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LGBT Outlet And Social Media Users Fire Off ‘Trigger Warnings’ For ‘It: Chapter Two’


Snowflake Alert! Pride article came first, DailyWire explains why the scene is important.
"an interview with Variety in which director Andy Muschietti revealed why the scene is so important to the film"

https://www.dailywire.com/news/51502/lgbt-outlets-and-social-media-users-fire-trigger-frank-camp
https://www.pride.com/movies/2019/9/06/trigger-warning-it-chapter-two-features-graphic-gay-hate-crime

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So Pennywise eating children is fine, but god forbid anyone is mean to homosexuals? These people are mentally ill.

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hahaa exactly.

ALSO the Adrian scene is literally in the damn book..

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I didn't read the book.

But that opening scene is still a big wtf moment.


Same thing with Beverly. She did run away from her abusive father and 27 years later she's married to an abusive husband who's beating the shit out of her ?

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Victims of abuse often end up in abusive relationships.

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I'm still waiting for these morons to "discover" the mission Psycho Killer in Grand Theft Auto Vice City.

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That doesnt sound like so much as a "trigger warning", as a "you're going to hate this movie" warning.

I always appreciate that kind of warning myself.

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Showing violence against a gay couple for shock value in a horror movie isn't necessarily wrong, but lets not all pretend thats not whats happening here.

The scene was wrapped in identity politics. I see nothing wrong with calling it out for what it is.

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The scene was apparently in the book. It still felt out of place, since you'd have a hard time finding a group of hillbillies in Maine looking to go gay-bashing at a carnival, outside of 80s movies (or books, apparently).

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King based it on an actual event that happened in Bangor though so yes, in essence it did happen.

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Fair enough, but the event still seem dated.

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Well consider the source and the fault of them setting the film in current day as opposed to its original context.

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Look, I'm fine with them including this scene and all but to cop out (no pun intended) on having the thugs arrested (unlike in the novel) and leaving them to get away with physical assault against a couple of homosexual men is just bad writing. No wonder the reviews for this are not so "fabulous". I was really hoping they would include a 2-3 minute scene where cops interrogate the teens about the assault on Adrian Mellon and his boyfriend and possible murder, which the clown framed them for. Sigh, I fucking knew this shit would happen!

I'm still going to see this movie on the 20th, but I'm not watching the opening scene. I'm staying in theater lobby until that scene is over. I will be sickened that the attackers never got caught because Hollywood decided to go the lazy route with the ol' "slap on the wrist" routine.

I even did this same shit, 8 years ago when I saw Real Steel in theaters because there was a similar scene where the dad (and possibly the kid) get beat up by this mob boss guy for not paying him money, for robot boxing. Yeah, fuck toxic masculinity! FUCK IT TO HELL, FUCK IT TO OBLIVION, FUCK IT TO DAMNATION OF MANKIND, as a certain angry video game nerd once said. It's because of shit like that, which is why I want to reincarnate as a girl in my next life! They have it far less worse, when it comes to crap like that!

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Cody, I spoke today to a gay man who'd seen the original IT (2017) and he said he was keen to see the new movie. I warned him there was a "homophobic attack", and he said that that didn't bother him in the context that it was a work of fiction. If he sees it, I don't know how he's going to respond when he finds out that they apparently disappeared without a trace in the movie but that they got caught and blamed a "clown" in the book.

Don't get upset, but I think that Pennywise's influence over Derry means that any police involvement is usually "brief" and "cursory", meaning that IT will do anything to cover its tracks and will always try to prevent larger investigations going on into the murders and missing citizens of Derry. It has done this since the town was founded, and no doubt long before, in the general vicinity.

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I'm not actually gay but I am transgender, if that counts. So I do fall under the LGBT community, in addition to the Autism one.

I just don't understand why they didn't include a 2-3 minute scene with the cops arresting them and questioning them about the murder. That's what happened in the novel and you can't change that small detail. I really hope a deleted scene is made. If they can add a lot of unnecessary ones to Chapter 1, why can't they do the same with Chapter 2, but by adding one that's actually important.

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Here's the thing, if they stayed true to the novel and had the thugs caught and arrested, then this article would be a joke, but this is an exception I'm willing to make and I actually agree with this, had they arrested the homophobes, then this would be just plain nitpicking since there would've been justice for the gay couple. Not having the thugs caught by the police, (unlike in the novel) was beyond stupid!

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Ignore them.

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Ugh. It does feel like people are deliberately looking around for things to be offended by lately.

I'm often at odds with my gay brethren over this stuff, but I'm not remotely bothered; it's just fiction - why waste time being aggravated by it, unless it has been constructed deliberately to be offensive?

It was in the book, but not in the 1990 series, which seemed to bother SK fans as it was an effectively creepy scene, so they've put in this one instead. That's really all there is to it.

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It does feel like people are deliberately looking around for things to be offended by lately.

This has zero relation with 'being offended'.

A clue to tell apart is that people that find things offensive, they find them offensive even even if they happen one single time. It's the act itself that offends them. For example, one movie portrays a white male as a abuser and people complain, well, then you could talk about 'being offended'.

That's not the case here. White males are systematically portrayed as rapist, abusers, psychopaths, violent or thugs in modern mainstream movies. Every single movie needs to remind us how bad and nazi are white males.

When you complain about something that happens once in a while, that's being offended, when you complain about something systematic and deliberate, that's being fed up.

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This...isn't really what I meant. But work.

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