Anyone Else Miss The U.S. When It Was a Strong Leader? - Politics Discussion

[–] aliensalmon (5860) 5 years ago

I also miss when presidents were presidential, like Barack Obama.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

You thought he was "Presidential" because he reminded you of Morgan Freeman. Some Americans will fall for anything...

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

You're being a racist.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Oh! How terrible of me! Bullshit!

Get a brain, sunshine. You're being a foolist. Not to mention a liarist and a dumbist. I think there's a law against that in your country, isn't there? If there isn't, there should be.

No, don't bother replying. You'd only say some more nonsense, and annoy me again.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Triggered much? You can't handle the truth.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

No Keelai, my old mate. What I can't handle is bullshit. And that's all I ever hear from you. I don't need to hear any more.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

The Morgan Freeman comment was racist. You're in denial.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

And you're a fool. In fact, all three kinds of fool - poor, plain, and damn.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Who's the greater fool? The fool or the one who continues to communicate with the fool?

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

THE FOOL🙂

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Well, I'll let you answer that. I told you I didn't need to hear any more bs from you. And what did you do? You repeated your lame "racist" accusation. As if I'd take it seriously the second time. So, best you don't continue to communicate with me, old mate.

Now, I've got things to do; better things, so I'll say cheers.

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[–] B1cKsurN (17837) 5 years ago

He's a professional bloviator.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I had to look that up, B1cK. Glad I did. Spot on. :)

"Someone who pontificates about issues of which they are uninformed, yet pretend to be expert."

His mate DoggieDaddy is in the same club.

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[–] Bubbathegut (18253) 5 years ago

I miss when Presidents got the nickname Deporter-in-Chief.

Obuma deported over 1.5 million immigrants, they were just here looking for a job and sent them packing.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Obama should have arrested Trump for hiring illegals, and arrested Melania for working illegally years ago.

Trump's grandfather was a draft dodger who was deported from Bavaria after he tired to return. The U.S. should have deported him for his low character and running a brothel.

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[–] B1cKsurN (17837) 5 years ago

The guy that bowed down to everyone and kissed their rings? Yeah, that's not strong leadership.

The last time the US had strong leadership... I'm willing to bet no one on this board was born yet.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 5 years ago

You do realize that most of the world laughed at Obama. Especially Putin.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Putin is a thug like Trump. Both hate democracy.

I only watched foreign news when Obama was president. He was repeatedly referred to as a ROCKSTAR in foreign media and other world leaders literally rushed to be with him and take selfies. The public loved him, too.

One of the funniest videos was a compilation of a meeting of then President Sarkozy meeting with presidential candidates McCain and Obama an hour later. McCain basically got the bum's rush while Sarkozy fell all over Obama. Sarkozy met with McCain for about 5 minutes, whereas he walked outside to greet Obama, took photos, held a long press conference, took more photos, and then walked him to his car after an hour together. The contrast was hysterical. I found a short article about it. If I find the video, I'll post it.
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1826759,00.html

200,000 Berlins Greet CANDIDATE Obama
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1826759,00.html

Pres. Obama in France
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqCF3T3gu1k

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

EVERYONE WANTED TO BE HIS PAL AND TAKE PICS WITH HIM...WHY IS THAT A GOOD THING?...PRESIDENT SHOULD BE AUTHORITATIVE AND EVEN SLIGHTLY FEARED,NOT RYAN SEACREST.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Trump is the laughing stock of the world. Nobody respects him and world leaders have decided to ignore him.

Weak President
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViiMNssssnE

Leaders Take Responsibility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sbqtF6Bi5M

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

WE DID THAT YOU KNOW...WE VOTED HIM IN AND THEN IMMEDIATELY STARTED EATING OUR OWN TAILS...AND CONTINUE TO DO SO...WE ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK...ALL OF US...AND PEOPLELIKE YOU AND POSTS LIKE YOURS ARE AT THE TOP OF THE FAULT LIST.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

YOU voted him in! YOU are responsible! YOU are the laughing stock!

I knew he would be a horrible president because he's a conman and he's dumb. I warned that there were dullards living within the U.S. who would stupidly fall for his lies and vote for him. I knew they would get nothing from him: no wall, no affordable healthcare, no high-paying jobs.

Sorry Kowalski, but you don't get to include me in your cult.

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

I DIDNT VOTE...AS AN AMERICAN,WE SHOULD SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT REGARDLESS THOUGH...KEEP ALL THIS VILENESS OUT OF OTHER COUNTRIES EARS AND EYES...YOU ARE THE CULT MEMBER...THE CULT OF UNDERMINING AMERICA...

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

"I DIDNT VOTE"

Why not? For someone who isn't politically active, you're on theses boards doing plenty of whining.

"WE SHOULD SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT REGARDLESS"

Blind allegiance? That's CULT behavior! All elected officials work for the American people and must be held accountable when they are not. Trump and his sycophant Republican enablers are literally killing Americans (120,000 dead) and destroying the economy. I would never support someone destroying my country.

In November: America or Trump

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

YOUR KIND STARTED ATTACKING AND TEARING INTO TRUMP BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED AND HAVENT STOPPED YET...YOU ARE THE WORST OF US🙂

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

I've known Trump for at least 25 years. He was always scum. I was right about his weak and disastrous presidency. 120,000 dead Americans because of that bastard.

In November: America or Trump

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

YOUR RIDICULOUS OPINION DOESNT IMPRESS ME...THE MAN AND THE JOB ARE 2 THINGS AND YOUR CULT TORPEDOED ONE BASED ON YOUR OPINIONS OF THE OTHER...YOU ARENT WORTH THE TIME IT TAKES TO READ YOU NARCISSITIC,SELF CENTERED,JUVENILE CRAP🙂

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

You're the one who advocates blind allegiance which makes you cult-worthy. You're still supporting a crooked and inept politician who has killed 120,000 Americans and destroyed the economy. That by definition makes you a cult follower because you have no rational ability to criticize your cult leader even when he's doing great harm to the country. You see an "enemy" in anyone who doens't follow your cult leader.

Unlike you, I can choose which politician has the best ideas and plans for leading the country. My allegiance is to my country, not to any one leader - especially a bad one.

Why are you typing in all caps?

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

YOUR FIRST TWO PARAGRAPHS ARE INCORRECT AND UNTRUTHFUL...PARAPHRASING AND OUTRIGHT LYING COME EASY TO YOU....AS FOR THE CAPS?...EAT ME🙂

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

""WE SHOULD SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT REGARDLESS""

Your quote. You follow blindly = cult follower.

Obviously, what I wrote is correct and true. Your only rebuttal is a weak barrage of insults. I'm not impressed.

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

WHAT I SAID AND WHAT YOU SAID ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT,BUT YOU KNOW THAT...YOURE A TRUMP TROLL...A QUICK VIEWING OF YOUR POSTS SHOWS YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME FOR OVER THREE YEARS...WOW... SPENDING OVER THREE YEARS FOCUSED ON A MAN YOU HATE?...YOU NEED HELP.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

You mean three years trying to deprogram Trump's cult followers. Finally, they are beginning to wake up as his lowered polls show. Trump's mismanagement of coronavirus and the deaths of 120,000 fellow Americans will do that.

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

ONCE AGAIN,I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM...I JUST WONDER HOW YOURE GONNA COPE WHEN HE IS REELECTED...

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

There will likely be 250,000 dead Americans by the elections. I doubt if most voters are happy with a politician who is killing them.

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

YOUR ONE LINE IS A LIE...YOU SEEM UNREASONABLE...MOVINE ON🙂

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Buck stops with the president who called it a hoax since January... and played golf. Buck stops with him.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 5 years ago

You mean he implemented a travel ban over a hoax?

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

"hoax" "We lost nobody." "press is in hysteria mode" = no plan!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5TZ6fTYrsE

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

🚽

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[–] Filmtenk2 (4138) 5 years ago

Trump supporters people have an out. Since they dont believe trump did anything wrong with regards to his Covid response, that means in their minds it's not his fault. He lost because of the hand he was dealt not because he's a despicable degenerate moron. So y'all can save some face.

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

LOL...MOST OFWHAT YOU SAID IS TRUE...MINUS YOUR SICKLY SPIN🙂

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

It's called denial. It just means they can't handle the truth.

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

LMAO...BROKEN RECORDS COME UP WITH MORE FRESH MATERIAL THAN YOU.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

"BROKEN RECORDS"

??

Now, I know you're old.

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

ID BET YOURE OLDER THAN I AM ACTUALLY.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

So, you admit you're old!

Are you volunteering to die for the economy like Trump wants you to?

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

IM 38 AND YOUR SECOND SENTENCE IS INVENTED FLUFF🙄

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

"Texas Lt. Governor: Old People Should Volunteer to Die to Save the Economy

According to Dan Patrick “lots of grandparents” are willing to sacrifice themselves for the cause.

After doing a brief, weeklong impression of a semiresponsible human being, on Monday, Donald Trump got back to the business of being a reckless, anti-science moron, floating the idea that we should end this social-distancing business sooner rather than later in order to “save” the economy from the coronavirus.

One person who thought it was downright inspired? Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, who is of the opinion that old people, i.e. those most at risk, should volunteer to die to save the economy."

and

"President Trump won seniors in 2016 but concerns over the economy and coronavirus are pushing the group to Joe Biden.

"The pandemic has turned everything upside down," Volgy says. "The elderly have been the ones who have been dying in this pandemic. When you say, 'it's time to open up,' you're saying that their lives are not that valuable anymore compared to another month or two of shutting down the economy. That's not going to play well with voters.""

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[–] Kowalski (79156) 5 years ago

SO...A BUNCH OF UNRELATED QUOTES AND SOME HYPERBOLIC OPINION STRINGING IT TOGETHER...KIND OF?...WEAK.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Truth is truth. Seniors don't want to vote for Trump.

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[–] AndyKing1967 (39870) 5 years ago

Wait! What? Ryan Seacrest is running for President?

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

What are you talking up Obama for? He's gone, and he won't be back. But from what I gather in US blogs and opinion sites, he made a right dog's dinner of the job.

And didn't you ever notice that, whenever he was giving a public address, he would keep looking left and right. Hardly ever looked directly at the camera. The reluctance or inability to look directly at the people you're talking to is a classic sign of duplicity. He had that in spades.

He knew what the public didn't know, namely that he was an outright fraud, and he despised the American people..

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

You're reading the wrong blogs.

My comment about Obama was in reply to Trevor aka: Simpleton Sandy who brought him up. ALL of the past presidents showed more leadership than Trump.

Obama was likely looking at his audience in the eyes like you said. You're being silly.

Trump has just killed 120,000 Americans and wants to kill more. Trump hates the American people.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

No, check out some of his addresses on yt. It's painful. You keep thinking he'll stop just once and look right at the camera, but he never does. Frankly, it's just plain bad manners. If he had half a brain, he'd know that that body language is a dead giveaway.

But then, maybe he does, and that's why he does it. When you despise someone enough, you really want them to know it.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 5 years ago

What is 'democratic' about what your party is doing in America today?

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Democrat Cuomo contained coronavirus in NY as did the Democrat governors in neighboring states by using SCIENCE and FACTS. True leadership!

Trump's pandemic is raging in many red states. Magic-thinking, "liberating" states and no plan.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 5 years ago

Cuomo's 'science' decimated nursing homes.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Red states want to open their nursing homes NOW! Too bad Cuomo and the other 49 governors had no leadership from Washington to address how to handle coronavirus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHjJydZO99A&t=5s

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 5 years ago

You mean as opposed to blue states, who used nursing homes to put people already infected with the China virus? And that led to thousands of them dying. Over 25,000, at least? Just in nursing homes.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

If Trump has lead in January, then most of those seniors would be alive now.

Can you explain in detail what Trump's coronavirus plan is? I'll make it easy. He has none.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 5 years ago

Just about every nation on the planet is still going through this China virus. It did not help when Democrats decided to riot all across America.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Not really. The U.S. is spiraling out of control while other countries' rates are coming down.
https://sanjuanislander.com/images/charts/health/2020-june_coronavirus_infections.jpg

Unlike Trumpites, protestors wore masks therefore had no impact. Republicans are spreading Trump's pandemic by not wearing masks.

Covid is down in NY and way up in Florida, Texas and Arizona. Magic-thinking doesn't work. Only wearing masks and social distancing.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 5 years ago

I notice you don't mention the deaths are coming way down in America. Again, these riots all across America are not helping but you have no criticisms for them. Not for looting, not for burning down buildings, not for assaults, not for spreading the China virus. Nothing at all for them.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Hospitalizations are up in red states. Deaths are coming down because the victims are younger and treatments are better, Einstein.

Young people still have horrible symptoms like blood clots, etc.

No leadership in Washington. Trump is playing golf, again.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 5 years ago

Yes, but we never hear that deaths are way down. Do we? Can you explain the MSM would not relay that fact? And how come China never receives criticism for their despicable lies? Because Dems always, ALWAYS, look for the political angle. Not the truth, not what's decent, but political. It's why BLM is out this year in force. It's why Antifa is out, too. They are your domestic terrorist allies.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

First you say, "Democrat Cuomo contained coronavirus in NY..."

But then you say, "Too bad Cuomo and the other 49 governors had no leadership from Washington to address how to handle coronavirus."

And you say, "Democrat Cuomo contained coronavirus .... by using SCIENCE and FACTS."

But then you say, "Deaths are coming down because the victims are younger and treatments are better."

You're all over the place like a dog's dinner.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

If Trump acted in January by showing leadership, then the virus would've been contained at that time. Cuomo and the other 49 governors would've been coordinating with the president who would've been leading. The deaths and contagion would've been a much smaller fraction with an earlier response.

I know it's been 3 1/2 years since we've had a competent president, but you couldn't have forgotten how the U.S. normally is run so quickly.

I strongly suggest you follow information from medical doctors like I do and you won't be so confused.

Don't confuse cases, hospitalizations and deaths. Those are three different stats.
Cuomo has been following the CDC guidelines and the public has cooperated by wearing masks, closing and social distancing which lead to a drastic drop in cases.

Cases are going up in Florida, Texas and Arizona because they're not following the CDC guidelines. Cases are up, but deaths will be lower since it's a younger population that is being infected in those states presently. That can change in the future if the young spread it to their older people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOty4J1b0FU

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Really needed to write a long reply, did you? Because that always works when you're caught out, yes?

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

A reply you're not able to address.

Pandemic Playbook which Trump didn't follow:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdf

Trump's inaction which has lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of Americans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD9XWTbbSGA

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I'm sure I'm able. I'm just not willing.

Because there's no use arguing with you. You can't be told.

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[–] Matildawormwood (1545) 5 years ago

And you don't think the world is laughing at Dumpster now????

Obama and Bush may have gotten type of critisism, mainly from trolls and ignorant people. However Dumpster deserves all the backlash he gets. I bet that no one in other countries is praising that fat Orange Clown. He deserves to be in one place only........prison!

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 5 years ago

No, I think they want you to believe that because Trump is too effective. Every enemy of America knows they have an ally right here in America. It's called the DNC.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Isn't it pretty to think so?

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I miss it, too. Now we have an imbecile who impresses the very weak on this forum. 'Nuff said.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

He certainly impresses you, doggie. You can't shut up about him. With you, there's never 'nuff said!

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Depresses me, not impresses me. Do you know the difference between the two ?

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I do, but you obviously don't. Depression is the impression he makes on you.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Good to know !

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 5 years ago

Under Trump is has become weak, leaderless, the laughingstock of the world, untrustworthy, and poorer.

Actually, that happened under Obama... and it hasn't changed much with Trump. It's the new US status quo. The new boss is China.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Trump begged China to help him win the 2020 election. Trump loves China! His daughter has multiple business deals with them. His faux outrage only fools his cult - not anyone else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAHz4i3_x8

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 5 years ago

You go from "Trump hates China" to "Trump loves China" and then to "Trump hates China" again, from "Trump hates Jews" to "Trump is an infiltrate from Jews" and then back and forth again. The whole time, it's one thing and its opposite, whatever serves best.

It's already boring.

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[–] Keelai (36162) 5 years ago

Those are the voices in your head.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

LOL!

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[–] Matildawormwood (1545) 5 years ago

Claims that Obama was weak mostly comes from bitter red states who were jealous of his leadership and legacy. The stock market crash in 2008 was not Obama's fault at all as he had just gotten elected. By 2014-2015ish (still his term),the economy was pretty much restored and jobs were coming back.

Obama was strong in the sense that he cared about the well-belong of the PEOPLE although economically he started out not so well. He tried to keep us United. Under Obama, covid-19 wouldve never gotten as poorly as it did. Dumpster didn't even pretend to care and ignored all the warnings from shutting down to mask wearing to reopening to soon.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 5 years ago

Nationally, Obama was supported by 90-99% of press, press agencies, technological companies like google, facebook or twitter, academia and deep state in general. And even who dared to criticize him, he did it carefully, to avoid being labeled as 'racist'.

Internationally, that where Obama had to show he wasn't a weak leader... and he wasn't able to win or control a single conflict. China freely expanded in West Pacific, building military bases in international waters (they already stopped, that was one of first wins of Trump). Korea developed its nuclear program. Iran got what they wanted in the treaty, Middle East went completely out of control (do you remember the ISIS?), and so on and so for. Internationally, Obama was a failure.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 5 years ago

I did from 2009 - 2016, now I don't.

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[–] Matildawormwood (1545) 5 years ago

I sure do. It's true that all presidents have their own flaws however, Donald Dumpster is by far the worst leader in the history of the US. He was already a joke when he first got elected, but this year, he hit an all time low.

The US was 10x better under Obama, Bush, and Bill Clinton. No severe pandemics outbreaks, no riots since 1992, all crisis being handled properly. Presidents putting actual people ahead of power, money, and pride. I miss those days.

Fact of the matter is, Dumpster is the #1 reason why this pandemic hit an all time high and why the US is now a laughing stock. With good leadership, we would've beat covid like other countries are currently doing. I feel like another POTUS is the only solution to this hell-hole.

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