Is Show Canon?
I haven't watched it yet. I was curious to know if it fits in with the official ST:TNG storyline and ending. Or does it completely contradict the original show?
shareI haven't watched it yet. I was curious to know if it fits in with the official ST:TNG storyline and ending. Or does it completely contradict the original show?
sharePicard and his crew are not Starfleet, so not really. Fed ships don't show up until finale. Lots of Romulan back story.
shareIt feels absolutely nothing like TNG at all and contradicts lots from the original show.
shareThis sounds like all Star Trek since the Abrams I-want-Star-Trek-to-be-Star-Wars reboots -- really expensive fan-fiction, and bad fan-fiction at that. Which is a shame.
shareIt really is a shame. The theme music for Picard is pretty good though, repurposed from one of the best TNG episodes "The Inner Light"
shareI'm glad they did that, at least. "The Inner Light" is a wonderful episode, isn't it?
shareYes it's fantastic, I've been rewatching TNG recently and that episode still holds up. Incidentally it was rewatching the episode that made me notice the Picard theme and when I looked on YouTube someone else had noted it too -
https://youtu.be/0Pvu8Z1_-mE
If nothing else in ST:P I like what they did with the music
I read a blog that suggested that Nemesis starts a new divergent timeline. Best to view it thus I think.
shareRead the books! They had a great TNG book series going on until this turd of a show was developed. Picard had a new Enterprise with a mostly new crew, he got married and had a son as well. It was a far better scenario than this.
shareCan you recommend a few titles please? I'm a bit out of the loop with all that stuff but I'm interested in them if you can point me in the right direction.
shareThey are listed here on this wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation_novels#Relaunch_novels
I haven't read any of the ones printed before 2012 (that was when I started reading the series), but I like the ones I read since. If you're a fan of Data I would recommend the Cold Equations Trilogy (big stuff happens with Worf as well), and also The Light Fantastic is a good continuation of Data's story. If you like Riker he plays a big part in Takedown. The Dayton Ward books are alright (apparently they're all titled after Rush songs) but he gets into the time travel stuff a lot. Later books delve into the Section 31 stuff a little too much but they're enjoyable. I don't want to give too much away so hopefully you'll enjoy them. Some of the books are great sequels to episodes of TNG.
Every once in a while they reference things I don't understand, though. Were they in previous books? Were they in episodes of Voyager or Deep Space Nine? I don't know because I didn't watch those shows.
I recommend looking for used paperbacks on thriftbooks, Amazon, or the Barnes & Noble marketplace because they're cheaper that way. Or you could just get the (overpriced) e-books. Every now and then there's a good sale on Kindle but they're few and far between.
Sorry for the long spiel.
Thanks for the pointers mate!
shareThey should also be in the library. I used to read novels based on the original ST.
shareOHHHH Yeah. The Original Series books are still my favorites, even though there's almost no room for character development. You can't really have any new stuff happen to Kirk, Spock, and co. that has any real effect on them.
shareTrue, but that was by choice.
I'm a Star Wars fan too and novels like The Thrawn Trilogy moved the characters forward with marriages, babies and death.
It would've been interesting to see them do the same with Picard. Lost opportunity.
I hope not given that it's abysmal.
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I also like it to remain faithful to the creators original vision. Star Trek's escapism and positive message appealed to me.
I get the impression from everyone's comments I'm going to hate Picard, but may watch just to see how much of a train wreck it is. I'll likely remove it from my memory like I did with Disney Star Wars.
Yes, the original vision didn't pretend there wasn't any tragedy or sorrow in the future, but it did offer hope for & belief in a better future. The whole world seems dystopian now, and for that reason we could use some positive vision, especially in a series based upon it.
shareYes, it is part of the canon of official Star Trek productions, some of which contradict each other in various ways but are still part of the same canon.
shareST: Discovery had too many contradictions and was dull so I quickly stopped watching. I'm in the middle of ST:Picard and so far I'm surprisingly enjoying it. I like the technology in the show which may pop-up in real life.
shareWhich book has Picard marrying and on a new Enterprise? Did he ever pursue a relationship with Dr. Crusher?
All canon is now determined by corporate ownership. So, whatever conglomerates run a "Star Wars" or "Star Trek" are going to do as they like. And, it's all based on marketing conditions and financial spreadsheets.
So, "Picard" is right from this paradigm.
"Picard" is fairly middling, and doesn't get to anything that really feels like actual "Star Trek" until the last two episodes. So, you can fast forward through the initial eight episodes so you can get to the last two.