Do other people agree that this lame old man called Schwarzenegger does more damage to the series than good?

But he clearly doesn't care about this franchise. Cameron told Arnold to be in T3 just for the money. And then in Genisys, Cameron only endorsed that steaming pile of crap because Arnold was in it. And now in Dark Fate, Arnold is only in it for the paycheck. If he truly was obsessed with playing the terminator as he claimed recently on some stage, he should be obsessed with not fucking up the role by pissing all over it and disrespecting what made him famous in the first place.

Predator movies work without Arnold too - in predator 1, Arnold just happened to be the guy chosen for sport by the Predator. In number 2, it was Danny Glover. Oh and of course, what did Arnold say about Predator 2? He didn't like it. Hmm I wonder why? Because he wasnt in it, perhaps? He also said the same thing about Salvation when it came out. And despite what ppl say, I have always said despite its flaws, Salvation was the step in the right direction for the Terminator series.

The same Predator scenario could be applied to the Terminator franchise. Why is it that it is always a CSM-101 model (Arnold appearance) sent back? SkyNet being this all knowing military tactician would know that it makes no sense to send back the same models of T800s for identification purposes. They would send back CSM-102's, 103's etc.

Arnold dint need to be in Terminator 2, or even the later films. There are countless different T800 models as depicted in Terminator 1's future flashback scene were Frank Columbo played the terminator infiltrator attacking Kyle Reese.

I get that, it all isnt Arnold's fault but I think he is partly to blame in this. I mean think about it, why does he need to be in these movies if his character is just being shoehorned in? If Arnold has such star power which we all know he does, why doesn't he take it upon himself to fix the movie's script? After all, without a good script, you don't have a good movie.

Stories need to feel natural... they need to flow naturally with characters that are included organically. And fair enough, shoehorn in a character fine, but then AT LEAST make the character believable or even remotely recognizable to it's original blueprints in one way or another. He is just playing another typical protector role and in no way is this different from his role in T2, T3, TG. This is four times now where Arnold is playing a lovable robot instead of what he was meant to be all along - a bloody heartless killing machine.

Arnold's T800 was just forced into Dark Fate because Cameron supposedly said he wouldnt work on it if Arnold wasn't in it. Why? Things change James, you can't relive the glory years of Terminator. Arnold is old and you have moved onto other projects.

Gonna have to agree, Arnold's presence only served to elevate the movies - it's just hard to elevate shit to any meaningful degree.

While Salvation, and particularly Genisys were absolute horrid shit, T:DF and, to a lesser degree, T3 are ok when isolated and entertaining - they just aren't good enough to come after the first two, story and characterwise...

I'm sure the person who poses as him on his official social media accounts would retort with a well constructed witty comment aimed to embarrass me in front of his millions of star blinded followers.

The idea of Arnold playing the human template would have been much better. You just know that that the producers during TDF must have been aware that fans were hoping for that theory to be true.

I remember when it was announced that Cameron was going to have a bigger involvement in TDF, he himself alluded to the idea that Arnold's character in TDF would be the human template on which SkyNet would use for all CSM-101 models.
So this had me initially believing that old man Arnold would be playing a human because why else would Cameron have mentioned this human template stuff.


But noooope! Old man Arnold sure loves thinking he is a fucking robot, because guess what? He played a robot. Again. Hopefully for the last time.

I agree that there will always be an element of 'you cant have a Terminator movie without Arnie' aspect, and the studios know it's far easier to sell a movie worldwide with him on board.

But my personal feeling is that he is not needed...he has had his day. I would welcome a Terminator movie without him, and one that explores the future war scenario, instead of keep rehashing the idea of different terminators keep coming back to assassinate someone..

That's one of the reason I liked Salvation. For all its faults it took a different approach and at least tried.

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