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Sure but in the end audience's reception does not by default determine which film is better. Especially a site like imdb where you can manipulate ratings.
The Force Awakens made more more money than any Nolan film do you think it is a better film than anything he has done?
And simply because the audience prefers it does not mean it is by default superior now does it? The critical acclaim has weight to it as well. I strongly believe you think it has relevance simply because you like Nolan.
the discussion which you brought up earlier was critical acclaim and box office. Imdb has absolutely no critics on it therefore it is irrelevant.
Looper beats The Dark Knight Rises critically across the board. Only area The Dark Knight Rises wins is box office. Which yeah it is a Batman film of course it would make more cash.
Inception, and Interstellar while financially successful films do not make as much as the Dark Knight or the Dark Knight Rises. The reason is quite obvious.
I already proved that was not the case. Looper and Last Jedi actually beat a lot of Nolan's films critically.
Now overall Nolan has the edge because of Dunkirk, The Dark Knight and Memento. Thing is both Last Jedi and Looper beat the rest of his films critically.
While Nolan is overall at this moment better the edge is not as big as you like to try and make it seem.
Are we using Oscar nominations or wins as a means to determine who is better? Because if that is the case you know there are directors that far surpass Nolan in that regard correct?
I disagree. It is doing fine. I mean it did get critical acclaim after all. Which is something you applauded Nolan for getting. So I believe it is just fine. Last Jedi got some pretty solid critical acclaim as well.
Sure but why is this a competition? There are directors that have more career accomplishments than Nolan.
Imdb is not a critical website which is what you mentioned earlier on in the post. You talked critical reception and box office.
Box office wise obviously Nolan has that because he has had the chance to do huge blockbusters many times. Johnson only has had one which was the Last Jedi.
You claimed none of Johnson's work could stand up to anything Nolan has ever done. I showed that was not true. Looper beats Batman Begins, The Prestige, The Dark Knight Rises, and Interstellar on RT and MC. The Dark Knight, Dunkirk, and Memento are the only films that beat it critically.
You said MC so I assume you meant metacritic. Looper has a higher metacritic score than most of Nolan's work. The only one beating Looper on metacritic would be Dunkirk.
MC numbers? You talking metacritic? Again Johnson's resume is not as long. It is a bit unfair to compare someone with a longer resume to someone who barely has anything. I never said Johnson was on Nolan's level I simply found your comparison misplaced.
So are imdb numbers and box office the end all be all? I thought you mentioned critical reception earlier? Imdb has no critics on it. You said Nolan has never made a critical or financial failure. In order to check critical reception you do not go to imdb...
By what metric are you using to measure the films? Rian Johnson has made critical hits just like Nolan has. Nolan just has more films which is why his resume is more prestigious. Johnson's Looper was very critically loved.
Nolan has done 12 films if you count the documentary Quay. Six of which are big budget blockbusters. Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Inception, The Dark Knight Rises, Interstellar, and Dunkirk. Rian Johnson has done 4 films one of which is a big budget blockbuster. I do not see how you can compare them it is literally apples and oranges.
Rian Johnson has not had the chance to build the resume Nolan has. So I still am not understanding. New talent can be discovered you know. That is like comparing a rookie NBA player to Michael Jordan's full career accomplishments. Michael Jordan played 15 years, where as a rookie has only played one. See the difference?
[quote]Critically and financially the man has never made a bad movie so no it's not an unreasonable idea. Nolan could save this franchise, he saved Batman afterall.[/quote]
Critically and financially Rian Johnson has never made a bad movie either. So what is your point?