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Leftist US professors praise Chinese internet censorship in The Atlantic op ed; "China was largely correct"; US "wrong".


And they aren't alone on the US left in praising the totalitarian Chinese system.

"The intelligentsia’s love affair with the Chinese Communist Party shows no sign of cooling, not even for a viral pandemic enabled by China’s ruling officials.

The Atlantic published an op-ed this weekend arguing that the United States has a lot to learn from China when it comes to regulating online speech. Sadly, it is nothing new for ostensibly free academics – and members of the free press, for that matter – to praise the single-party state where dissent is brutally and violently suppressed.

“Internet Speech Will Never Go Back to Normal,” reads the op-ed's headline. Its subhead adds, “In the debate over freedom versus control of the global network, China was largely correct, and the U.S. was wrong...Significant monitoring and speech control are inevitable components of a mature and flourishing internet, and governments must play a large role in these practices to ensure that the internet is compatible with a society’s norms and values."


The article continues, noting that the U.S. social media platforms that are aggressively censoring coronavirus-related misinformation are merely catching up to what the Chinese and Russians have been doing for years.

Goldsmith and Woods write:

'What is different about [online] speech regulation related to COVID-19 is the context: The problem is huge and the stakes are very high. But when the crisis is gone, there is no unregulated “normal” to return to. We live – and for several years, we have been living – in a world of serious and growing harms resulting from digital speech. Governments will not stop worrying about these harms. And private platforms will continue to expand their definition of offensive content, and will use algorithms to regulate it ever more closely. The general trend toward more speech control will not abate.

The Atlantic op-ed is not merely a clinical study in how world governments treat free speech rights in times of crises. The article is written from the perspective that China is ahead of the curve and that the U.S., with its outdated First Amendment, must change.

If you can believe it, the authors of the Atlantic piece are not alone in throwing plaudits in China's direction amid the viral pandemic the authoritarian state created. Not even close. Many in the ostensibly free press have also used the viral crises as an opportunity to cheer China's alleged leadership qualities.

“How uncomfortable is it,” MSNBC’s Chuck Todd asked in early March, “that perhaps China’s authoritarian ways did prevent this? Meaning, had China been a free and open society, this might have spread faster?”

Jacobin publisher Bhaskar Sunkara said elsewhere, “This isn’t blanket praise for an authoritarian party-state, but thank God this pandemic started in a country with a strong state that took serious public health measures. Imagine if China was run by the GOP instead of the CCP.”

That is exactly “blanket praise."

The Atlantic op-ed this weekend cheering Chinese authoritarianism is not even a first for the Atlantic.

“China has reacted to the outbreak of coronavirus in Italy by sending aid,” Atlantic staff writer Anne Applebaum noted on March 12. “The U.S. has reacted by suspending flights. Who is the superpower?”

If all of this sounds familiar, that is because it is. American academics, politicos, and the like have been praising the Chinese Communist Party for years. Recall that the New York Times’s taxi cab correspondent Thomas Friedman wrote in 2009, “One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages.”

“That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century,” he added. “It is not an accident that China is committed to overtaking us in electric cars, solar power, energy efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power.”

And this is to say nothing of the many overeager U.S. reporters and pundits who have more recently parroted outright Chinese propaganda cheering the regime's supposedly competent response to the virus and other agitprop absolving it of culpability.

So, it is not unprecedented for a mainstream publication in the U.S. to publish praise for the Chinese Communist Party. Members of America’s commentariat have been cheering this murderous, authoritarian regime for decades."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/in-the-atlantic-us-academics-praise-chinese-censorship

Original: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/what-covid-revealed-about-internet/610549/

Reminder of the Chinese communist party's role in creating the global pandemic through incompetence, coverups, and silencing whistle blowers: https://www.businessinsider.com/china-coronavirus-whistleblowers-speak-out-vanish-2020-2

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Are you there yet? I miss you.

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Are you here now?

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We’re 5 years away from the Democrat party/media openly identifying as communists.

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It's telling that even the bottom feeders on this board are apparently committed to running interference for the Chinese communists. Gone is not only the dishonest bleating about "foreign interference in our elections!" Democrats suddenly became concerned about three years ago, but even the late DNC hand wringing about Bernie Sanders praising communist dictators, something he's always done but Democrats never had a problem with before. They were just using that hammer to get rid of him. That accomplished, they can return to defending communist dictators themselves.

With no Democrat push back on crap like that quoted in the op, you may be right about the next step of openly self identifying as communist happening within a few years. But actually moving society in that direction via culture, education, and policy has already been happening, setting the stage.

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Those under 40 have been taught little to nothing about the great communist leaders of the 20th century. You know the ones who killed 100 million of their own people.

Their history/civics teachers likely spent more time on Nixon than all the communist atrocities combined.

They were selling us on the greatness of communism in the 80s and 90s. Fortunately we knew better back then. We got to watch the Soviet Union fail first hand. Today there’s nothing but praise for China, Cuba, and other wonderful “progressive” communists countries.

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Are you mentally ill? When were we getting sold communism? Trump Dick Sucker spotted. Do you let it dribble down your chin at all, or just take it like a champ?

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When teachers played Stings “the Russians” in class in school. This was common across the country. When we had Russian speakers come to our school to tell us how wonderful the Soviet Union less than 2 years before its collapse. When my college history teacher proudly bragged of being a communist. Another history teacher who proudly displayed a “nuclear freeze” bumper sticker on the wall. When another communist history teacher celebrated openly to the class that the day Reagan left office was the greatest day of his life.

We understand your ignorance and desperate need for attention but really don’t need Another Democrat party lemming with zero substance to offer. We have doggielemming for that.

Come back when you’ve finished grade school.

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Yes, they are mentally ill. But we've heard it all before. Socialism, communism, Marxism, Maoism, etc, etc, etc. They said the same thing about Obama.

Any time the dems talk about helping the working class in a time of need, repubs go full retard.

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It might help if you poor, misunderstood Demtards stopped praising communist regimes and calling for us to emulate them.

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As I recently pointed out on another thread, Keynesian Paul Samuelson, who wrote the most widely used college economics textbook of the 20th Century, predicted that that the USSR would catch up to and pass the US in GDP. He kept pushing his prediction of when this would happen further out in later editions rather than admit he was wrong, but as late as the 13th edition in 1989(!), the year the Berlin Wall fell, he wrote: "The Soviet economy is proof that, contrary to what many skeptics had earlier believed, a socialist command economy can function and even thrive."

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Our entire middle school met in the auditorium to listen to the great speakers of the USSR. Fortunately for myself I was educated in the ways of communist Russia even then. It was the mid 80s and I was fortunate enough to have parents who were educated and could correct the communist garbage my teachers would preach.

The speakers told us of the the great food and technology. A few years later we would learn from the people of the defunct Soviet Union a hamburger cost a months pay. There was no soap or paper products. There was no freedom. It’s was a living hell.

The speakers had been fooled. As always happens to ignorant left wingers hoping beyond hope that communism is great. Cuomo, Penn, Stone, have all been willfully fooled on the international stage in the same way. Praising the wonderlands of Cuba, Venezuela, China, after some pathetic 2 day VIP propaganda tour.

When it comes to setting a new standard of ignorance we can always count on the communist Democrat party and their lemmings.

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Oh now, you guys ended with a right wing circle jerk and didn't invite me? I almost feel offended.

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Luckily those professors don't have to actually work in the REAL world.

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