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Lamb (2021) - Keys to understand the Movie (Spoilers!)


Maria = Mother Mary
Ingvar = Joseph ("Ingvar" means warlike God/Ing/Ingvi/Yngvi)
PΓ©tur = Peter/Saint Peter (goes fishing πŸŸβ€‹ with Ada, so cute!)
Ada β™₯ = Agnus Dei, Lamb of God, Jesus
Ram Man = Nordic God Heimdall (Julebuk, Christmas Ram), Ada's father

Ada's birth father (Ram Man, God) wasn't happy how his gift to humanity was handled.
So he brought Ada/Jesus back 'home'.

And yes, I love this movie! πŸ’žβ€‹

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What do you think will happen to Ada after her father takes her away?
Will she adapt to wilderness?

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Good questions for a sequel. ☺
With the funny observing cat, please. β€‹πŸ±β€‹

Well, Ada may help us humans to understand that we're part of nature.
Neither leaders nor nature's opponents.


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wait, so Heimdall is Jesus' father? I'm not quite following this interp.

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Heimdall (Ram Man) is Ada's father.
Ada is the 'Lamb of God'.

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Man you took it too far than needed. You need to come out of church for a while.

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I don't think this really makes sense... How is Ada Jesus... And why is her father God??? How was it a gift? Ada's mum kept calling for her... until Maria shot her and I don't really see how your points even explain anything... I don't think religion has anything to do with this movie...

This is more about a couple in grief... that think this "special" child belongs to them... because it makes them happy... but their decision to keep Ada has consequences...

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This Icelandic film is a mix of Nordic mythology and Jewish/Christian religion.
Ancient mythologies (belief in elves and goblins) and the Christian religion still coexist peacefully in Iceland today.

Ada's mother is an ewe (shot by Maria) and her father is the Ram Man, god Heimdall.
That's why Ada has human traits like her father, who is only hinted at the beginning.
The Ram Man (god Heimdall) shoots Ada's adoptive father Ingvar in the final scene.
Heimdall isn't pleased at all about Maria's and Ingvar's behaviour.
He rather brings Ada back 'home'.

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I am from Denmark so I know all about Nordic mythology... And are you really saying the Icelandic people still believe in elves and goblins?

This is more a dark Nordic fairytale than it has anything to do with Christ and Christianity... And you keep mentioning Heimdall as he was the main god in Nordic Mythology... If you wanted to represent the Ram man as important god you would have linked him with Odin or Thor not Heimdall...

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"Icelandic people still believe in elves and goblins?"
Yes, many of them do.

And I didn't say or try to convey that Heimdall was a "main god".
This movie tells a story of its own.
It's not an educational film about Nordic Gods before Christianity.
Odin and Thor are (ab-)used enough in the Marvel Universe.

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No they don't believe in elves and goblins... sure you can find one or two crazy people in any country... but to claim many of them do... is ludicrous... How many Icelandic people do you know?

Yes... this movie tells a story of its own... that was exactly what I wrote... A dark Nordic fairytale... that has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity... or Heimdall for that matter...

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Just posted more info about the Nordic God Heimdall (Ram).
And about the Icelandic belief in elves and goblins you can read for yourself.
Enough to find in the WWW.

Hav en god aften! πŸ‘‹β€‹πŸ‘‹β€‹πŸ‘‹β€‹

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That is all great... but what in this story make you say it is Heimdall other than it is a Ram... nothing happens that connects this being to Heimdall... Unless you think anytime a ram appears in a movie it is Heimdall? If you find an interview with the writer or director of the movie saying the Ram Man represents Heimdall... then sure... but posting a link to a wiki page about Heimdall does not convince me... And I honestly do not wanna go search the web about Icelandic people's belief in elves and goblins... I know and have met many people from Iceland and not one of them have claimed to believe in elves and goblins...

Og du mΓ₯ ogsΓ₯ have en fremragende aften:-)

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Apparently you didn't watch the movie.
It wasn't just a ram, it's a RAM MAN.
https://cdn4.whatculture.com/images/2021/12/a318a66e07f3d64d-600x338.jpg

It wasn't just a "link to a wiki page", it was/is something to read.

You got your knowledge about Nordic Mythology only through dubious Odin and Thor movies and webcam sessions with random people claiming to be Icelandic didn't help either.
The Elves of Iceland (National Geographic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Y-mB2NgoU
These 2 minutes won't overstrain even you. ☺

Btw. you aren't from Denmark...a little detail exposed you. πŸ­β€‹

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I am from Denmark and I would gladly respond in danish if you prefer?

You seem so happy with you own interpretation of this movie... but the problem is... nobody has so far agreed with your take... because if lacks any substance if you watch the movie... Why would Heimdall bring Jesus home... Just that sentence says it all...

And now you have found a youtube clip with some Icelandic people talking about elves... Then all people from Iceland must believe in elves...

Again... the story is a dark fairytale and has nothing to do with christ or Heimdall

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You can repeat your unfounded Lala as often as you want.
You didn't watch the movie and even if, you wouldn't understand it.
And that "youtube clip" was National Geographic, you honk. πŸ­β€‹

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HAHAHAHA... my god you are a joke... so because National Geographic interviews soemone who believe in elves... suddenly all people from Iceland believe in elves...

The issue is you didn't understand the movie and now you are pissed because I didn't agree with your take... but you have provided no real proof from the movie that back up your points...

And also accusing me of not seeing the movie and not being from Denmark???

Do you have a hard time communicating with other people?

I just saw a couple of your other threads on this site and it is basically you talking to yourself... wonder why...

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OldG (604) 13 minutes ago
HAHAHAHA... my god you are a joke... so because National Geographic interviews soemone who believe in elves... suddenly all people from Iceland believe in elves...
The issue is you didn't understand the movie and now you are pissed because I didn't agree with your take... but you have provided no real proof from the movie that back up your points...
And also accusing me of not seeing the movie and not being from Denmark???
Do you have a hard time communicating with other people?
I just saw a couple of your other threads on this site and it is basically you talking to yourself... wonder why...

You just proved my points, dear batfleck aka bad-spot. 🐭
As I've told you some weeks ago, every now and then you should think before you hit the send button. ☺

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P.S. πŸβ€‹

"Heimdall has a particular association with male sheep, rams. A form of the deity's name, Heimdali, occurs twice as a name for 'ram' in SkΓ‘ldskaparmΓ‘l, as does Heimdall's name HallinskΓ­Γ°i. Heimdall's unusual physical description has also been seen by various scholars as fitting this association: As mentioned above, Heimdall is described as gold-toothed (by way of his name Gullintanni), as having the ability to hear grass grow and the growth of wool on sheep, and as owning a sword called 'head' (rams have horns on their heads). This may mean that Heimdall was associated with the ram perhaps as a sacred and/or sacrificial animal or that the ancient Scandinavians may have conceived of him as having been a ram in appearance."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimdall#Scholarly_reception

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Yes. It's a film about grief.

I wouldn't, however, say that religion has nothing to do with it at all. I think that it's there, but not quite in the way the OP imagines -- which is a reductive and overly literal interpretation that takes a few leaps to make the theory work.

Lamb isn't a direct religious allegory by any stretch of the imagination. It just plays around with that iconography to provide a mythical dimension.

SjΓ³n, the co-writer, does this kind of thing quite a bit in his fiction. (He also co-wrote The Northman, another film that plays with mythological themes.) But he's primarily a poet. He uses this stuff as building blocks from the shared pool of story-telling. He's a literary man, not a literalist.

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Disagreed.
It's a movie how we deal with our grief.
And how we handle the people around us and our environment.

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Me:

It's a film about grief.


You:

Disagreed. It's a movie [about] how we deal with our grief


You may need to provide some clarity over what you imagine yourself to be disagreeing with.

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You may read my first reply to you again.

That movie is NOT about grief.
It's about how we deal with our grief.
How we handle or treat people.
And how we handle or treat our environment.

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Oh, I see: that's called drawing a distinction without a difference. I'm not interested in arguing semantics or the number of angels on a pinhead with you. So we'll leave it there.

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You tried to make it about "semantics" with your first reply to me.

This movie isn't solely about grief (as you stated).
It's much more...that's what I said.

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Give it up... he/she is a lost cause... I actually would like to have a normal discussion about this movie but I guess TimeTunnel isn't interested in that..

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Give it up


Yeah. No worries. I have. Life's too short.

I probably wouldn't have replied in the first place if I'd read them 'Amerisplaining'* Scandinavian culture to you, a Scandie.

But I'm glad they liked the film.

* - I assume.

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Interesting take but I do think Petur would be Loki, Norse god of mischief. A saint wouldn't hit on his brother's wife, would he? And certainly he would not even consider killing the lamb.

I caught this movie last night and it's a lot to take in. lol... odd film but I kinda liked it. Too bad the ending is so underwhelming. But it leaves the door wide open for a sequel or maybe a prequel. I want to see more of the Ram Man. What does he do with Ada? That's a scary thought actually. Not sure I want to know... haha..

I'll give Lamb a 6.8 out of 10. A better ending would have put it somewhere in the 7.5/10 range.

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