What did you think?


I only saw the first half of the premier, but I thought it was dour and depressing. And surprisingly anti-cop, since the antagonists are supposed to be a street gang.

Maybe it gets better....

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It was a typical first episode. I'll give it a few before deciding definitively.

Since I bought the fist season pass on Amazon for 3.99....I kind of HAVE to

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i didn’t hate it. i will watch a few more episodes before deciding. i never heard of black lightning before.

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I'll keep it short when i say it was ...fun to watch. I like that it isn't filmed like other hero shows for TV. Feels like there's alot of freedom in direction. As a black guy, i hope this isn't a extreme pro black show. Every time someone shows up, it's a black person.

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i didn’t hate it. i liked the lead actor and his daughters. i’m willing to give it a chance. i wish it was on netflix though.

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As a black guy, i hope this isn't a extreme pro black show. Every time someone shows up, it's a black person.
You probably need to word your concern clearer. Why does someone showing up being a Black Person make the show extreme Pro black? What is wrong with being Pro Black?

what does Extreme Pro Black even mean?

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He dosen't know. Anyway, there is nothing wrong the show being pro-black. I still haven't seem it myself, but I'd love to. Tired of people expecting one show about black people to represent ALL black people---that's unrealistic and stupid. It's just ONE show,period.

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To me, there's nothing wrong with being "pro black" or "pro white (Japanese, Croatian, Latino, etc.) but if someone is "pro white" they're labeled as racist. If one is pro black or whatever, they should have no problem with someone else being pro white or whatever.

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False Equivalency: a logical fallacy in which two completely opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not.

Do you understand the difference between why, who, what and when "Pro" derives?

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Please explain. I'm open minded.

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Please explain "what"? The definition of "False Equivalency"?

Let's start with this assumption by you:

but if someone is "pro white" they're labeled as racist. If one is pro black or whatever, they should have no problem with someone else being pro white or whatever.
Please explain why you feel, believe that to be true?

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Why does this need to be explained? I like red but I don't have anything against people who like green. You like green and you hate people who like red.

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So you take "Pro" anything as just having a preference for one thing.

Except...

Neither "Red" nor "Green" have a preference for one or the other which would have been the proper equivalency.

Let's try and understand just one "Pro" stance, a need for being treated equally in the eyes of society.

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I agree. I'm "pro" all peoples being treated equally in society so by default, I'm "pro white" which gets me labeled as a racist. I'm also by default, "pro black" but that doesn't get me labeled as a racist. I don't see any logical fallacy in my position.

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I agree. I'm "pro" all peoples being treated equally in society so by default, I'm "pro white" which gets me labeled as a racist. I'm also by default, "pro black" but that doesn't get me labeled as a racist. I don't see any logical fallacy in my position.
No there are many who feel that Pro-Black is racist, separates society, foments racism, is a racist stance, negates a Color-Blind Society and necessitates a counter from another side. Pick one.

There is no default position of "Pro-Black" being benign. Thus the term False Equivalency.

There is the desire to neuter the position of Pro-Black (to support those people of color who have been treated unfairly) to mean Anti-White or Anti-All-People. There is also the agenda to disconnect Pro-Black and People of Color as a class that requires "Special Treatment". The 3/5th's Amendment suggested otherwise.

When Pro-White is a response to Pro-Black when there never was a need for Pro-White (yes there is the dream of Human without the Pro) then readers will attribute your stance of Pro-White as racist.

When there is a reactionary cause to label anything Pro-White for no reason that can be explained, that makes sense, that has precedent, except well they did it why can't I do it?, there will be an accusation that it is a racist position to hold.

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I fundamentally agree with you but for the false equivalency. Human history will show this. Every race, religion, creed, etc., has been "treated unfairly" at some point(s) in history but there's a HUGE faction who feels they have the right to determine the validity of those claiming oppression or other wrongs perpetrated on them. Kinda like you are claiming "there never was a need for pro white." Whites (among others) have been persecuted and still are but in some places, it's justified by these factions because they may have oppressed others which, really illustrates the need for a more honest view of your "well they did it why can't I do it?" statement. Who defines the precedent (or lack thereof)? In truth, everyone has precedent.

The oppression, etc. perpetrated throughout history really confirms your last point, except instead of "pro white", it really is "pro anyone".

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I like red but I don't have anything against people who like green. You like green and you hate people who like red.
Neither of those two statements have anything to do with being "Pro" something unless you twist "Pro" to be about the difference between love and hate of something.

I (Red) like Japanese (Red) but don't have anything against Japanese or Chinese (Red or Green) who like Chinese (Green). You (Chinese) like green (Chinese) and you (Japanese or Chinese) hate people (Chinese or Japanese) who like Red (Japanese).

This is how you understand "Pro" to be, to come to exist and the reason it exists? No I do not understand your feeling or belief of why Pro-Black is the same as Pro-White is the same as Pro-Japanese is the same as Pro-Chinese is the same as Pro-Red, or a preference for the color red or the color green, out of context to anything in history past, present or future.

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Look at my last post. Hopefully you will understand that. It's really not complicated.

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Look at my last post. Hopefully you will understand that. It's really not complicated.
I read your post, I pondered all your posts and I have given you probably a much more uncomplicated reply than you anticipated.

Being Pro-Black is not about liking Black without not-liking White. One meaning of being Pro-Black is a societal position of dealing with the issues of unequal treatment of Blacks because of their race.

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I agree, just like being pro white isn't about liking white without not liking black, although more often than not, both sides seem to be anti-the other side which is unfortunate. In humans, it's unusual for someone to be for something without being against something else to some degree.

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I agree, just like being pro white isn't about liking white without not liking black, although more often than not, both sides seem to be anti-the other side which is unfortunate.
But you never explained what being "Pro-White" even means?? No, both sides DON'T seem to have an Anti-The Other position. This may be your perception but it is NOT the reality. Additionally this isn't a chicken or egg conundrum. If you are from the USA Pro-Black rose from the conditions that People of Color were living under. Necessity being the Mother of Invention brought forth a Pro-Black movement unique to the historical oppression of Blacks, Negroes, Colored People, People of Color that were disenfranchised, marginalized and systemically excluded from full participation in the American society.

What are the roots of "Pro-White"? How is being Pro-White equivalent to being Pro-Black?

**In humans, it's unusual for someone to be for something without being against something else to some degree.**

Why do you believe this to be true? And if this is your foundational truth why would you be Pro-White by default? That makes no sense as it is cynical and not hopeful. MLK in the USA isn't celebrated for that belief. Pro-Black has many supporters who are not Black and who are labeled with denigrating terms to delegitimize them and a Pro-Black stance as aiders and abettors of reverse racism.

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I'm actually not pro white or pro any race which I stated. I'm happy being me and I'm happy you're you. If you don't see the hate in the "pro whatevers" out there, you need to get out more or at the very least, find a good news source! Yes, pre equal-rights, there was a need for activism but I was referring to our present times. People should be treated equally but aren't and never will be, thus the pro-whatever stances which brings back my point: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Obviously I don't mean if you're pro environment, it's acceptable for me to be pro-ax murder. Like for like. If you hate, you have no right to accuse someone else of hate. I do understand that's a pretty idealistic position but doesn't improvement start idealistically?

Simply put, if one likes (prefers) something, they like something else just a little less. If someone likes a sports team, they dislike the rival teams, etc., etc., etc. As far as reverse racism goes, do you think it's a reality? My perception of the root tenets of the pro-white movement would be the same as the pro-black movement: Equality. Same with gender equality. What a bag of worms that is! There are countless examples of discrimination against men that are completely disregarded by the pro-women juggernaut. Equality is an elusive creature. The pendulum never stops in the middle.

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I think I know what you mean. The show needs to have some well rounded white characters to seem real. It shouldn't be the race-shifted opposite of shows where white people do everything and the only black characters are dopey stereotypes or, even worse, completely non-existent.

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Never saw it.


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Boring, typical CW drivel.

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It's a mixed bag. There are good ideas like the social commentary on police brutality, and I enjoy Cress's actting. But it is predictable in so many ways; we heard the dialogue so many times in so many scenes, but it's still enjoyable!
However, THIS SUIT HAS TO GO!! Totally ridiculous! Might as well get Robert "Townsend's Meteor Man" 's outfit while they're at it! Smh...

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Yeah, that suit isn't the greatest. However, since Black Lightning's mentor is a tailor, maybe there's some hope for a new version.

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How else would you convey that his suit taps in to his powers to help him do things like deflect bullets?

Not possible with a leather suit like the other shows without lame effects.

I personally LOVED the Meteor Man costume.

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It's not great so far to say the least but I will give it a fair chance.

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Took time to develop. Built up over the season.

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Based on the traffic here, the audience for it seems to be about the size of the membership of Tripe (the fish preparation, not the adjective) Lovers United. Having Arrow for a lead-in probably isn’t helping; but this thing has Zero appeal for me. How about you?

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I would be dishonest to claim I know what typical CW fare is, but it sounds like a good summation of what I have seen of Black Lightning. The story line and writing is terribly cliche. I get the impression the producers believe whatever works for an actual comic book is good enough for a live action production, which makes the whole thing seem very thin and formulaic.

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