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Well That Was Anti-Climatic Wasn't It?


Seriously, what a letdown of a series finale episode. All of this season long slow burn of a storyline leads up to a finale that isn't even the least bit satisfying & still we don't have all of our questions answered.

So after sitting through 9 episodes of this, when they finally have the final confrontation with El Cuco, there really is no violence on it's part or a last savage attempt to save it's own existence & kill it's hated enemies except for it's manipulation of Jack of course.

All we got was a bunch of talk that wasn't the least bit satisfying or enlightening. Actually I wanted to hear it answer Holly's questions, but Ralph was being freaking annoying telling it to shut up all the time which didn't make a lot of sense. You don't go into a situation like that vs something you didn't or couldn't believe in in the first place without taking away all you could learn from the encounter. As a cop, interrogation should come second nature to you.

As for "It", it was more ferocious & frightening in the eating scene with Jack the previous couple episodes, too bad they didn't try to go that route in the final standoff with it.

Don't know who the 2 spectres were, I figured they were the kids who first disappeared & got lost in the Bear Cave, but I could be wrong, but moving on, there was no real sense of evil or dread when they finally confronted "it" which just astonished me.

I'm at a loss for words, you finally stand in front of this thing, you should be quaking in your boots realizing how evil & brutal this entity is, but it comes off as anything but. Oh yeah & Holly asking "who's Terry?" when someone mentions Terry Maitland, I mean what the hell was that about?

Ralph who specializes in being so dead pan, you can't judge what this guy is thinking or feeling on a good day, at least stays consistent to the very end, & when he finally kills this thing, who's face does it finally transform into? I'm not sure what to make of it.

In the book from what I understand it's Holly who kills it, using a blackjack or something like that if I understand correctly, just before it tries to lunge at her & Ralph to kill them & you see a bunch of "stuff" or creatures emerge from it. That's a more suitable ending than this crap here. This is such a letdown after sitting through 9 long episodes of waiting for something only to have no payoff whatsoever. What say you all? You see things the same way as I? Would love to hear your thoughts.

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same really,
Holly & Ralph acted like the creature was just a man they hunted down & all they wanted to do was talk to him for 60 seconds & then kill him,
& Ralph knew the creature wasn't dead because it wasn't bleeding? why was he retreating with Holly until he saw the "ghosts" then?

Paddy Considine is a great actor yet they only give him 2min of screentime as the creature? completely wasted,
& his dickhead loudmouth brother...a few episodes ago i was thinking to myself "why is this character in the show??"
i got my answer here: to get shot almost immediately during the shootout scene lol

who's terry?
oh, just the guy that was the impetus for your entire involvement & investigation, nobody you should worry about or know his name...

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I found it refreshing that it wasn't so powerful. Why does every evil supernatural villain need to be? I was just hiding. It was unrealistic in that Pennywise seemed to be able to just grab who he wanted and no one in their right mind would ever go against him.

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I didn't really like this series, or movie or whatever it was.
I could go on all day about what I didn't like.
But, not that I liked it, but the tactic of doing like they did with the movie in the final showdown, because there was a lot of action in the prelude to the showdown with the gunfight was effective to turning my thoughts and experience on the inside. It was different, like you say, and all that predictability that we build up in our heads is sort of stuck unused ... in suspension.

The monster was so "unscary" that we keep looking for something more. I did think that was a clever and unique trick. And then the running the credits like 3 times to set off 3 little modifications to the ending ... that was kind of irritating.

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Yeah i was expecting some intense struggle/fight when they finally confronted El Cuco, but all that happened was a conversation, then it got shot, then got its head smashed in. I mean the thing sounded scary as fuck when it was feeding, making growling noises and roaring, we've seen how it tears people apart when eating them, and when they confronted it there was no fight or anything, it didn't even attempt to fight back.

I mean the real threat was Jack under El Cuco's influence, after Jack died its like El Cuco just gave up, as if it had no power or strength on its own.

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Well, if you think about it; we've had no indication that the Outsider has any sort of extra-normal strength:

It only goes after children
It had Jack kill everyone it ate
It uses subterfuge instead of brute force for just about anything (scratching people, coercing helpers, etc)

It's actually a testament to the story that the creature built up so much dread. I can't think of a single instance when it overpowered an adult.

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Gollard, please that's another problem I have with how this shit ended. I'm talking about the "children" part. Per Ralph's question to it. "Why children?" It: "They're the sweetest" Stupid freaking answer, stupid script, stupid writing. We were never led to believe that it killed children because it couldn't go after anyone else. As this show progressed, we are led to believe that it needed to kill & feed on children in order for it to survive, that nothing else would do adequately. Deer, bear, human adults, etc. Am I right? That is what we were being told I'm not wrong in assuming this?

To finally learn that "Hey I did it because they were the tastiest, not that I "needed to" was like the shows writers/producers laughing in our faces, giving us that bs explanation. But once more I don't think it did it, & even it never said that it did this because it couldn't prey upon anyone/thing else. Again that's another aspect of this that I"m angry with the way it turned out.

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Why is "they're the sweetest" stupid? It's pretty horrific, actually.
And I didn't mean to imply that they intended you to think Cuco couldn't go after anyone else. I'm just responding to the "super strength el Cuco" idea. . .we have no indication of such: he's only ever killed children. He avoids/runs away from adults in every other instance we're shown.

The idea that "nothing else would do adequately" was never introduced. . .that's your own assumption, not indicated at all in the story. Humans gravitate toward filet mignon, not hamburger. . .yes?

I was underwhelmed by the finale, but not so much because the logic failed. It was the pacing/ character arc/ payoff that failed for me. I don't mind a slow burn, but this was a slow burn that fizzled out.

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But why? They didn't even mention the climate, let alone say anything negative about it.

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They lost me when everyone decided to run around like idiots when there was a sniper firing at them. Then after killing half of the people, he decided he can't do it anymore and kills himself? Why not do that before you start picking people off?

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I think we are supposed to think that his "conscience" only woke up when Holly gave him that speech.


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New to Stephen King?

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MAN, MY WORDS EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a HUGE letdown that was.....


Guess I gotta read the novel once more....

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