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Well from that explanation I guess I understand better now, but from that book excerpt above you got to admit the way Quentin handled it was kind of crass and childish don't you think?
Story credit and screenplay credit are not the same thing, there's a difference. Mere story content and contributing lines of dialogue and complete scenes logically merit a full hand in the screenplay its self and not mere story elements.
Aside from the gold watch story (and the whole section of dialogue in the motel bathroom where Butch and Fabienne discuss where they can afford to go with the money); the missed bullets in the apartment, the accidental shooting in the car and the gimp were all Avary's brainchild. So bottom line, if a screenplay contains significant contributions from someone that crucially impact the flow of the story isn't it logical that they are rightly entitled to full co-writing credit and shouldn't be so crassly and childishly hornswoggled out of it in place of a measly 'story by' credit as should be obvious from the book excerpt above?
Read this book excerpt and you'll understand.
Start reading at "When he was going into production on Pulp, just into 1994,"
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Read on to "Counters Tarantino, "The things that Roger thinks are betrayal".
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[quote]Or is there some kind of allegory to "they live among us" or something?[/quote]I think you nailed it.
*sigh* ...yeah, if only the world were that simple.
If you really appreciate it and grasp the full essence of what it is you'd know readily that it's not remotely that black and white. He used voice actors and added new special effects to change the way the story plays out and the characterization of Luke and re ordered the scenes absolutely for the better.
Seems like just a pathetic little coward plain and simple. In the case of people like Anthony Bourdain it could be argued that they were in a state of being so genuinely overcome with grief and beside themselves that their actions were not their own, but in Kappy's case it's apparent he knew what he was doing and he actively chose to do it.
Just checked out those deleted scenes, and while that one with Cameron does add context I think that whole thing (and the scenes between Allyson and Oscar relating to it) and the other scenes I mentioned above all would have been better off as deleted scenes on the blu ray instead of in the movie.
Haha I think that's what they should have called this movie, GUNS GUNS GUNS, I think it would have been a fitting title. Funny story: When I was a kid my dad was flipping through the channels and this movie with lots of guns and action came on and me being a fan of guns and action asked him what the name of the movie was, naturally he had no idea so on the spur of the moment he just said "Guns Guns Guns", and being the innocent kid I was I believed him. It turned out to be the low budget Michael Dudikoff movie The Human Shield.
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