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It didn't make sense that he was ......spoiler


willing to kill a bunch of innocent people. I think just killing Balq would have been more realistic.

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This is a movie. It's fiction. It's not real. Why does it have to conform to what you think "makes sense"?

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it was too far fetched for this character who was such a decent person.

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Once again, IT'S FICTION. It doesn't have to be what you think is not "far fetched". Geez!

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then call it fantasy.

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Did anyone say it's NOT fantasy?? Fiction CAN BE fantasy. Does the title have to have the word "fantasy" in it, jump off the screen, and smack you in the face before you understand it doesn't have to be what you want it to be? Go make your own video; you'll probably love that more than anything talented screenwriters, actors, and directors can create. I'm sure you would watch it over and over and over and never get tired of it.

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Imdb has it listed as Drama/Thriller.

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Do you take EVERYTHING so literally, understanding everything in black and white with no gray in between? A drama/thriller CAN BE FANTASY. Maybe I have misjudged you. I thought you were an adult who just doesn't have a clue and has a hard with anything more complicated than not confusing the hot and cold water taps. But you're a child, right?

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No need to call names. I saw the movie in a different light than you.

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Actually, I think in your mind it was a completely different film than what everyone else sees. When it goes from the screen to your mind, it gets changed to something completely unlike the real film. That's why I thought you were a child. That's how children see films made for adults.

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This is something I find bothersome as well. People constantly expecting movies to "make sense." The fact that it's fiction means it doesn't have to conform to "reality." Beyond that, the fact of the matter is that even real life doesn't "make sense."

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it is not at all unreasonable to examine the motivation of a character. in fact, writers, directors, actors all roll these questions over in their heads all the time. especially when they want their dramas to carry weight.

your take is kind of ridiculously officious. no one put you in charge of anything. just like anyone else, you may or may not have an opinion as to such questions of plausibility - which is a figure of merit, is a challenge.

as to the the op - i think it might be related to the main character's extreme alienation owing primarily to the the sense of being duped, a dupe - his credulity concerning memes of god & nation leading his son to ruin. followed by the other fellow's suicide, his alcohol poisoning, his cancer, the sense of desolation overwhelming him. it is still a challenge understanding that extremity, which flies directly into the face of his native values - but does show the stresses at work within him.

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Your entire argument is terrible. You don't get to just shrug off any criticism with a film by saying it's fiction. That's horrid logic.

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My guess is, that if he had a plan at all, it was to get the corporate big shots - who were not "innocent" in his eyes - all together in one place some time during the ceremony or after, then detonate the vest and hope that it would blow up with just enough force to kill the executives but no-one else.

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Then why was he so worried that Mary wouldn't come? He was accepting to kill everyone there.

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I think you are right, but it could have been he didn't want her to witness or be so near another tragedy after losing her husband.

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IDK.... You will often see suicidal men kill their families too because he feels responsible for them, and having no hope it would be cruel for him to leave them to it.

Also, remember, the governor would go in the blast, too. Adequate punishment for allowing one of the worst polluters to write the law. And of course Cedric (corrupt) who now uses the $$$ to run the historic church which was on the side of civil rights. The whole thing's just irreversibly ruined by corporate filth -- Balq and ABUNDANT Life.

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