What people refuse to accept is that with African slaves and Mexican cheap labour - American would NOT be the country it is. It was formed on the backs of those people who they continue to disrespect. Think nannies, cleaning ladies and gardeners for the rich, people who toil in the fields to put food on YOUR table working for next to nothing & many live in squalid conditions. So many contribute so much, raise their kids to part of the American dream who go on to higher education become teachers, lawyers etc. I am so sick of Americans not knowing their own history or the benefit they get from these so-called illegals. Would any one of them be willing to work 10 hrs days in the boiling heat to pick those crops? The answer is bloody hell no.

posted 2 years ago in Giant (1956)

YES I agree ... things had to be her way because she felt superior in some way.

posted 2 years ago in The Way We Were (1973)

I so agree and from Hubble's point of view, I have to wonder if he didn't feel like a failure because he could never meet her expectations of who she THOUGHT he should/ could be, not seeing who he really was and that he had limitations, fears, lack of confidence etc. He was a settler anything that didn't come easily he couldn't bring himself to fight for it seemed.

posted 2 years ago in The Way We Were (1973)

I have so enjoyed reading all of the opinions on The Way We Were. I believe that the mistake some people may be making is dealing with this subject as though they were a real life couple. They were two people in a story written by someone who was making a point. To disregard his message is counterintuitive. They are not a real couple, they are a made up couple out of the mind a man who used them to tell a story he wanted told. Hubble loved Katie and Katie loved Hubble. However, I believe that Hubble admired Katie and on some level was jealous of her for values, believing in things so deeply and having the courage to stand up and act on her beliefs. He knew he wasn't as good as her on some level I think. His friend even says something like "... you'll never find another like her" after they split and he was so obviously a broken man himself. The way the characters were written; as two very very different people that basically exhausted one another, and having to turn themselves into pretzels to be with the other, I'm not sure how they could have made it long term with the vast difference in values 'in the real world'. Its just too exhausting. While Hubble's lack of confidence, ambition or courage. or the fact that he really didn't stand for anything, may be as true as Katie's lack of discretion, judgemental nature and difficult firebrand personality, if Laurent(?) said it was about the McCarthy era in Hollywood and the choices people had to make, the lives and marriages ruined, then that is what its about. There isn't really much room for speculation or personal conjecture, though is a fantastic discussion. Maybe as great as Redford and Streisand are they didn't communicate their onscreen relationship well enough, maybe it was Pollock's direction! I find it interesting the Pollock purposely left out a very key clue to the end of their relationship and I wonder why. Its so obvious at the end that Hubble is broken seeing her, while in classic Katie fashion she's latched onto something else to fight for and about. Anyways, that's my opinion.

posted 2 years ago in The Way We Were (1973)