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Because they didn’t want the train to be held up, causing them to miss their connection. They were entirely unwilling to inconvenience themselves — particularly on Iris’s behalf because they disliked her so much.
There was an off-stage funeral. Bertie’s cousin, the marquess of Hexam.
Great explication
Great!
You’re referring to the objections about the play, Lover’s Vows. If the modern audience is bewildered it is because they clearly do not understand what is taking place. In addition to going against what they all know to be their father’s expectations of the behavior of his children, there are other, more serious concerns.
The impropriety of young ladies and gentlemen acting in scenes together that are very inappropriate in that era is no small thing. Modern viewers who cannot grasp the implications may well roll their eyes, but unfortunately they are missing the plot. Not only does it “look bad” but it also puts the lady’s reputation at risk. The concern is very real that a man would take advantage of the situation (and a lady allow him) to take liberties with the female cast members — which is exactly what happened.
These events planted the seeds of the eventual ruination of Maria Bertram Rushworth. After her elopement with Crawford, bringing about the irrevocable loss of her reputation, she had to spend the rest of her life shut away in the country, by herself except for the company of Aunt Norris. Punishment indeed.
Yes, Col Fitzwilliam was indeed more pleasant than this character. His manners and conduct were so much better.
Austen’s Col F is not supposed to be handsome.
Austen’s Col F is not supposed to be rich.
However, Austen’s Col F is supposed to be pleasant, amiable, and have a pleasing manner.
This Col Fitzwilliam is also too rich. Austen makes it clear that Col F. needs to marry well because he has no money, being a younger son. His father’s earldom and money will pass to his elder brother. Yes this Col. F appears to have financial resources far beyond what Austen described. Darcy is compelled to approve the match of his sister and cousin based mostly on his wealth.
Pemberley and Lizzy ARE gloomy. Because a murder was committed on the estate and the suspect/convicted murderer is Darcy’s brother-in-law.
That puts the Darcy family in social jeopardy. Their position is extremely precarious. So much is at stake. And because of the grandfather’s profligacy (partying, gambling) the estate had been in jeopardy before and had only recently become “safe.”
Darcy and Lizzy have enormous responsibility, not only to their son and Georgiana, but also all of their employees and their families, plus also to the families of all the shopkeepers and tradespeople who earn their livings because of the success of the estate.
Lizzy is overcome with worry because she feels responsible, because it’s her ridiculous sister and her terrible brother in law who bring all this misery and worry upon the estate. Lizzy feels it’s all her fault. So yes, she is gloomy.
Exactly! I also found it insulting, as though the filmmakers didn’t trust the audience enough to understand the emotions of the scene.
The music reminded me of the type in cheap tv westerns from the 1960s.
I was recently rereading excerpt from Austen’s novel and found myself, once again, marveling at how Jane and Lizzy turned out so well when the mother has no sense of propriety at all, and the father never lifts a finger to prevent the family becoming the object of scorn and ridicule. He keeps to his library to hide from the nonsense and noise, but never exerts himself to steer the family on course.
Lydia and her mother are very cringey and attention-seeking in Austen’s novel and in filmed Versions of it.
That’s the point in this production (and perhaps in PD James’s novel— I haven’t read it). It comes from Austen’s novel. Lydia and Mrs B are the reason why Darcy convinces Bingley to quit Netherfield. They always ignore the rules of propriety and recklessly cause scenes that create serious problems for their family’s reputation.
This time Lydia is so attention-seeking that she’s endangering her husband’s case and consequently his life, but making scenes and being the center of attention are much more important to her. She isn’t willing to STFU when told she must be careful while the magistrate is there because it’s always all about her.
Yes, that was satisfying! And that they had the doctor give her enough sleeping drafts to knock out a horse! And Mrs. Bennet too, (per Mr Bennet’s request lol.)
Not counting the flashback scenes from before Lizzy and Darcy married, I counted five gowns but they’re all the same color. That’s probably more gowns than any of the other characters had.
This costume designer is notorious for doing this. She gives the actresses far too much input into their costumes. She did the same exact thing on Poldark. In the first couple seasons of the program she made all Demelza’s costumes the same shade of mustard yellow. And Elizabeth’s were all the same shade of blue/green. It’s kind of ridiculous to spend all that money on silk costumes and then make them all the same color.
Yes, it’s Lizzy’s corset, which I think it too long for the regency era but I’m not going to make a federal case out of a corset being incorrect. (eyeroll)
You mean this one?
https://recycledmoviecostumes.tumblr.com/post/86828038411/this-heavily-embroidered-regency-era-costume-is-a
The 2002 is the chocolate box version. This one, 2001, is grittier, which makes much more sense given it’s a Dickens piece.
That said, I can always find something to appreciate about every version of every story — even the horrible Reese Witherspoon bersion of Vanity Fair (although, in the case of VF, very little!)
Too busy diddling married men
Sabina Franklyn is in one of the Miss Marple films from the 1980s, The Moving Finger. She is absolutely lovely.
I also watched her in Covington Cross, a short-lived swashbuckling Tv series. Again, she looked gorgeous and was a joy to watch.
If the franchise continues, Fellowes will continue with time moving slowly. He has stated before that he didn’t want to go into ww2 era. That’s why after ww1 ended on the show, the pace of the story slowed down in time, moving ahead only ten years.
I think if they do another film, it would be fun to see the Prince of Wales again. He doesn’t meet Wallis Simpson until 1934, so maybe they could show him with Thelma Morgan or Freda Dudley Ward again
Probably because Goode wasn’t available for the entire shoot. He was probably working on another project and only available for a couple of days.