The Avengers
didn't give a damn about Vision's body and don't give a damn about Wanda?
shareThis, for me, is the biggest problem w/the show. No way would Stark Industries/Pepper/Cap/Bruce just leave Vision's body to be dissected like that. How it comes to be the "property" of some random gov't agency is a complete handwave. So: the fact that there's no explanation is a huge issue. Ah, well. . .wait and see time.
sharetbh vision doesn't belong to them either since ultron created vision, if anything its strange wakanda let them have it but then again they had also lost their king so there was no one in charge but vision does not belong to stark.
shareUltron, Helen Cho, Tony Stark and Bruce Banner created Vision. Ultron and Cho provided the body; Tony and Bruce the A.I. (Mind, spirit. . .however you want to put it.) Any or all would have a legit claim to Vision's remains. The US gov't Definitely *DOESN'T* have a claim to his remains.
Given what we've learned about these characters over the last 23 films, there's simply no way Tony/Bruce/Cap would give up Vision's body to the gov't, to let it be dissected. This is simply a miss on the part of the writers. No story is perfect; this is an omission/flaw in this particular one.
Your new at comic book movies, aren't you?
shareIn what way was that a problem? In the aftermath of Thanos' victory, the Avengers no doubt brought the Vision's remains back the U.S. with them, and began focusing on the problem at hand. That S.H.I.E.L.D. or S.W.O.R.D. or whatever other government agency would take custody of the body seems so obvious that it doesn't deserve more mention than it was given. It may have been explained to the remaining Avengers that the body was to be stored somewhere for safe-keeping. Who knows? Who cares? Wanda was the one most likely to care, and she vanished after Thanos' snap.
share"In what way was that a problem? "
See above.
"It may have been explained to the remaining Avengers that the body was to be stored somewhere for safe-keeping."
But that's not what happened. They started dissecting him; clearly with a view towards maximizing the tech possibilities for weaponry.
"Who knows? Who cares?"
From the viewer's perspective, anyone who cares about consistency in storytelling. From the characters' perspective, as stated above; multiple Avengers would most definitely care. If you don't think Tony would make a huge fuss about it, and Cap an even huger one, you haven't been paying attention to the dozens of previous films. It's simply out of character, for multiple reasons. For these two characters, at the very Least.
One defense, and this is a rationalization, I admit:
It's been three weeks since "Endgame." But it's been five years (and three weeks) since Vision was left for dead in Wakanda.
Maybe Stark did take possession of the body, just as Vision's living will provided (a living will public enough to be known to Jimmy, an FBI agent in charge of witness protection)..
But Stark's dead, Rogers is old, Thor's gone, Nat's dead and Barton's retired. In all the chaos, how hard would it have been for SWORD to secure Vision's body and start working on it? Who's left to stop them? Maybe there was even a resolution under the Sokovia Accords authorizing them to do so.
"But Stark's dead, Rogers is old, Thor's gone, Nat's dead and Barton's retired. In all the chaos, how hard would it have been for SWORD to secure Vision's body and start working on it? Who's left to stop them? "
You, at least, are working on a reasonable hypothesis as to how the narrative arrived at this point. As you say, it requires some rationalization. . .but, at least you're Trying. The showrunners didn't; this is what the OP is pointing out. Accurately.
However: The point remains. It's problematic to assume that the Avengers. . .even given the way you've explained their circumstances. . .would allow Vision's body to be used/abused the way it was. Wanda knew, so it would be absurd to posit that everyone else didn't as well. This interconnected universe has a shared narrative, that clearly shows the Avengers in contact, doing work, functioning as a collective, with viable communication both on and off planet.
This is a miss, on the part of the showrunners.
I don't buy it. It makes total sense that Vision would end up where he did. He was destroyed by Thanos, and half the universe died, including Wanda. He was brought back to the U.S. and the Avengers fell apart. Tony Stark was lost in space. Captain America was despondent. They probably had Vision's body somewhere, but it was clearly not a priority to them. If a trusted government agent came and offered to keep the body, which is a dangerous, valuable, weapon, somewhere safe, they'd have gone along with it. Why wouldn't they?
Assume they didn't. Perhaps the body stayed safe with them until Endgame. In the aftermath of that, who is left? Stark and Natasha are now dead, Captain America is 100+ years old and retired. And where is the body? Was it at the Avengers compound? If so, it's buried under rubble, and maybe it was dug out by the government agency that now has it.
The point is, you're asking a meaningless question, and one that doesn't need to be answered for the narrative to make sense.
See above; I've explained how the Avengers actually did NOT "fall apart." As far as "trusted gov't agencies," the way the show describes their treatment of Vision was simply Not something the remaining members would've stood for. Wanda knew where he was, so it's clear it was not some clandestine secret. "Why wouldn't they?" Let me ask you an honest question: if this was one of Your people, would You go along w/it???
It's a valid question, FAR from "meaningless," and simply ignored by this storyline. The OP is completely correct.
It's a valid question, but it's also valid that Sword has power to convince the avengers to just give them the body.
What's the issue?
Would they just keep the hero at the avengers compound forever? That's what you are suggesting?
Why wouldn't they give the body back to the government? The government probably told them "this will be stored with us, thanks". And Falcon and friends replied "ok, cool, take good care of our robot".
"It's a valid question, but it's also valid that Sword has power to convince the avengers to just give them the body."
? Of course it is. That's not in dispute. . .this storyline is *about* SWORD taking a heavy-handed, possibly illegal position.
"What's the issue?"
The issue is the *reaction* of the Avengers to this. Given that what's shown runs counter to what we've learned about these characters, it's a valid narrative concern.
"Would they just keep the hero at the avengers compound forever? That's what you are suggesting?"
I'm suggesting nothing. . .but to speak to your "what if," again: the show gives one concrete example. Wanda wants his body back, so she can bury him. With love & respect.
"Why wouldn't they give the body back to the government? The government probably told them "this will be stored with us, thanks". And Falcon and friends replied "ok, cool, take good care of our robot"."
First: they wouldn't be giving him "back." The gov't didn't "own" him in the first place. Second: He's not "their robot." Vision is clearly a sentient being. Third: I'll repeat yet again: Trust in a heavy-handed gov't agency is simply NOT what these characters would do. (As it turns out, for Very Good Reason.)
Nah. This is a miss, in the story.
How many times have the "Sokovian accords" been mentioned in the MCU movies and in this series?
Several times.
It means that the Sokovian accords have several guidelines and laws that they expect superhero and special "weapons" to adhere to.
Vision, being a vibranium robot with weapon potential, is somehwere in there.
The Avengers probably took him to their compound, checked what could they do. They couldn't do anything to bring the sentient being back, so they ended up with vibranium in their hands, and handed it over to the government.
Nothing special about this, nothing scandalous.
Wanda is the only one who can't let go, because she never looked at him like a robot/vibranium weapon.
That would only be a problem if they dissected him against Wanda's wishes. Hayward gave her the chance to reconnect with him in some way, which she tried, and realized she couldn't.
The Avengers would've only needed to come in once they realized Hayward had weaponized Vision, but only his minions knew about it.