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It deserves a 6 or 7. Serviceable espionage movie. Hurt a little by Jlaw but healed by her choice nudity and the always sublime Jirons.
What about people like me that think the new Trek is terrible? I have no trouble with diverse casting and even like the lead actress. But I hate the new Trek and get tired of its quality/lack-of being lumped into some constant racism accusation war.
As far as BP goes, since I consider it to be a medium weight, decent movie, the flag waving at both extremes rings false. The paranoid race alarmists come off as just as unhinged as the "BP is greatest movie of all time!!11!!1" The strong feelings and theories over such an average movie are tedious.
No force ghost ability to effect real world.
No FTL ramming shitting all over every SW combat before it.
Let burn-out Carrie die. Also fewer lines from her through her clenched teeth.
Keep Akbar alive.
Rose is ok but relegate her to only the scene of her busting Finn. No more than that!
No Canto Bite at all.
Finn and Poe infiltrate dreadnaught and cat/mouse with Phasma.
No Dern.
Luke shows up in person to fight.
Rey struggle to learn anything.
Kylo less whiney.
Some lightsabers hitting each other.
Some fucking remorse from Luke when he hears of Han's death.
Some fucking joy from Luke when he sees his old friend Chewy.
Snoke lives.
No green/blue milk.
75% fewer jokes.
Serious First Order instead of patriarchy punching bag.
No idiotic slow-space-chase.
Some actual fighting by the salt speeders. They did nothing but make a show.
Hmm. I don't see the connection to the Sanctums. London is a major city of the world. Too thin.
As to BP's power set, I don't mind upgrades. In fact I really liked the way they set up Shuri as sort of the Q to his Bond. The stasis orbs he used at the beginning were awesome. I just think that they went too far with the damage absorption. BP is an agile fighter. That is the fundamental description of what he "does." They gave him a power that makes that ability moot. He could just stroll toward his opponents now. Who needs the jumping around? Would Hawkeye care at all about his bow if he had the strength of the Hulk? So upgrades are cool but they went too far. I did not hear anything about "limitations" so perhaps it is another thing I missed. I need to watch it again I guess.
It would have been cool if Shuri did in fact neutralize the absorption ability on Eric's suit. Then Eric learn from that and do it to BP in their fight. Or BP disabling it in the end fight so that it overloads and jacks Eric up; That would set them up for eschewing its use in future movies. As it stands, it was a small flaw to me in the story and a big flaw in the treatment of the character.
To me it wasn't just the end fight that looked bad. BP's fights in general were bad. Even in the nearly perfect Korea segment of the film. His casino fight was lacking. The start of the movie showed what was nearly cool BP fighting but shrouded in darkness and blur. sigh
T'Challa can be smitten with Nakia without acting like a teenager. I felt it was out of character.
The only fight I thought was actually "good" was when Okoye started wooping ass in the casino. A few other fights were just ok and all of BP's fights sucked. They don't have to be "over the top" to be good fights. They just have to be good.
I, too, only saw it once. Thanks for clearing up the recipients of the shipments. I must have missed that.
"Coincidental connections with the seats of supernatural power via Dr. Strange and the sanctums"?? I must have missed that too. Explain?
I heard opposing opinions of the current BP comic so I didn't add it to my pull. But I recently heard that Cristos Gage has been writing for it. I am a huge Gage fan so I'll check it out. However, whether in the comic or in the film, I do not like them giving Black Panther damage absorption. That is like giving Black Widow the speed of Flash. It casts a hard shadow over the traditional powers of the character. Like in Wonder Woman it feels like they had to change the character to fit the story the writers had in mind rather than writing the story to fit the character.
Speaking of Shuri (whom I liked), why was she attacking Killmonger when she knows about the damage absorption? She designed it for chrissake!
I found it to be average and thus only a little boring at times.
Story: Just ok. Worked in most ways but started failing when T'Challa's closest confidant went from isolationist to siding with the villain. Also Killmonger is shipping the Wakandan tech out to ... who? To random black people? Also adding a new "pulse" power to Black Panther like they added a new "pulse" power to Wonder Woman. Lazy writers that cannot deal with what they have on their plate. Superman's chest emblem?
Visuals: Outstanding except for several moments of very bad CGI
Characters: All great except for Forrest Whitaker's. Also the CIA guy was little lame.
Narrative: I liked it other than the fact that this advanced society chooses its leaders by trial by combat. Stupid. Also did not like that they made T'Challa freeze up because of love. I prefer regal, in control T'Challa. Not wide-eyed love struck teen style T'Challa. The romantic connection was fine. The portrayal was ill concieved.
Action: Mixed bag. The Korea stuff was great. One of the trial fights was good. Killmonger's heist scenes with Clau were cool too. All the Black Panther fights were boring and substandard. Even the good stuff wasn't all that high in quality. Disappointing.
Relatability: Who cares? Interesting that this is one of your chosen criteria. I didn't have to relate to my favorite movie Raiders of the Lost Ark for it to be my favorite. Relating to a movie is in no way a measure of its quality or "how boring it is"
Motivations: These were well established except where noted above (Killmonger's endgame and the inexplicable motivational flipflop of T'Challa's buddy) Overall very good.
Performances: Excellent. Everyone other than Forrest Whitaker (please stop casting him) did a great job.
The fix that would have made BP a great movie instead of an average Marvel flick would be to have made the action better. The fights were mostly bad.
Pent up demand for representation? Is that what it shows? That was the narrative before the movie even came out. Look for more movies coming soon that set up what the coming phenomenon is going to be and what we are to think about it. What it shows is how to properly market a property.
BP was decent. I hope it makes lots more money ... or not. I don't care. It wasn't "amazing" nor was it some kind of racial triumph. It was middle of the road Marvel stuff. I'd watch a sequel.