disney's new trend
fat as fuck women. what is up with the trunks in wanda vision and now loki too? it's like being fat ass is now a demographic.
shareAbout 40% of US adults are considered to be obese, and 5% are morbidly obese.
Yes, fatties ARE a demographic, a big one.
And we need to make sure all the fat people feel good about their unhealthy lifestyles, that is what it is all about.
Everyone should fell good about themselves, that is the real trend. That way none is offended. Except maybe good looking and healthy people, but they are going to feel good about themselves anyway.
What, you think you can bully or shame people into being thinner??? That's not how it works! Demand that other people change with meanness in your heart, and what happens? People hate you and defy you, or worse, they hate themselves and turn to something that gives them comfort. Human beings do NOT, EVER, react to bullying by trying to become what the bully wants them to be, especially if that involves sacrifices such as giving up favorite foods.
No, if people are going to make major life changes, they have to be in a positive mindset first - have enough self-confidence and self-valuation to believe they can change their lives, and enough confidence in themselves and their future to believe that change worth the trouble.
What, you think you can bully or shame people into being thinner???
No, that is not I am talking about, but giving fat people encouraging messages is not that great either. share
Telling fat people to eat more is a bad idea, but telling them that they deserve hectoring and abuse is worse. Again, if you want people to change their behavior, you have to encourage feelings of self-worth and pride, not shame and humiliation. I hope that's the effect the Fat Acceptance thing is having, but of course you never know how anything will affect anyone.
share> What, you think you can bully or shame people into being thinner.
I think itβs beneficial for social stigmas to attend to destructive behaviors to the extent they are serious and the result of personal choice(s). The body positivity movement is an example of a well-intentioned effort that contributes to bad outcomes for society and, on net, overweight individuals themselves. I donβt have any problem with casting overweight people in entertainment, however.
The first thing you aren't grasping Bout the body positivity movement is that no, the people who embrace it wouldnt be thinner if the movement didn't exist. No, they'd still be fat, and the only difference is that the fat people wouldn't hate themselves as much as you wish.
Again, shaming doesn't make people any thinner or produce any other desired behavioral changes, it just makes people unhappy or angry.
I have no wish for people to hate themselves and appreciate that overweight people suffer mental anguish. And I think we should be compassionate towards the obese and condemn any who torment them. But weβll only see an increase in obesity and related disability and mortality (and increased healthcare costs) if people are encouraged to think being overweight is normal and attractive.
Thereβs a middle ground between shaming and celebrating obesity. The same applies to other undesirable health behaviors like drug abuse, smoking, driving without a seatbelt, etc. for which we go so far as to have laws proscribing them.
FWIW, I struggle to maintain a healthy weight myself and often fail. I would say my two largest motivations to eat more healthily and exercise are the desire to be healthy and maintain or improve my appearance. In the absence of the latter, I expect Iβd be heavier and sicker.
People don't gain weight because of the body positivity movement, absolutely nobody intends to gain weight (except a few fetishists)! No, people gain weight because of the same reasons they've always gained weight, stress and working long hours and physical issues and liking food more than liking fashion, and if people are heavier today it's IMHO because of processed food.
Nobody in the body positivity movement says that people shoudln't keep their weight down or that there's anything with losing weight if that's your choice, just that nobody who is hefty should hate themselves or live in shame, which has been the reality for a lot of people for a very long time. And dont' think that the societal and sexual pressure to be slim has gone away, the acceptance movement is just a little bit of pushback against an overwhelming trend. But one that makes some people oddly uncomfortable.
Disagree. Just as with casual drug use and having children out of wedlock, increased societal acceptance β or the normalization β of obesity will lead to (still) more of it.
shareThere have always been people who have gotten tired of trying to conform to whatever body type is in fashion, and they've said "Fuck it, fighting nature isn't worth the trouble!". In today's world that usually means people stop trying to be leaner than nature intended them to be, and the main difference that the body positivity movement has made is that it's now less fashionable to be mean to anyone who does that.
Maybe it's a bit like the normalization of having children out of wedlock means it's no longer socially acceptable to be shitty to people, because their parents weren't married.
You are judgmental about judgmentalism.
Nature didnβt intend for people to be obese. Itβs largely changes in diet and lifestyle that have taken hold in recent decades that have caused an explosion in obesity.
I would never mock, ostracize or shame the obese but I wonβt be celebrating obesity or pretending obese people (as a group) are attractive when (in general β my opinion) they are not. [Though they are hardly alone in this. Physical attractiveness is uncommon.] I will always encourage anyone who is overweight who would ask to try to lose weight for their health and/or to improve their career and romantic prospects. Compassion without patronization.
"You are judgmental about judgmentalism"
Why yes, I'm judgmental about assholism! And people who defend their supposed right to be assholes to those they consider beneath them! Because yes, that's how you're coming across, think about that.
Anyway, while I agree that there are many natural body types out there, some people are naturally tall and lean, some people are naturally short and chunky, and are those with unfashionable body types made to spend their entire lives feeling "less than" because their natural body type isn't considered desirable, and have to deal with social pressure from people who think they need to change their natural body type and that's cruel and idiotic. Now nobody's natural body type is "morbidly obese", but people don't get to be morbidly obese because the body positivity movement convinced them to stop yo-yo-dieting. A great many gain a huge amount of weight as children, sometimes as a reaction to abuse (this is real), and of course processed foods stuffed full of obesity-inducing additives... well, the causes of morbid obesity aren't clearly understood, but it's not "body positivity".
But whatever the causes of morbid obesity is, being mean and judgmental to obese people DOES NOT HELP. You can't change them, social pressure from armies of people can't change them. Body positivity probably can't change them either, but if it gives them a little more happiness then all the rest of us can do is back off and let people deal with their own issues in their own way. That's a life lesson there - if you can't help, back off and shut your trap, because if you keep at it you might make things worse.
A lot of the positive changes I've made in my own life were due to a degree of "self hatred". I hated those facets about myself so I changed them. That's how you deal with self hate. Your kumbaya, psycho babble, safe space bullshit does nothing but enable.
shareTo deal with self-hate that way, you have to have self-confidence and a belief that you can successfully change for the better, which is not something you get from being bullied.
"And we need to make sure all the fat people feel good about their unhealthy lifestyles, that is what it is all about."
Why would it be your duty to make them not feel good? What does it matter to you? Why would their health or lifestyle affect your life in any way?
I watch TV, so that matters to me.
I don't like the hypocrisy of commercialization masquerading as sensitiveness.
So just having to see that these people exist is such a burden on you? Is that what you're meaning when you say it matters to you? Just SEEING them? Like, no other factor whatsoever. There's absolutely nothing about it that affects you in anyway whatsoever, other than the fact that you don't want to look at them?
shareI did not expect you to be so stupid, or weird, but I don't judge.
I am just sorry that I have wasted my time on you.
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