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The liberal (fake) news tells us we need to stop using plastic straws


...but they never explain how the straws get to the ocean.

I live at least 800 miles from the coast, so do my straws get blown there in the wind? No. Do rivers carry them there? No.

Do people at US landfills dump garbage in the ocean? No, they'd be put in prison.

Truth is LaBron James' pals, the Communist Chinese are the ones dumping plastic in the oceans.

And they also claim (in order to "explain" a lack of predicted global warming) that CO2 is being absorbed into the ocean. We can find no way to remove CO2 from the atmosphere yet somehow the ocean does it because the 0.04% atmospheric CO2 level (4 parts per 10,000) is some kind saturation point that is so overwhelming that it magically gets absorbed into the ocean?

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It's about controlling people through emotional appeals and harnessing them into action of their choosing. The exact action and its real world consequences are almost beside the point. If leftists can get the population masses doing something they want, while consuming space in the arena of discourse and within people's minds, they think they've enhanced their strategic position.

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The primary model behind the theory that co2 equals global warming is Venus. Venus’ atmosphere is 90x as dense as Earths, and is made up of 96.5% co2. Earths atmosphere is .04% co2. Of that 3.4% is produced by humans. Of that 15% is produced by the US. Termites produce 10x as much co2 than humans. Man made co2 is utterly irrelevant, as is the entire theory of man made climate change.

It’s like saying a freckle on a 4’ white kid makes them the same as Shaquille O’Neil.


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They got that idea from a 10-year-old kid's research project. This kid only called 2 plastic straw factories to get his research, and those idiots in Sacramento used that and Monterey Bay's anti-ocean-plastic campaign to get rid of plastic bags and straws.

Yeah, sure. Like anything we do in the US is gonna stop everyone in Asia from dumping plastic into the ocean. *rolls eyes*

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Plastic you put in the bin ends up in landfill. When rubbish is being transported to landfill, plastic is often blown away because it’s so lightweight. From there, it can eventually clutter around drains and enter rivers and the ocean this way.

It's not fake news.

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Really? What kind of hick town do you live in where they transport garbage via open garbage trucks that let garbage fly out?

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lolz

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I care about our environment, but the straw ban doesnt make sense. The other day at a restaurant I recieved a paper straw with plastic utensils and a paper cup with a plastic lid...

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True, it doesn't make sense. I'm sure the restaurants realize this, but they are just trying to appeal to the current trend/agenda so that they don't possibly get targeted by some wacko for hating the planet Earth.

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Some wacko? More like a mob of wackos.

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I think that is more related to microplastics: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-12/microplastic-study-reveals-global-ingestion-rates/11199498

It is more about reduction of mass used disposable plastics, such as plastic bags and straws, etc.

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It weird...to think that the straw that I used on my first trip to McDonald's circa 1975 is still in a landfill somewhere.

Scientist have no clue just how long plastic will last in the environment.

Your bones and mine will turn to dust and that plastic straw that I used in 1975 will still be...

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Plastics turn into plastic dusts too. Have a look of what I posted above.

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I just looked it up on wiki...

A plastic lid from a soda cup is estimated to take 400 years to decompose, a fishing line 600 years...bones in a coffin around 50 years.

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Plastics turn into microplastics, it does not decompose, it is still plastics. And every week we eat about a credit card size amount of microplastics. It is in bottled water, in animals, in fish and even in the air.

We are using BPA free plastic containers to keep foods, but I bet the microplastics we eat everyday is not BPA free.

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Fortunately for us the micorplastics seem to be inert and pass through the digestive system without causing harm

60 minutes recently featured a person who has developed a plastic that can more readily breaks down in nature.

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