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bingo.
the problem with the world today is nobody thinks without a pre-bias of some sort. (i'm referring to nolan and the op)
a few more thoughts...
imo what is missing is character. something or someone we care about watching.
moreover, you could just simplify it and say what they are missing today are "the basics"
good fundamentals. char, story, plot, structure, etc.
why are the basics missing? answer: because thet ones making the films (today) aren't putting in the work. [b]it's as simple as that.[/b]
the fast food mentality and entitlement mindset generation has finally caught up with us.
their standards are so low that they actually think, they TRULY BELIEVE, that the junk they make today is good content.
like the guy said in the youtube, 'artforms have a lifespan to them. this is normal. and movies as an artform have reached the end of their lifespan.'
he really is right. i don't LIKE saying it because i don't want it to be true, but HE is RIGHT. think about it. the era of any artform's era ended in charicature, bastardization, and low quality, and extreme commercialization.
in art history, this 66 is one sign an era has ended or is on its last leg.
i'd say this is where we're at with films. and it's sad, like i said. makes me sad.
that's why i rewatch old films. [i](by old i mean pre-2005 mostly. there are decent ones made after 2005, some really great ones, but it's sporadic)[/i]
""I do feel the girl's side was a bit unrealistic as 99% of the girls out there wouldn't do this, especially ones that look like Sarah. Now-a-days if a guy would to do this, they would be considered creepy or a stalker, which kind of sucks. ""
agreed.
for me it was exactly around 2005, Sin City and (more especially) Into The Blue.
IMO she looked her best of all time in into the blue. pure heaven.
i think the first film was truly inspired. yeah he suffered from 'unforced errors' early on and got black balled but for me still i thought there'd be more activity here, since he has a considerable following. that's all i was saying.
but for me, yeah i am a huge fan. and he has changed a lot, total overhaul.
i thought the sequel was well below the quality of the first film, and haven't seen any of his other stuff.
for me troy reminds me of the great vibe indie had in the 90s on into the early 2000s. i enjoyed that era so much, and hated to see it all fizzle away.
his name/story is a sort of time capsule for me, bringing back fond memories of better days for the film industry. plus, i consider the first saints movie to be a virtuoso effort;
--the quality stands on its own, proof is in the pudding
--uncanny how everything lined up to make it so good
--shocking that it was from a complete first timer
--incredible how it received so little attention, ironically due to his own doing
i noticed that too yesterday when i went to his imdb
been YEARS since i peeked at his page
feels like several lifetimes ago when saints was trending and troy was making the sequel. i only camt to this board yesterday because saints was on HBO yesterday and i caught the ending and it lured me right in, so that got me windering what troy is up to.
times sure have changed. titles can sit on a director's page for ten years. i miss the old days when movies ruled the landscape.
yeah it did. but that was 25 years ago and he long since turned that around.
but even with the doc blemish he still always had a massive following and that's why it surpried me no posts here.
i think he is an incredible talent and wish he had done more, but the fallout with harvey prevented that.
also, as much as i admire the guy and support him, the messiness with the doc etc is hella entertaining stuff. it actually adds to the whole vibe, overall; ie the irony of a prodigy this supremely talented being colored by a dark side with all the accompanying drama (harvey etc)
his whole journey fascinates me.
one last point. troy is completely different now. if you catch his interviews and youtubes he comes off kind and considerate. he truly learned from his past and made amends.
good point. i suspect it was netflix doing this.
the production values seem a bit ham-fisted on recent years, almost as if they seem to think they have enough size and momentum to get away with skipping the basics. imo they think they 'have the market cornered' and that they are 'too big to fail'
...but they're wrong.
eh, i'm fucking done with netflix anyway. it's not AT ALL like it was when i first became a sub 20 yrs ago. back then it was a way to see movies, valid movies, made by all studios but now it's 90% their own (cheap; case inpoint this very thread) proprietary content most of which is episodic instead of feature films.
sad it turned out this way.
they will do fine though because all the NPCs around the world have their subscription on autopay, so essentially netflix can get away with anything. ie making crap movies lol
mother fucking brake!!!!
mother fucking brake!!!!!!!!!!
mother fucking BRAKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I liked it too. It kept me guessing which is what IMO makes something an entertaining watch.
Also I liked the Florida motif. Incidently I've been on a fla kick lately.
Mainly though it was good characterization and reeled me in. I felt the danger was real. Also I like content having to do with the 70s 80s fla drug trade. Ie cocaine cowboys, scarface etc.
Well, i literally watched to the end, in one night. Been a while since i binged, and truly didnt plan it.
Thought I'd stop it but just kept on watching.
Harlan is slipping imho. The story seemed forced.
It is obvious harlan is more concerned with dei and wokeness than just making a good story. Sorry but it comes off as decadence. Too preoccupied with kinkiness lol.
When an agenda overrules storytelling, the end result suffers. Sorry but thats the truth.
Harlan was awesome and one of my faves. But he is slipping, selling out.
Its sad.
Mmfb
It snowed!!!
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read my comments above. I am asking if it's possible the story played out that way anyway, and if not what proof do we have to confirm it didn't.
see above comments...
Well said. Great input.
I love this story. Truly virtuoso.
I like mind benders like this one, or Kyle being his own father in Termimator, and a few others. I find irony a strong story element.
I'm wondering....
For argument's sake, is it 'possible' all that could have happened exactly the way he told it? Or is there a way we can COMFIRM certain things didnt occur. This is what I am wondering.
All we know is the names were accurate, and they are dead at the dock. But can we definitively prove the narrative is invented?
For me this is the question.
Right. Yes, that is how I see it. He built retroactive red herrings onto the hard facts he knew the cops already had.
Its a briliant piece of storytelling. I remember when it came out in 95 i was at a mob owned pizza joint (in GA) and everyone in there was talking about it, crazy about this film. Haha