Data shows that almost 50% of people who were killed by police were people who had some degree of disabilty. Stats also show 1/3 of people who were killed by police were Aboriginal. Yet, people are told that saying "All Lives Matter" is racist and "were talking about black lives right now". It's almost like it's some sort of fad.
shareI don’t think it should be immediately be written off as being racist but I see it distracts from and downplays BLM. Being a reasonable human being, I’m uninterested in hearing any of it because I’m already aware of the importance of human lives, of treating human beings equally. Chaos, fear and turmoil is no way for any of us to live.
shareI agree that it could be a distraction from the movement, but to mean it also seems like a distraction from other races too like I mentioned in my original post.
shareBlack Lives Matter is a terrorist organization plain and simple. I don't see any difference between them and the Neo-Nazis, they are not legitimate.
shareIt's racist because it doesn't have the aforementioned class/race attached to it. Fem- or Black-. Once you have that then it means all lives matter just blacks more than others and so on and so forth. It just highlights the injustices of a certain race more even though stats dispute this.
shareBLM includes all lives but reminds us black lives matter too. If the mantra is all lives matter, black lives tend to get ignored. If it was initialized as BLMT the right wing would understand it the same, but I guess they wouldn't have something phony to complain about?
shareBut what about the reminder of disabled lives and Aboriginal lives? They get killed more disproportionately than black people.
shareWhy the whataboutism? If disabled people came out with DLM, why would there be any reason to tell them all lives matter? All you're doing is saying you don't care about their uphill battle. Which is the truth about you and BLM. You don't care and you're tired of hearing about it.
shareLook at what I said specifically: "They get killed more disproportionately than black people."
If the argument of Black Lives Matter is that they are disproportionately being killed by police, where is the attention for them? I don't see it anywhere. Where are the protests? Where are the celebrities speaking out?
Black people getting killed disproportionately wasn't getting all that much attention until Black Lives Matter started making rounds on social media accompanied by kneeling football players.
If disabled people or aboriginal people want the same attention, they're going to have to make the same strides. It comes down to the willpower to get a movement started.
Really? If disabled people and natives started their own movement, they'd be accused of trying to overshadow the BLM movement.
shareYou can assume that all you want. Your assumptions are not my problem.
shareYou assumed that the problems of disabled people and natives didn't get the same attention because they didn't have willpower.
shareWhere are the disabled people spreading the word that disabled lives matter? It's kinda hard to support a group that doesn't appear to exist.
It's as if you know I'm right, but are pretending not to.
There are multiple organization just how black people have multiple like Black Lives Matter and NAACP.
Council for Disability Rights
Cerebral Palsy Group
Disability Rights Advocates
Where are the disabled people spreading the word that disabled people are mistreated by law enforcement?
Naming groups does no good if nobody is spreading the message.
Just because you couldn't name any groupsand think no one is spreading the message, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
shareI never said I couldn't name groups. I said BLM got the message out by putting in the work on behalf of the BLM organization and by having football players kneel during the anthem. And then I said disabled people haven't put in as much work.
Can you prove disabled people have put as much effort into their cause to stifle unfair treatment by law enforcement?
No, but they also don't have celebrity endorsements like NFL players to help them out.
shareWell, it does happen to be true that there are black celebrities who consider themselves members of BLM, the primary NFL anthem kneeler being one of them.
I'm sorry you couldn't prove the disabled organizations were putting in the same effort to get the message out.
Because you said it was a lack of willpower.
shareLol, you're just arguing for argument sake at this point. Willpower, effort, whatever you want to call the driving force behind getting the message out. Regardless of which word I used, I explained the full context which is BLM itself getting the message out.
shareSo in other words, disabled people are lazy. Got it.
shareSure, bud. I would argue that disabled people do not agree with you enough to push for it, but hey, if that's the lever you need to pull then so be it.
But the fact remains, BLM agreed there was injustice and put in the work to get the message out.
BLM includes all lives? Where exactly does it state that? Why would BLM include all lives when the movement was specifically created because of what happened in Ferguson? If BLM includes all lives, then why is it WRONG to say ALM? It should mean the exact same thing, per you.
When you start your argument with a false claim, you're always wrong. That's why you're constantly backpedaling and constantly moving the goalposts to salvage some pointless "win" even if it's just semantics. That's pretty damn stupid, soy boy.
I remember when Bernie Sanders got run off the stage for saying "all lives matter" at one of his rallies. This is a man that supports black people 100% and even he got criticized for saying it.
I remember seeing a video of Bernie Sanders doing a rally, and these two loud BLM protesters stormed his stage and demanded that he let them speak or they will shut his rally down. Bernie's people said he would let them speak after Bernie did, but they threw a bigger for and demanded they spoke now. Bernie decided to shut the rally down himself.
shareYep, that video is all over the internet too. But I can't seem to find the one where Bernie says "All Lives Matter" and as soon as he did this, two black men rushed the stage to correct him. It looked very threatening to me.
Bernie did not look comfortable at all. If anyone can find it, post the link...
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The term itself is not racist. But some people use the term for racist reasons.
The problem inherent with our country is that everyone makes their "side" out to be something special:
-BLM
-Feminism
-White Supremacists
-Trump Supporters
All four of the above-mentioned groups keep taking on this victim complex/calling attention to themselves and ALL stem from our broken two-party societal system. Blacks want more representation/recognition in society while Trumpers and White Supremacists feel threatened by the new progressive paradigm that most of the civilized world is adopting. They think they're being left behind/feel they'll one day be insignificant in a sea of "brown people".
BLM members aren't really doing themselves any favors as SOME in their movement are violent and it adds nothing but fuel to the fire and provides cannon fodder to the racists and Trump Supporters who wind up embracing Trump as their "last hope" of relevance.
Then you have the "Woke" crowd and feminism. Same deal: special treatment disguised as a call for "equality". In reality, every one of these sides has a "Me! Me! Me!" complex and none of them seem to want (by my assessments at least) true equality. Trumpers want the old paradigm to remain while other sides want to new paradigm to be ushered in. Problem is, both sides push in one extreme direction or the other and, at the end of the day, I see EITHER side bringing great harm.
Why is so damn hard to meet in the middle? Why CAN'T we have TRUE equality? MAGA...BLM...WOKE...it's all massive turns too far in one direction or the other and no room (or seemingly any actual desire for) middle ground.
And that's why I won't join either party. Both sides need to get their goddamn houses in order. This shit has gone on long enough.
PS: And before anyone pounces on me--I realize that some sides actually bred/led to others while others are reactions to others. So what? Every side has a responsibility to strive for true equality and I see--
I wish there were more people like you. There is so much nuance is this and you don't look at anything black and white.
shareThere are. We're just drowned out/lost in the mix because most people choose one direction or the other. I hope the day comes where we finally get a middle road president. Our country needs. BADLY.
I'm a realist. Not everything the dems want is good just the same as not everything the pubs want is bad. Both sides have their pros and cons.
The problem is--regardless of how us Joe and Jane Blow voters feel, most of the people in DC have a lot more in common with each other: they want money, first and foremost. We're mere peons to leaders of both parties. That's a fact.
Get out of my head! You're saying everything I'm thinking.
shareLol... Isn't Trump sorta the middle road though?
ie:
-Good people on both sides
-Mexicans are rapists, blah blah blah, and some, are good people
Stuff like that. The left or MSM in general seem to pick the most jarring parts of his speech or the most offensive while ignoring the whole speech in itself. I'm not saying saying he isn't biased in other areas as he sure is but I don't recall any other president that would have really said those kind of words of the current century (excluding terrorist attacks of course).
LMAO!!! Did some post-lobotomy patient hijack your account? Your posts used to be sensible and indicative of you having a modicum of intelligence. This post is a disgrace if you really believe what you wrote.
Trump isn't middle road--he's not right, left or center...unless you count him thinking of himself as the center of his own universe.
Trump is a nobody who chose republicans because it was an easy vehicle to victory. He's at heart neither a republican nor a democrat. He's nothing more than a self-serving meat sack that believes in nothing but himself, stands for nothing but himself and lives and breathes to serve only himself.
So, I guess in some sick, twisted way...yeah. He's a middle road...his own middle road leading to Trumpland.