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So Tory and Samantha are friends.
Then Tory’s mother dies.
So now Tory hates Samantha again?
So they practice spar for rights to team captain. They get broke up by the adults. And Tory gets so mad that they didn’t let her fight? So she goes with sworn enemy Kreese again?
Seems kinda thin to me. I still like the show though and I’ll keep watching. But season 6’s first 5 episodes are a bit thin.
What makes no sense is Daniel stepping in and stopping the fight, as if she can't fight when she's grieving. How about letting Tory decide that for herself. For her to go to Kreese after that makes perfect sense, but having Daniel stop the fight like that is not the best writing.
shareFor me, it's kinda the opposite. Daniel stopping the fight was because "that's not balance" ala Mr. Miyagi's teachings. Tory going to Kreese's side seems strange to me because of what a butt hole he is. Did she lose her memory?
shareHow would it not be balance? Miyagi himself let Daniel compete - he recognised that this was exactly what Daniel needed. Why is fighting now suddenly not "balance"?
As for Kreese, he was never a butthole to Tory. In fact, he seems to care about Tory as much as he used to care about Johnny. Tory being upset with Kreese for telling her to look out for herself, now that makes no sense.
It would not be balanced because Tori didn’t do her kata beforehand so she would be too angry to make mature decisions. Instead, she would be implementing the strike, hard, strike first, no mercy, discipline. In other words, she would be the bad girl and not the good girl.
shareShe had already made up her mind to be part of the tournament before her mother died. She was fighting more aggressively, yes, but that was that one fight. Besides, what gives Daniel the right to make the decision for her? The wrong decision, at that. Way to step on someone when they're down, Daniel.
shareMaybe I missed this, but I don’t remember Daniel or Daniel‘s wife saying that Tori couldn’t enter the tournament. The only thing the LaRusso’s held her back from was just that one sparring match to determine who the leader of the girls team was going to be.
shareSure, but why deny her the chance to be captain?
share Daniel wasn’t saying that Tori couldn’t be captain, he was just saying she shouldn’t spar while under such distress. Otherwise she would have no balance, and it would go against the Miyagi way of training.
Like I said earlier in this thread, this new Tori character arc just seems kind of thin to me. Unless I missed the part where the LaRussos told her she couldn’t go to the competition at all.
Then why didn't Daniel say that? He told Tory, "you shouldn't fight", full stop - he didn't say "let's postpone this so you can fight when you're at the top of your game".
shareYou’re kind of proving my point. Tori‘s character arc doesn’t make any sense and season six’s storylines are pretty thin. It would’ve made more sense if Tori ran away from home, crying and quit karate than what actually happened on the show.
shareIt makes perfect sense for Tory to do what she did based on what Daniel did - but it doesn't make sense for Daniel to have stopped the fight in the first place.
shareDaniel stepped in and stopped the fight because he recognised that rage fueled Tori would obviously beat the living daylights out of his daughter.
Any parent would have stopped the fight asap in such circumstances.
It makes sense, her mother died, she’s hurting, she’s angry. She needs to fight, win or lose to work some of those emotions out. The Larussos took that away from her.
It has nothing to do with Sam, she is hurting and pushing everyone away. They are all her friends, Robbie is her boyfriend , and she didn’t reply to him either.
Kreese is not her sworn enemy, she was closest to him. More so than Johnnie or Daniel, and she lacks a parental figure in her life, so it makes sense to run back to closest thing she has to it.
In addition to the answers already given, i think also what krese said about how nepotism would mean she'd always be in Sam's shadow at miyagi-do also got to her when Daniel stops the fight with Amanda's encouragement.
Johnny doesn't help when he then questions their claim that it's nothing to do with Sam being their daughter.
And even before the fight got broken up, Daniel was protesting that Tory should be docked a point, something i doubt he'd have done if the opponent was anyone other than Sam or Anthony.
OK, I can get behind the nepotism idea. I can get behind Kreese using psychology to trick Tory. This theory makes sense to me. The whole sparring match that lead up to this event still seems strange to me though. People seem to think that the LaRusso’s were stopping Tori from Entering the competition. It’s possible I missed something, but all I saw the LaRussos do was stop the sparring match, which was supposed to find the winner who would become the team captain of the girls team. They never said “you can’t join the tournament“!
shareI actually don't think Kreese is trying to trick Tory. I think he cares for her, the same way he used to care for Johnny. We saw that in the All Valley finale, when Kreese urged her to fight how she felt best - instead of telling her to fight dirty, like he otherwise would. And again, in prison, when he tells her to get out and look after herself, rather than staying with Silver in a vain hope of finding a way to take him down. Tory takes offense at this for some reason, but Kreese was putting her interests above his own.
shareI didn't like that they just cut straight from this to them arriving at the tournament, so we don't know what happened in between - did people try to reach out to Tori after she'd walked off? had she just disappeared? etc
Maybe it'll be explained in the 2nd half.
It feels like they had this idea that they'd end the first half with Tori lining up for Cobra Kai, but weren't sure how they'd get there, and then ran out of sceeen time to build it up properly, so just had to jump to it at the end.
Problem for me is its intended dramatic impact falls flat because it was obvious that Tori would appear with them. It was so predictable, which is a pity because the show used to be great at anticipating what the viewer was expecting and then doing the opposite
People seem to think that the LaRusso’s were stopping Tori from Entering the competition.
Yeah it's pretty shit as far as plot goes. While the show is still entertaining, it's just not as good as season 1 was. Every season has gone down in quality, but still entertaining.
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