I didn't go see this movie for this very reason.
Back in 2017, they re-released T2 for a limited run. Now imagine IF they also tacked on a new post-credits scene -- the one from DF where John Connor is killed.
Can you imagine the outrage that would have prompted from fans:
"WTF was the point of this movie I just watched, if you're going to just kill off the central character immediately?
Why did we just watch the T800 sacrifice himself in the molten metal with that final thumbs up sign off, only to learn it was for nothing?"
Essentially, that's what they did by tacking that scene on to the beginning of DF.
That said, they MIGHT -- and I'm not even sure about this -- they MIGHT have been able to pull it off if they killed John off in a noble or heroic way, in service of the bigger saga. Maybe saving the new resistance leader, or saving Sarah (again, since he 'saved' her indirectly in the first movies)...
Just spitballin' here, but you get the idea.
They way they did it was completely disrespectful to fans of the first two movies.
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arflexit (2376)
5 years ago
You know you made me think, another way they could have killed off John Connor was to have him go out like the T-800; maybe do something where John starts to suspect as long as he is alive Judgment Day might still happen. But in all these cases, it would be years after the events of T2 when John is much older and it absolutely cannot be a T-800 that kills him; the imagery of it after the iconic conclusion of T2 is just freaking insulting; like a slap to the face.
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5 years ago
"maybe do something where John starts to suspect as long as he is alive Judgment Day might still happen."
From a story POV, that's a brilliant take.
Did you see Looper? This scene when Gordan-Levitt's character realizes the only way to change the future is for him to die...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B38C6nAQsI
They could have done something similar with this series. Man, there are so many ways to take this story to make it emotional...
i. John dies saving Sarah.
ii. John meets Kyle Reese. (They would be about the same age.) Together they are on a mission to stop Judgement Day. Armed with the knowledge that Kyle is his father, John sacrifices himself but sends Kyle back to the past with instructions to 'go find Sarah' so that Kyle and Sarah can live out their lives together in a peaceful past. (Shades of Endgame here...). Happy ending...
iii. Or go all bleak... have a situation where John introduces an older and shocked Sarah to a younger Kyle Reese. (John and Kyle would be about the same age.) On a mission to stop Judgement Day, both John and Kyle are put into danger and Sarah can save only one of them.
Her dilemma... sacrificing either John or Kyle will save humanity. Which will she choose? Either way, humanity wins but she loses. Bleak ending...
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arflexit (2376)
5 years ago
I have seen Looper; it was a decent movie, something like that might have worked for a Terminator reboot film.
There are many ways they could have done it better; it is like they had this idea to try to capture nostalgia by showing a younger Sarah Connor and a CGI'd Edward Furlong but at the same time wanted to kill him off and basically put the 2 ideas together in the same rushed scene. Which was just dumb.
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