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funny you should say that, I thought omg not another bashing on what modern man believes to be superstition again.
I agree about this whole thing being doing of the cult but I think either a new character will be introduced or a character we thought to be a normal person turns out to be a super human.
wtf did I just read.
had not looked at it this way and I got to agree, this would've made a great game.
as far as I remember it is never mentioned that they were going to be picked up at the extraction point. maybe it just meant a chopper ready to fly in an abandoned airport. but then again, this film while very enjoyable, is full of plot holes. so..
not denying that a man can be a more horrifying monster but still, that idea belongs to another genre. it doesn't have to be this or that. both concepts deserve to be explored separately.
It's like saying I wish Romanticism was not so sentimental or cars had two wheels instead of four. you just don't like the whole genre! your criticism targets the very essence that makes the genre. you should not watch a sci-fi/ horror if you think the monster was unnecessary!
agreed, the slow mos felt out of place to me as well. one would expect them to have realized by now that slow motion action scenes are no longer impressive.
you are right, my bad!
isn't Lene Hefner the hooker in blue dress that get's killed earlier in the film?
considering how egotistic Von Trier is, I wouldn't be surprised if your interpretation was true.
I was under this impression that he didn't report everything back to the base/ mothership. or maybe the killings he had done to save his life or keep the real mission hidden were part of the plan.
totally agreed. at some point during the movie, one doesn't care about the budget anymore as the atmosphere totally makes up for that imo.
what do you think the importance of the very last shot of the film is?
I personally believe the film sabotaged itself by leaving the murder investigations too vague. there is a fine line where you leave things vague enough to keep your audience guessing but the director never reached that line in fear of giving out too much information.
what would you have changed/added for a better 80's atmosphere? just curious.
plus, in my opinion none of the biblical references are the key to decipher the film as the whole film is about how narratives can be misleading. i.e. the biblical references are meant to be misleading. the only good forces from the film are shamans.(the japanese before his death and the hired shaman.) shamans do not belong in any man made doctrine, shamanism is about using the forces of nature itself to heal and grow.
thanks for this. your no 16 was the only remaining challenge I had to to prove my theory of the girl in white being evil.
now, I saw on the reddit page that in the end you kind of were convinced your theory was wrong. I read the counter argument against your theory and I am baffled as to what you found so convincing in them as the whole argument is based on everything but what we actually saw in the film.
there is absolutely no way the girl in white was protector for various reasons;
- she lies about the jong goo's sin. (even after his first encounter with the Japanse, on their way back, it was the other cop who was blabbering about the Japansese being the criminal. jong goo was still doubtful. he then went to her daughter to ask whether she knew and met the Japanese. the daughter was already showing severe symptoms of possession)
-she kept the Jong goo waiting by feeding him vague nonsense so that his girl kills the rest of the family.
-she had Hyo-jin's hair slide indicating the girl was with her when jong goo was looking for her in his house earlier in the movie. she had various objects from various possessed folks from the city now dead.
-at the stone throwing scene she also lies about having seen the Japanese crimes with her own eyes.
-she also lies about the dream about the Japanese. if it was no dream, how did Jong goo end up in his bed after getting caught by the Japanese? this applies to the first dude who fell from the hills and saw him eating a deer(?) too. he was caught too but there was no sign of it. my theory is that none of the images we see from the flesh eating version of the Jap are real.
the girl in white was the one who threw the body of Japanese in front of a moving car. this is not what a good spirit would have done; this could easily kill everyone in the moving car by either the impact itself or car losing control, etc. plus that she certainly knew the Japanese would turn into evil if/when he died. she wanted this to happen.