NEVER HAPPENED in over 200 years of U.S. history. What a miraculous achievement by Joe Biden!

6. Joe Biden managed to overcome Trump's commanding Primary vote. Pres. Trump got more votes in the Primary (in which he was unchallenged) than any incumbent in American history; over 18 million votes. The previous record held by Pres. Clinton was about half that.

The bottom line, Joe Biden's victory turned over 100 years of election data on its head. I am surprised we don't see more journalists touting these miraculous successes.
Joe Biden is THE MIRACLE WORKER of presidential candidates!!

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14393) 4 years ago

And the fun isn't over yet.

[–] brux (14724) 4 years ago

>> 4. In some of the big cities in battleground states, Biden's votes actually exceeded the number of registered voters!! STUNNING!!

Really? Who reported that, and where?

[–] Martoto (5033) 4 years ago

It was "reported" by some person or persons on behalf of Trump. Trump will have quoted them directly at some point. And then Trump has probably disavowed any knowledge of that person or persons

That's who.

[–] brux (14724) 4 years ago

In other words, nobody. Just another baseless claim by Trump and his cronies.

[–] Jinx (3724) 4 years ago

Who reported that: Trumps Lawyers
Where: wherever Trump paid them to say

[–] brux (14724) 4 years ago

Pretty much seems due to the hatred of Donald Trump. I suspect Donald Trump is so shocked at his loss because he thought his rigging of the vote would ensure he would win.

[–] NVF (851) 4 years ago

"1. No incumbent President in over 150 years has gained votes in their re-election campaign and lost."

False. Grover Cleveland, 1888. Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/37ev6wA

"...he also got more...Latino votes than any Republican presidential candidate in 60 years."

False. When viewed as a percentage (which is what's meaningful) both Reagan and Bush fared better. LatinoUSA: https://bit.ly/2HMUr8c

"2. Amazingly, Joe Biden managed to pull out a record win despite consistently low enthusiasm for his candidacy..."

The enthusiasm was to oust Trump who had an approval rating in the 40s throughout his term.

"3. No candidate in over 40 years has won the presidency without sweeping the 19 'Bellwether' counties across the US."

“'It speaks to an evolution in American politics' said David Niven, a political scientist at the University of Cincinnati who analyzed the state of Ohio’s fall from bellwether status this year." AP: https://bit.ly/37agaiU

"4. In some of the big cities in battleground states, Biden's votes actually exceeded the number of registered voters!!"

False. Milwaukee as one example: USAToday https://bit.ly/2Vaf9lr

"5. Democrats lost BIG TIME on election night and Republicans gained seats in the House....Yet, somehow the Republican on the top of the ballot ended up losing. That has NEVER HAPPENED in over 200 years of U.S. history."

False. Several instances of such split voting in the presidential cycle. UC Santa Barbara: https://bit.ly/2JjjaBa

"6. Joe Biden managed to overcome Trump's commanding Primary vote."

The significance of this eludes me.

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

"6. Joe Biden managed to overcome Trump's commanding Primary vote."

The significance of this eludes me.

Me to. This might be a strange reference (MIGHT) as to why his big crowds of 20k or 30k didn't translate into votes against Biden's car horn honk rally's.

Which is funny, because U2 or the Rolling Stones or Bruce Springsteen or Carrie Underwood can pack a house of 100,000 and sell maybe 3, 5 or 10k records (and that's on the high side) to the same crowd attending the same concert.

I mean The Rolling Stone had the biggest touring decade of the 1980's in support for an album that took 3 decades to go 2 times platinum.

Crowds don't sell. They don't sell in albums (even back when people actually physically bought them) and they certainty don't sell in politics:

Walter Mondale notched 100,000 people in 1984:

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/11/01/Walter-Mondale-drew-his-biggest-crowd-of-the-campaign/3124468133200/

He lost 49 states! Including the above state (NY) where 100k people attended.

It MIGHT also be a reference to him winning "bigly" in the Republican primaries. But he ran absolutely against nobody...

[–] Mikey (420) 4 years ago

For number 1: I said "over" when I meant to say "almost". 132 years is still a LONG time!

For number 2: More black votes than any Republican in sixty years.
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/trump-won-record-minority-support-yet-the-left-is-calling-it-racism/

https://nypost.com/2020/11/04/despite-racist-charges-trump-did-better-with-minorities-than-any-gop-candidate-in-60-years/

Number 3 you don't seem to dispute.

Number 4: https://iotwreport.com/analysis-7-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city/

For Number 5 you provide a list of President's gains or losses in the House and Senate, but you do not specify which one(s) contradict the claim of number 5.

The significance of number 6 "eluding" you is irrelevant.

[–] Martoto (5033) 4 years ago

Somebody at iotw can't use a calculator.

[–] NVF (851) 4 years ago

While it's clear to most anyone that your thesis was dismantled, let me briefly respond.

"1: I said 'over' when I meant to say 'almost'. 132 years is still a LONG time!"

That something hasn't happened in a long time (or at all for that matter) is not an argument for fraud.

"2: More black votes than any Republican in sixty years."

Once again, it's the percentage that matters and other presidents have fared better than Trump in the last 60 years. (Black Demographics: https://bit.ly/3o5FxJo) However, even if Trump won the highest share of non-white voters of any Republican presidential candidate since 1960, those gains were offset by Biden through other demos. (Brookings:
https://brook.gs/2VbkuJ6)

"Number 3 you don't seem to dispute."

Something need not be disputed to be shown immaterial.

"Number 4: iotwreport..."

The USA Today article I linked to specifically debunks the Milwaukee City Wire piece that report is based on.

"For Number 5 you provide a list of President's gains or losses in the House and Senate, but you do not specify which one(s) contradict the claim of number 5."

The chart specifies it, but in case you're struggling here's just one example: In 1996, Republicans made gains in both the House and Senate and Clinton won.

"The significance of number 6 'eluding' you is irrelevant."

Don't mistake rhetoric for perplexity.

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

Hilarious. This elect wasn't about the battle of the best. It was about a battle for the worst.

In this regard, Trump did indeed win.

He lost "to the worst candidate ever", his own words.

[–] Redsfan001 (6146) 4 years ago

Covid19 was the random element.

Without it, Trump would have been re-elected no problem.

Part of history's allure is that we will never know how a second Trump term would have panned out.

Covid19 changed that.

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

Covid19 was the random element. Without it, Trump would have been re-elected no problem.

Part of history's allure is that we will never know how a second Trump term would have panned out. Covid19 changed that.

Among the many other things pandemic affected this was definitely one of them and in especially in regards to the election in the United States of course.

The coronavirus was a minor story turning into a major story by the time Joe eventually broke out of the pack during the South Carolina primary. I think the last two debates barley even mentioned #covid-19, specifically the CBS one.

And hen the debates all went away and world panicked.

Joe was always the go to guy with Sanders being the spoiler. But Bernie was so much weaker in IA and won by a much smaller margin in NH than I think most expected.

And Biden always had the machine behind him.

While Sander became the "also ran" of 2020 and not the aging rock star he enjoyed four years earlier.

The rest of the field had no chance. Warren came off as a bigger bitch than Hillary and the only reason I remember Harris is because she was the VP pick.

Beto O'Rourke. Good lord. Remember him? Anytime there was a table to climb up on in a small dinner, hand him a microphone and by God he'll get on top of it somehow.

Booker?

Gosh! I don't even remember the rest of the field.

But I'm rambling...

Yes, Trump would have beaten Biden in 2020 had co-vid not existed. Although, I think a large portion of voters would have to take a shower after pulling that lever in the alternate reality.

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

I forgot about Bloomberg. But Warren chopped him apart in that one debate.

But he was an idiot anyway. Maybe in 1988, 2000 or 2004 he could have had a chance to win the Democratic nomination.

[–] user111 (358) 4 years ago

He was also just a liar, making huge hay about spending billions on getting Biden election should he lose in the primaries. Welp, he did lose in the primaries. Did his wallet follow to spend large on Biden? Nope.

[–] snepts (11123) 4 years ago

rump's an idiot and if the majority actually vote him into power - which has NEVER happened - it's an indictment against the wisdom of the majority versus the loudness of the minority. He's a crap-fest car-wreck and if our Americans citizens don't see this, shame on us !!

[–] Rorikon (17856) 4 years ago

1. He's also the first to lose the popular vote twice, impeached, and most likely 1 term predz. Biden gained 15 million more votes than in 2016. The minority gains weren't that much higher than from Romney's.

2. Trump was probably just that despised considering the alternative for the other side. That and Hollywood and MSM helped along with huge funds. Also polls don't mean much these days so you can't cherry pick your favorite.

3. No argument there. All said and true.

4. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/08/fact-check-post-argues-states-have-more-votes-than-voters/6191399002/

5. That's before the ballots started being counted. More voted by mail-in on the left than the right. Yep, they gained about 8 more seats (9 today), mostly women and some were minorities. Didn't have a pandemic like COVID since the Spanish Flu either.

6. No argument there.

Indeed he is a miracle worker. Stayed mostly in his bunker and got his celebs to do the work for him.

[–] Crocodile (3127) 4 years ago

The establishment cheated

[–] snepts (11123) 4 years ago

Boring response.