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Not very consistent.


The car mirror.

They showed the car mirror as being broken BEFORE The accident. Which is not possible based on the logic of the movie. The car was not reversed so for the car the mirror should have been broken IN THE FUTURE, after the accident, not in the past ...

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In the movie, the effects created for anything reversed travel towards the past too, causality is reversed. So you see first the effects, and then the event that caused it. It happens in the bullets in the window, for example. Or with the bullet in the arm of the main character.

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For the main character makes sense - he is reversed.

For the car it doesn't since it is not reversed so the effect on the non-reversed item should still go forward.

In the case of the explosions is even worse: some bits should go back (the reversed ones) and some should go forward in time.

But anyway the reversed and nonreversed items shouldn't even be able to interact ...

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It seems that the effects produced by reversed objects or people move in time in a reversed way too.

You can't write the movie without that, interactions wouldn't make any sense. For example, you couldn't be fighting with a reversed person, since you killing him would mean that he would be dead in his future, which is your past, so you never fought with him in first place. Each interaction would create a feedback loop of changes. In a nutshell, each interaction would create paradoxes.

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Yeah but still, since the main object (the car) is moving forward in time it is IMPOSSIBLE for the crack to move backward ... it would move by itself ...

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The crack in the shot window moves forward in time (widens) when The Protagonist (that's his name) first saw it.

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You're right there. That was mistake. The crack should have shrunk.

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I was irked by the film's inconsistent approach to the breathing apparatus: we're first told that "Regular air won't pass through the membranes of inverted lungs", hence the need to bring your own 'inverted air' with you, but after that we see lots of examples of pairs/doubles (e.g. Kat watching herself) without breathing apparatus and "their own air".

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Kat was only inverted after she got shot by an inverted bullet in order to heal properly.
When you see her on the boat she's already been turntabled back to normal but exists as her future self in the past same as future Sator who came back to die in that moment of time.

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@Alex. You may be right about this. The more I think about it the more I don't think I understand the rules for how either turnstiles or temporal pincer movements are supposed to work.

I suspect that a lot of what we see (e.g., pincer groups that start from the same place nonetheless ending up at the same place and time in the past) can't be possible without *jumps*, i.e., a flat-out time-machine with which you can literally jump to any point you want in the past (and from there start moving forward or backward in time) and come back when you want, not just an inverter that allows you to start moving back from where you are. Maybe that's what's really bugging me - not inconsistency exactly but the never-mentioned additional 'in principle' tech that the scenarios we see unfold would require.

Note that I found Tenet fairly uninvolving so it's hard to commit to the additional watches that would be necessary to check this out! Tenet's no The Prestige in my view.

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For example Neil .. he is so many time reverted and de-reverted and reverted again that it's crazy.

And no one really "jumps" but "age" (couldn't find a better term, maybe ... walk?) in time, either forward either backward). Which is SO unfeasible.

Imagine that Neal had to "walk" back in time at least 10 years to reach the protagonist back at that moment ... which doesn't make sense with his age.

He said that he has a master or doctorate in that field, that means he got to at least 23-25 years old in the normal time and then he had to spend like 15 years reverted. That would make him at least 40years old. He didn't look that old in the movie ...

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