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What happened to Star Trek Picard?

posted 4 years ago by John47 (40)
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As a fan of Star Trek: The Next Generation, the Picard series feels like they took a generic sci-fi TV show script that was left in a cupboard and inserted Star Trek characters and references.

Picard while understandably older, lacks command presence, shows little initiative and feels like he is along for the ride.

TNG showed that you don't need to be overly dark, violent along with unnecessary swearing. It was a show anyone could watch and be entertained. The original series is different to TNG sure, but the return of Picard's character is clearly not motivated or influenced by any true Star Trek concepts or vision.

[–] johnmiller (3889) 4 years ago

Well, the dude's 80, or whatever. But, yeah, there is zero reason for the show, except to make the producers more money, since there are going to be half a dozen "Treks" pretty soon.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14379) 4 years ago

Sadly, the people in charge just don't give a damn about the original Star Trek canon or being family-friendly anymore. They think now that they have a bigger budget and that it's on a streaming service, they can do all the things the tv censors prevented when Star Trek was on mainstream tv, forgetting that this was once a family show. It's one of the main determining factors when you see something with the "Star Trek" label, and wonder if it's the actual thing. If the kid's can't watch it, I don't consider it Star Trek. It's more like an expensive, filthy fanfic some horny, angry, liberal teenage boy wrote to go against the values the original Star Trek shows had, just because he can do it.

I can barely consider this particular show canon to Star Trek, considering it contradicts a lot of things the original shows talked about or demonstrated, and there are even YouTube Videos pointing this out. Plus, it took six episodes (out of 10, mind you) for this to get any good. At least Jonathan Frakes improved the scene immensely.

[–] John47 (40) 4 years ago

I suppose I am dreaming here, but with deepfake being so good, maybe some YouTube people could do an unofficial TNG season 8 and give fans a show they deserve.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14379) 4 years ago

There was a channel on YouTube where they made stories about other Starfleet officers living in the 23rd century whose production values were similar to the original series. Dad and I watched a few of them, and they were good :)

[–] Satan2016 (25525) 4 years ago

Star Trek was always violent. Do you think phasers are toy guns?
Tng was dark. Do you think the Borg were happy commies?
Are you people on drugs or just senile? Stop watching DumbCock!

[–] Gd5150 (11746) 4 years ago

It was laughably simpleminded and unsophisticated. Like 99% of other entertainment being made today. Spoonfed plots with some CGI and profanity thrown in for the short attention spans. Oh and of course dystopian overtones. Just needed a comic book super hero.

[–] John47 (40) 4 years ago

And it is the case with a lot of new shows and films, if you get very left wing writers and producers/actors to make them, this is what happens.

[–] dirkdiggler (118) 4 years ago

You realize the irony complaining about the “left wing” when discussing Star Trek? You realize Gene Roddenberry was a virtual atheistic communist right?

[–] John47 (40) 4 years ago

I should have broken it down more, I meant as in woke. Star Trek at the core, was a humanist show. I have never had a problem with that. Picard is simply based on SJW ideas. if they didn't have a brand like Star Trek to leech off, this would have never got made.

[–] dirkdiggler (118) 4 years ago

I see.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

I think the main difference is Roddenberry was craftier at cramming liberal propaganda down the viewers' throats. Picard didn't even try to be subtle about it they just opened a big can of woke pudding, poured it in a pastry bag and tried to jam it up the viewers ass as they squeezed the fuck out of the bag. Didn't even bother to lube up the viewers just assumed the viewers wanted it.

[–] brux (14724) 4 years ago

They have never been able to get the Star Trek vibe right except in a few cases. The TV censors, or whatever they were called, thought Star Trek was too complicated for adults of the era. What Star Trek was, was subversive and threatening to the political power structure, and so it was a threat. So they tried and tried to reproduce the trappings, the characters, all by dangling money at producers and writers, but it is hard to find more than one or two episodes of any other subsequent series, and not much by eye candy and stupid entertainment in the movies. I figured Picard would be pretty much the same, and Discovery was even worse. This is a very politically fearful time and most of our media is propaganda or commercial.