I was actually stunned how much this Movie just averaged. It was not a bad Movie but it was NOT top 250 material. I know that it can be different taste and such. But this Movie was like a cliche all the way. I dont understand why it is so highly rated!
fuck this Movie.
I made an account just to say it. AH HOW I MISSED IMDB BOARD MESSAGE THO
Hmmm, I don't know... average is hard to define. I gave it 5/10 so yes, average. There are certainly films on the list which I thought were worse than this.
The Dark Knight (2008)
Inception (2010)
American History X (1998)
Logan (2017)
The Deer Hunter (1978)
The Sixth Sense (1999)
Batman Begins (2005)
Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Deathly Hallows Part II, I think, is the only one (still) on the IMDb Top 250.
I don't want to malign anybody's taste, but I sorta cock an eyebrow at phrases like, "without a doubt" regarding film. There are usually exceptions, often several. Depending on taste, I'd throw a bunch more into play for "average" films that made it to the top 250.
This was also a bit in response to OP's specific complaints. He says it's "cliche", but he's ignoring stuff like Avengers? If you dig it, great, but these guys aren't re-inventing the wheel.
I see. Well personally I do not consider How To Train Your Dragon or Harry Potter to be average. In fact I consider Prisoner of Azkaban to be quite exceptional.
To me cliché can be overcome quite easily. Joker is cliché but the question is is it good? Cliché and bad is an issue for sure but even great films can be cliché. I agree about Avengers being cliché'. To me what I look at is does the film push boundaries technically? Does it have it have memorable compelling characters? Is the screenplay, and story written exceptionally? If a film is paint by numbers and only does things moderately okay then I do not consider it to be great.
Pretty weak reply. This movies message wasn't deep, it wore it right on it's sleeve. The OP is spot on. It's a good movie, it just isn't one of the greatest.
"vapid non-starters"?.... You sound like a child trying to use words he doesn't understand to attempt at being smart. That phrase holds no meaning in response to my comment, son.
Why dont you all faggots and sinners that lived the days here just go and paint your fkng godgiven nails with something disgusting that only an all-knowing hellworth would care about because the essential work is just too god damn hard tho?
It is, but top 250 is not what used to be and movies are not what they used to be. It is an enjoyable road trip movie and that is all. They probably gave it all the awards for the racial theme and simply because 2018 was a weak movie year.