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By legal definition, this is child pornography... why is that so hard to accept?


Whether the focal point of the visual depiction is on the child's genitalia or pubic area.
Whether the setting of the visual depiction is sexually suggestive, i.e., in a place or pose generally associated with sexual activity.
Whether the child is depicted in an unnatural pose, or in inappropriate attire, considering the age of the child.
Whether the child is fully or partially clothed, or nude.
Whether the visual depiction suggests sexual coyness or a willingness to engage in sexual activity.
Whether the visual depiction is intended or designed to elicit a sexual response in the viewer.

Wikipedia: DOST Test

There are many such scenes in the trailer alone that violates this. That they're using actual children instead of legal age actors who look like children (what is often done in American movies to prevent child pornography laws from shutting them down) is what dooms this. By legal definition, it is child porn.

Trying to defend it as not being child porn because of the artistic image is what we did for ages for other non-nude child porn and even nude child porn... the argument being that it was okay to have children model in sexual poses as long as no one actually penetrated them. Thankfully we recognized that these acts actually were damaging to the child and made it illegal.

If this film were produced in America, the director would be in prison... our laws are clear, this is child porn.

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you obviously haven't read the whole article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dost_test

1. the DOST test is a guideline, not a law.
2. it's not the "definition of child porn", but a set of criteria to determine "whether a visual depiction of a minor constitutes a lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area", which subsequently can be used to further figure out if media is child porn or not. that means, even media that doesn't meet these criteria can under circumstances be child porn and vice-versa.
3. the only DOST criteria 'cuties' meets are no. 3 and 4 (unnatural poses / partially clothed).
4. just for the record: if cuties was obvious child porn, you know you'd be guilty of complicity, if you haven't reported the film to the authorities right away? (or have you?)

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Pornography is designed to tittilate. This is not, therefore it's not child pornography.

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Pornography is designed to tittilate.


We honestly don't know what the writer's/director's intentions were, and it's my opinion that it doesn't matter anyway.

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everyone who's seen the film knows what the writer's/director's intentions were, the message couldn't be clearer.
and even if you haven't seen the film, you can easily look it up on interviews with the writer/director, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8dsjAoazdY

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I haven't seen the film and don't intend to. The still pictures I've seen are enough to convince me it would do nothing but enrage me. I also would rather not see an interview, so to be honest I didn't follow the link.

I know the *official* line was to call attention to child exploitation, but I doubt if the writer/producer/director would admit they loved sitting through hundreds of casting calls of children twerking, or enjoyed directing these children how to do so on film.

They could have made a film about sexual exploitation of children without actually sexually exploiting children to make their point..


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if you're not going to watch the film and you're not going to listen to the director's interviews, then you're simply not in a position to comment with any kind of depth of knowledge.

you simply don't know what you're talking about.

& there's no indication that i'm aware of that any of the kids were exploited. by all accounts, the director went to all appropriate lengths to make sure they were comfortable with what they were asked to do.

if you watch the film, you'll find that it's exactly what the director intended it to be: an anti child sexualization and anti exploitation film.

it was perfectly clear to me that the film's position is that the girl was being corrupted, robbed of her innocence, and was firmly against those things, and that lines up with what the director has said in interviews.

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This might be eroticism, but if you think this is pornography, you need to loosen up your bible belt and take a look at what you have down there.

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Dude, the pedos are on DefCon 5 right now. It's sickening how many are coming out of the woodwork to defend their new source of material for the spankbank.

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Look at how the pedophiles refuse to accept that the movie is child pornography... they keep redefining pornography so they can get around the issue!

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