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I think it's a safe bet her role will be greatly diminished. Frankly she and Iger both should've been fired for running the franchise into the ground, but maybe they are covering for each other. Or both know each could retaliate if one tried to assign blame. :)
In any case the writing is on the wall, bigly. That photo further up is telling. Another example: out of curiosity checked Reddit's SW forum this AM -- vast majority of topics on page 1 are about the Mandalorian. The rest are mostly about the OT and PT. Only 2 of them about the KK trilogy. The fanbase has already divested itself of the ST.
Ah, they must've cheaped out on the cat litter. Good for saving money, but the cast probably hated having to use it. I know my cats do. Plus it's much worse to try to clean.
Don't forget 4. The cast's response to that YouTube livestream interviewer asking them to express their reaction to the ending without words.
That was beautiful and the biggest dead-canary-in-the-coalmine signal yet. The screenshot of it that's in most of the articles about it is my new wallpaper. It's given me smiles at work the last couple days. :)
I recall the 2011 Muppets movie actually being well received at the time, though likely because it was mostly a well crafted nostalgia trip, not unlike TFA. Its 2014 sequel didn't do as well, and the TV show that came after, where the Muppets became liberals and began things like supporting abortion and bashing FOX news, bombed harder than a Lancaster in Dresden.
Since then, no, I believe we have not heard anything from the Muppets. I actually wasn't even aware of the ill fated TV show til I stumbled on it while searching the 2 movies just now. Looks like another textbook case of getting woke and going broke.
Modern Disney is indeed poison in the long run. The kind of "creative" company that buys established work made by better talent and ultimately runs it into the ground for pure profit. :(
CATS, of course! I've got my ticket!
(Disclaimer: no I don't)
I wouldn't say pointless but certainly tougher to get invested in now that we know her fate. I probably won't go to the theater for it. This movie definitely should've been made before Endgame.
I agree; SJ might be another case of 'actress whose beliefs and personality don't match her character at all' but I find her quite fit and attractive and her characters' fights are believable and done well - i'm no martial arts expert but I can tell BW uses some kind of style involving using her body weight to flip and throw people around -- how someone might realistically effectively fight bigger, stronger opponents.
An interesting take. Depending on how much the Oracle really foresaw, she is either the true hero, or villain.
You could say her actions helped save Zion - knowing Neo would forsake it out of love for Trinity, she allowed Smith to be created to give Neo leverage to prevent its destruction in the wake of his choice - or her actions kept humanity enslaved, by allowing the cycle to ultimately continue; maybe out of knowledge or belief the humans would lose to the machines (again) in outright war, or maybe she truly sides with the Architect and believes humanity is best kept in a panopticon.
In either case it makes Neo's unexplained revival in the 1st movie a key point. Just how did that happen, and what compelled him to "imprint onto" and destroy Smith how he did, setting everything in motion? Did the Oracle directly, invisibly, intervene?
They don't necessarily. But lots of families go to the movies over Christmas.
On an unrelated note I'm seeing a trend of joke comments about looking forward to Cats. How funny would it be if SW boycotters somehow organized a movement to prop up that dubious movie instead, ha.
I still wouldn't say it's guaranteed; it still carries the baggage of TLJ and I doubt true (ex-)fans are fooled by Palpatine's return signifying the revelation of some grand story plan, more like "in case of emergency, resurrect popular character".
And if the final cut is indeed as bad as the rumors I'd bet on another huge 2nd week BO drop.
Much as I'd like to see it fail to hit $1B, it seems likely. It'll be the family film of Christmas weekend, and without competition in that vein except maybe from Jumanji. Disney of course will strongarm theaters into dedicating hugely disproportionate screen time to it, and commence the mother of all marketing pushes. Rey will be on every single screen and other 2d surface observable by the human eye between now and January.
It'll be those things, versus the combination of old fan boycotting and newcomer apathy. Personally I'd bet on ~$750M. But I'm probably biased. :)
If I were advising the "fandom menace" on strategy, I'd say sell your kids and families on Jumanji or even a Frozen 2 encore viewing, if planning a movie outing before Christmas; after Christmas, possibly add Spies in Disguise to that list.
It does, doesn't it? There's also the fact, I recently found, that when Disney bought SW, FOX still had distribution rights to the OT movies in perpetuity. So they had even <i>more</i> reason to kill-and-replace them in the public mindshare. Now Disney owns FOX, too, but the damage is already done. :(
I think I would add Cars 3 to that list. Rather than tear down Lightning, the movie has him gracefully accept it's his time to step into the role of mentor and pass the torch.
T:DF brought that movie to my mind, actually. Were Miller less of a tool he might've had Terminator go "woke", if he must've, more tactfully this way. All he would've had to do was make the story something like John Connor had to be protected because he ultimately saves the life of the "true" future leader of the resistance, or something.
SW had always been whimsically inconsistent with the level of tech in any given place. But to have wheeled speeders, yet jetpack troopers, in the <i>same scene</i>? C'mon. That's up there with the space horse posse riding in the vacuum of a ship's exterior.
It's like they've <i>tried</i> for full pants-on-head direction to finish killing off the franchise.
Ha! Thanks for the mental image.
They'll be stymied when the First Order puts up a fake toll booth on the outside of the ship and Rose has to send someone back for a shitload of dimes.
Agreed! Even though a few scenes are just straight copies from the movies that inspired it, it is still a fun and entertaining mostly original pastiche. And the theme song kicks ass. :)
"Pink fluffy space horses, dancing on spaaaceships"... LOL.
It is just a rumor, but a believable one. It would be in line with the ignominious end Disney's been giving everything else from the OT and PT, likely because they don't want to pay Lucas his contractual cut from using anything from the previous films. Following the money usually leads to the truth.
Disney's treating SW with all the reverence of Hasbro and Transformers, unceremoniously killing off characters and iconic ships to make way for new toys. (Excepting of course when a film tanks so hard they need to resurrect already-dead ones to lure fans back, hah.)
I just watched it on video last weekend. I'd heard some good things, but I would say no.
I've had heartburn scarier than this movie. 100% predictable jump scares, CG clowns biting CG arms off, etc.
However I did kind of enjoy it as a metaphorical and fairly raw story of a group of kids learning to face their fears.
I think my favorite part was <spoiler>IT taking on the face of Bev's heavily implied molesting father in the final battle. I laughed and thought "big tactical error, that won't scare her, but make her mad!" </spoiler>