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It was a good topic. I'm finding all of the Bakers Dozen games are moving quite a bit more slowly than they once did. Getting #13 is tough because I think people don't want to start a new game. You might want to edit the thread title with CLOSED at the beginning so people are aware you've closed it.

posted a month ago in General Discussion

Hello again, roger1/ecarle! I'm very sorry that you lost ecarle, and I hope you can get back into that account! The General Discussion board occasionally talks about who is the "dean" of Movie Chat. You're the provost, even going back to the IMDb days! Please forgive my delay in replying. I had a stressful work week, but actually they are all stressful to be honest. You said you wanted punishment for Tony. I felt that way about Don Draper. Even though he had the occasional moment of goodness (I felt particularly empathetic towards him in that amazingly beautiful Carousel pitch scene with the Kodak execs), he was deeply flawed. I remember an episode when Betty, the ice queen she was, told Don he was not a "good person." I find it ironic that Betty seemed to get the definitive kick in the gut with her cancer diagnosis while Don emerged stronger than ever after his vision quest. I didn't pick up on the Hitchcock allusions in season 2 of Mad Men, or maybe I did and have forgotten! I will look for those when I rewatch. You draw excellent connections between David Chase and Hitchcock. I am very impressed at how much nuance you pick up in the shows that are connections to others. How have you acquired all of your knowledge that helps you make all of these connections?

posted a month ago in Northern Exposure (1990)

1. Jaws: The Revenge (1987) The shark explodes after being stabbed by the bowsprit of the boat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfPQpDv_44U 2. Batman & Robin (1997) The Bat Credit Card lol https://youtu.be/dcukDDDhuYk?si=odGvExWPNPMn1s61 3. Rocky III (1982) - Rocky miraculously becomes able to take Clubber Lang's punches during the second fight. https://youtu.be/wM-lOVgoUqI?si=8QMw9U1mB03iHax7 4. Trading Places (1983) A fave movie, but the trading floor scene defies logic as they never would have been allowed there, let alone accomplish what they did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLySXTIBS3c 5. Speed (1994) Great action flick. The bus jump scene defies the laws of physics, though. https://youtu.be/dKJa-KQNjQU?si=Cnki_5Ks4ppVJpV8 6. Skyfall (2012) Yes, Bond has nine lives, but getting shot and falling a couple hundred feet into water should've done him in. https://youtu.be/XoomvWXunRc?t=61 7. Drag Me to Hell (2009) Nobody hangs an anvil from the ceiling of a barn. https://youtu.be/SBcOnM5NOD0?si=1Iw6hIV_68GJE1zz 8. Air Force One (1997) - kind of the entire movie, but this scene here (especially around the 1:55 mark): https://youtu.be/5RfBv2r6jJY?si=KfMJGtG8UXfUW7BB 9. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) Indy survives a nuclear blast by hiding in a refrigerator. https://youtu.be/jn4Vhkmb4Lw?si=2KzxRkg4A9xeDbJR 10. Into the Storm (2014) A tornado triple threat wasn't enough. One had to become a fire twister. https://youtu.be/Gak8Qu3u3YY?t=160 11. Mac and Me (1988) An alien and child go into a McDonalds and a well choreographed dance party ensues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPgRnFg8ZTU 12. Salt (2010) After fighting Winter earlier and somehow surviving that, Salt somehow manages to asphyxiate him with her handcuff chain (which happens to be long and thick enough for Mr. T to wear) while hanging off a high staircase landing. https://youtu.be/fV5sIGry9gM?t=316

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion

Agree! The show crafted an intimacy between viewer, town, and characters that is a great comfort. This is why I only allow myself one episode a day! I want to live in Cicely longer rather than a shorter time with a binge watch! I also identified with Joel's culture shock, but mine was delayed. When I moved to where I live now just a week before the very final episode, I was thrown into an unfamiliar and uncomfortable environment. It took me years to adapt.

posted 2 months ago in Northern Exposure (1990)

You have a couple of options to get the original music, Keelai. Amazon Prime has the series with the original music, but I've heard it's only about 80% complete. So far, all of the music I've expected to hear based on my memory of the show's first run such as "At Last" has been kept. The second option is to get yourself a region free DVD player and buy either the UK or German DVD/BluRay of the series. All of the original music has been preserved for some reason in these countries! It is truly a great series and was ahead of its time. My recent rewatch has been a pleasant surprise to see how well it has held up after 30 years. Most of my rewatch shows don't fare so well.

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion

Great job, everyone! sadpopcorn, I look forward to your topic in the next game!

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion

I looked up David Chase and learned that he has done precious little since The Sopranos just like you said. That could be due to his wealth from The Sopranos, or maybe he's just difficult? Picky? That is interesting to me that future show runners had to promise to not do such a vague final scene. By the way, would you care to say what would be your ideal final Sopranos scene? Superb work stretching the analysis to four shows! I have not watched Breaking Bad, but it has been highly recommended by several people. Knowing there are clear conclusions puts it higher on the watch list. I hope you don't mind that I say this, but you have an identical posting style with the quotes and an encyclopedic knowledge just like another poster I've seen here -- ecarle. I also see that you post a lot about Hitchcock movies just like he does. I love Hitchcock myself. Vertigo is tops for me of his filmography. Maybe I'll see you around on some of the Hitchcock boards! Thanks again for a great discussion! :)

posted 2 months ago in Northern Exposure (1990)

Great research on who possibly influenced whom regarding the dissipating story lines. You have proven the disappearing plot lines in The Sopranos occurred prior to Matthew Weiner's arrival. I should've known you'd also have a wealth of information about Mad Men! Your analysis of the Mad Men finale as Don's vision quest makes so much sense to me! It does seem that cutting to the Coke commercial means that Don could leave advertising, but it would never leave him. Even when he's so far away in body and spirit from Madison Avenue, he can't help but be inspired and return with this idea that takes over the world. Thanks for bringing this clarity! You are correct that the Don/Dick mystery was resolved enough, but in my world of preferring neat and tidy closures, I kept waiting until the last moment for the other shoe to drop and Don to be exposed to everyone beyond a shadow of a doubt. I was expecting a court martial and decision on his deserter status with possible jail time like you said. By the way, another disappearing plot line that still haunts my thoughts is Pete, Peggy, and their baby. Maybe Weiner's (and Chase's) style of putting plots on paths to eventual nowhere is a nod to how things are in life. People don't get closure on situations and relationships many, many times. Goals and dreams drop away, people disappear, etc. Speaking for myself, I wonder what drives my desire for clear-cut conclusions to books, TV, movies. What an amazing story of your Uncle Don and connection to Mad Men! I imagined my mother in that office when I watched. She worked from 1964-1969 in accounts receivable for Genesco at their headquarters in Nashville. She didn't watch the show, but I asked her about the dynamics the show presented for the female characters. She said those kinds of things happened, but not to her. The show made my mother before her marriage to my dad more real to me. I'm going to borrow your idea to put... CONT

posted 2 months ago in Northern Exposure (1990)

1. Rocky II (1979) https://youtu.be/1fygi1cOlZY?t=326 2. Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me (1999) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTADcRFsaAk 3. Back to the Future Part II (1989) https://youtu.be/NImvdstX8GY?si=1VEr4Ca48Ye2M9zs 4. The Karate Kid Part II (1986) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k87d2_6eFag 5. Incredibles 2 (2018) https://youtu.be/6j0fyafl3w0?si=Xkt2crBByHs184lu 6. Quantum of Solace (2008) https://youtu.be/yfYC_CBNtiM 7. Friday the 13th - The Final Chapter (1984) 8. Crank: High Voltage (2009) https://youtu.be/AdCxtQmdx9s?si=gQJnHvTIDzRC3avN 9. Army of Darkness (1992) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQHpYlZ8LQw&t=139s 10. After the Thin Man (1936) https://youtu.be/Lwp3bzj9s5s?t=94

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion

I have really enjoyed reading your breakdown and analysis. I know this took time, and I appreciate it! You wrote of all the loose ends left in the Sopranos, and David Chase's attack on fans for wanting closure. I have a theory about this... Have you ever watched Mad Men? Matthew Weiner created, produced, directed, and wrote that show. It relied heavily on story lines that just floated out into the ether never to be touched on again that made so many fans wonder what ever became of them. Mad Men also had a confusing series finale that drove people to find out what it meant. I remember watching it and thinking it was just odd. The overarching question about Don Draper that underpinned Mad Men from the very first episode was never resolved. So, I said all that to say this.....is it possible Matthew Weiner was responsible for the dissipating story lines and weak, confusing finale for The Sopranos? You have already established that David Chase is heavily influenced by others' work and ideas. It seems plausible to me that he picked up Matthew Weiner's style for that finale. When somebody has a series in their hands that is known for pushing boundaries, I think the "soft" endings for both The Sopranos and Mad Men are a bit too esoteric. It sounds like Chase takes his art a bit too seriously and gets angry when the commoners don't care for what he's dishing up. It's quite the cool thing that we've drawn connections across three different TV shows. This has been fun!

posted 2 months ago in Northern Exposure (1990)

Thanks for finding that. This scene is one that fans of Northern Exposure still talk about and love, so Ron and Eric dancing together right in the camera's face is a bit of a jar. They were in so few episodes of the series overall, but they feature so prominently in this scene. Their relationship was just a vehicle to further characterize Maurice (the guy in the leather jacket standing with them). Maurice is on the record often of not approving of their lifestyle. My favorite part of the scene is when Joel swings Maggie out really far on the dance floor then pulls her in really close. Setting this to "At Last" gives me chills, in a good way. The show was just recently released on streaming for the first time, and the reason was the battle over music rights. "At Last" is just ONE of the amazing songs they used in the show.

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion

I used to live across the street from a corn field and fell in love with the sound it made when the wind would blow. Adding to that, hearing the irrigation system watering the field was another soothing sound. Both were especially calming at night when the sights weren't competing with the sounds, and I really missed them when I moved.

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion

I have some pictures of me and my sister when we were children in the 1980s standing beside the Truckee River. We were visiting Nevada because my dad fell in love with it after he was at NAS Fallon. I have very fond memories of that trip.

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion

I was surprised nobody claimed it!

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion

I don't blame you!

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion

1. Police Squad! (1982) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOvd4sjwwIQ 2. Seinfeld https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS0P9XkWNoQ 3. Little Shop of Horrors (1986) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVlGsQ7kl6Q 4. Lethal Weapon 4 (1998) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx_zAuP21DM 5. Batman: The Animated Series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAD9iC2ZF28 6. The Dentist (1996) https://youtu.be/g5NCGeg18VI?si=zaBDGu7F7GSWNfwf 7. Psych (2006) https://youtu.be/wYctVr8R2TM?si=ARPtERWn2OfBDwdz 8. Diamonds Are Forever (1971) https://ultimate-007.tumblr.com/image/672690932110508032 9. Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990) https://youtu.be/hbv_jheeMTY?si=TS5ozPsAO5d5bxaj 10. Monk ("Mr. Monk Goes to the Dentist" - S04E15) https://youtu.be/SKk8SB3ffEI?t=111 11. The Whole Nine Yards (2000) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU6hcP-Go3g 12. Finding Nemo (2003) https://youtu.be/IYEQCDt5PYY?si=UVAjWClOujQgAowA 13. Marathon Man (1976) https://youtu.be/2xBJERznOgA?t=58

posted 2 months ago in General Discussion