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Kind of misses the point of the whole trilogy. Everything is a 'matrix', a VR one or not. I don't think they'll go down this route, as theres nothing to gain from it, its never ending and just stright avoids dealing with the free will/determinism/self problem. Personally i think most trans people wouldn't like the reason the wachowskis are trans. You say it's not 'natural'. What is natural? And why does that matter? Lana has always been the main force behind the matrix films, especially when it comes to the philosophy and ideas that are key to to whole film series. These sequels, and prequels i believe, would have been written a long time ago too. What do u mean about neo and trinity? This is very true. But the timing of the sequels made it a difficult sale, basically post 9/11. Hollywoods shift to the marvel superhero isn't an accident, you get very few anti hero films nowdays and the sequels were a whole other level, beyond just anti hero, it basically ripped away any 'victory' from the first film. People didn't want that from a blockbuster then, maybe not ever. For me the first holds so much less meaning without the sequels. Yes clunky and self indulgent, but wide provocative, spralling philosophy wrapped round a great original story. The sequels were not bad. The first is practically meaningless on its own. I would say they were before there time and def not 'of the time' with what was happening politcally and socially in the west at the time of release, which is why they were recieved so poorly imo. They have big flaws for sure, mainly through self indulgence from the wachowskis. The cave rave for a starts. But as a whole, theyre great. There's nothing else like them, nothing that crams that much philosophy into hollywood action movies. I thought it looked like satis dad. Think it's his 'rsi' so he doesn't recognise his true self, and remember he's the one. The machines would be keen to study neo and satis dad as they were both programs not doing what they were supposed to be doing. The trans allegory stuff is pretty heavy through that trailer, i really hope they don't make it all about that. It looks like neo has been put into another version of the matrix, maybe the same one as the end of 3 or maybe a much smaller one, maybe just to study him. The reflection in the mirror could be how he sees himself, rather than his 'true self', which the audience sees. The opening scene is with a shrink, no doubt part of the system thats actually there to stop him from discovering his 'true self'. Sounds very cliche already. That would surprise me tho. The wachowskis, Lana especially, are very hardcore on their philosophy. Huge cop out if the film is as basic as that. View all replies >