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what would a non woke PG13 Harley Quinn movie have made?

posted 5 years ago by bozo_500 (13107)
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THE most important thing for a movie is to make money.. and while the likes of BoP, Charlies Angels, Terminator DF, GB2016, even Last Jedi etc get the great reviews/high RT scores from all the leftie critics many of these overly SJW/woke movies are underperforming/bombing because the mainstream general audience and fans of that series dont like to be preached to with all the Woke/metoo stuff and the SJWs are really only woke on twitter not so much when it comes to supporting woke movies that are part of a SciFi/action franchise they have no interest in

And if you look at the female led superhero movies: Cap Marvel did 1b not so much to being woke but a big Guardians type movie on earth while also being a prequel/origin movie to Avengers inbetween Infinity War/Endgame.. and WonderWoman was deemed a great movie that appealed to everyone not just women (and wasn't really considered a 'woke' movie anyway)

So if BoP wasn't so overtly woke, and had been PG13 like SS (I've read aside alot of F bombs didn't really need R and only went there due to Deadpool), and not done Birds of Prey but Gotham Sirens (Harley Catwoman Poison Ivy) with 'Harley Quinn' in the actual title (Harley Quinn & The Gotham Sirens) ..and maybe even had the Leto Joker returning for a few scenes (not written out completely) - then I guess it could've done closer to 100m opening like WonderWoman (and going on to similar box office to Suicide Squad domestic/worldwide).. not so much a 30m opening (which probably means total box office domestic around 70-80m and overall worldwide 200-250m)

but next the Gunn Suicide Squad sequel with HQuinn could be a big hit (and PG13)and then they'll probably make a non woke Gotham Sirens

[–] darkpast (8717) 4 years ago

$0.00

[–] Sarmoviefan26 (1368) 4 years ago

I think the woke thing wasn’t the only problem but the cast of the birds of prey.

The girls ( the Canary, Huntress and Montoya) weren’t charming enough or had the screen presence of let’s say Gal Gadot, Margot Robbie And yeah as much as many hate now Amber heard.

It was such a disappointing female cast compared to the very nice record DC had. They were nailing it before with the girls and then we got these really bland actresses.
I know Harley is the leading character but the group looks like it was the Pussycat dolls or destiny’s child instead of the spice girls.

They looked for actresses who fit better in a CW show than a High budget movie. More than bothering me the woke agenda it bothered me it was Harley Quinn and her chorus ladies.

I wanted a more even cast. I wanted the other three birds of prey to look as imposing and interesting as Harley Quinn