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All that means is that he's now accustomed to waking up with a concussion with somebody next to him that he should recognize.
No plot hole.
I do appreciate the level of mental gymnastics it's taking though 🤣
And Marty NEVER says she looks like his mom.
He even can't finish the sentence because he has no idea who that is.
Agree. And the actress is playing a different character, that's all that means.
Just as it's not a plot hole that Jennifer looks completely different in part 2.
Unless they say it has anything to do with Lorraines family, which they don't, it's not a plot hole
Also, the Delorean isn't being accelerated under its own power while being pushed. You don't know the science behind it. Doc does, but you don't.
No plot hole. Doesn't poke any holes in the plot.
But you keep at it, you little go getter👍
Lol really reaching there.
Nobody has ever considered these plot holes before except you. Know why? Because they're not. You haven't found some secret that nobody has ever thought of. You give yourself too much credit.
It's actually amusing
Nope. Not a plot hole. Lol sorry you don't understand the word.
The time machine doesn't go anywhere until 88, which is what the plot says. It doesn't say anything about when the lights start. For all you know it has to do with Mr Fusion being installed in 2015. Sorry. You lose.
And nope, the actress has nothing to do with anything. For example in Indiana Jones, the big plane guy Indy fights in Raiders is the same actor who Indy fights on the rock conveyor in Temple. That doesn't mean they are related. They never once said that is part of the Bains bloodline. They always maintained it was McFlys bloodline. There are tons of people who look the same, on earth, in your country, even in the town you live in, let alone a century apart. Sorry, you lose again.
1. Even Einsteins first trip, the Delorean lights up and shows signs of "about to travel" well before it actually does. Even if not, that's not a "plot hole" at all. It would just be continuity at worst (which it's not)
2. All this means is that the Mcfly men down the bloodline were attracted to similar type of women. Nothing more. Not a plot hole.
You must have missed the part where they had to disable the shield.... by flying to the mother ship with their own little space ship. And then coordinate the offensive. And then deduce the weak spot from there.
Simple, they put him on the boat with Dr Sheehan and just had the boat come dock. At the end, we can see his delusions seemed have a "reset" period where he likely wouldn't question how or why he got on a boat.
The gun was fake. They show its just a toy at the end. His delusions just convinced him it was real.
Yeah and I also doubt he walks around knowing which high schools TV reporters went to 😆
Of course he has a point. Any regular citizen has the right to defend themselves and their homes.
The intruders didn't get the hint with the initial deterrents. Instead the intruders vowed harm to the kid. I would absolutely find enjoyment in the pain of intruders who mean to cause me harm. That's their fault, not mine.
He clearly doesn't have the best idea of his possible consequences in any of this in getting involved with the cops.
Also, he thinks he lured them to the Murphys place and pretended to be Murphy. Perhaps he believed this will lend some credibility to the call when the cops find them there
I'm not literally saying he came back to let the trauma play out. I'm saying through the fault of bad and inconsistent writing that thinks it's more clever than it really is, that is the in-universe result.
Your only defense of the movie is a vauge, unspecified idea that I'm "assuming" stuff. I'm only going off of exactly what we see and what the movie is telling us.
Fact: The movie is telling us the blackouts are Old Evan.
Fact: The basement blackout starts when meeting Stoltz outside and ends in the middle of being naked in front of his camera.
Therefore: Either Old Evan came back and his direct actions during this specific time led to Young Evan and Kaylie being in that position and thus the orginial trauma (has to be orginal trauma, otherwise what is he documenting on his playdate to come back to)
OR
The movies internal logic is egregiously flawed.
Which it ultimately is.
Yeah you're not wrong about that
The worst one I saw upon first watch back in 2004 was when he scars himself to prove to his prison buddy. According to the films own logic, the scars wouldn't have magically appeared to him.
That's stretching and I would have to refute this. The kiddie porn scene is the most egregious example of what I'm saying.
In our version Old Evan comes back and tells off discount Marty Mcfly. He throws Tommy under the bus and we see Tommy enraged, like we see the first time. The first time we witness, Young Evan comes to and everyone's just kind of sitting there as the trauma happens
If what you're saying is true, there is really nothing you can say that Old Evan was doing during this time in any sort of attempt. Tommy is still on the stairs. Kaylie is still standing there getting scarred for life. Daddy is still drunkenly filming.
Nothing happened and Old Evan did nothing to intervene. Old Evans time would've been talking to friendly Dad outside all the way up to standing naked in the basement.
Nah. How is Tyler sympathetic? And for some reason, you equate charisma with not being a bad guy? That's like the #1 answer on a family feud board on cult leader tropes lol.
You can make all sorts of justifications on why you don't think Tyler is the villian on a superficial level or why you think the movie doesn't make him one. You're completely open to that interpretation/opinion. But villians don't need to check off some list of mustache twirling tropes and cliches in your head in order to make them villians.
Fact still remains that he is the villain. The movie is not taking his stance. That's the entire point of the movie. I'm sorry you're trying so hard to rationalize the opposite n order to insist that people are somehow going to answer your OP in earnest because for some reason they think Tyler is right. Movie does a great job. Me and a few million movie-watchers aren't wrong. Your opinion on that is irrelevant.
Again, by the end of the movie, everyone understands he's wrong. Your OP is preaching to the choir.
But why? Before he recruits her, all he had to do was leave her to her loading dock job and he could've proceeded however he wanted
In the decades since this movie has been out, people have, on a whole, realized that Tyler's worldview isn't what is being preached. Tyler preached it, but not the film, or the films message.
There have been countless articles breaking this down. For years. It's old news.
Really, nobody is beating the Tyler drum at face value except for a couple of outlier mouth breathers who, again, completely missed the point. But you'll have that with any movie.
So even if granted that.... who are you asking your post to?
We, the audience, understand all of that. The movie tells us that.
The ending literally has our guy conquering this worldview from his life.