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They needed a bigger name; That's all.

posted 9 years ago by strycker-1
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I love 24 dearly, and Jack Bauer. Without him, I think we can all agree, it won't be the same. However, casting a almost nobody actor is a HUGE mistake. They should of thrown some money at a bigger TV actor or a B-movie actor to show that their taking this seriously and to provide the audience with some familiarity.

Wesley Snipes
Clark Gregg
Justin Theroux
Nic Cage (Kinda joking, kinda not)
Idris Elba (Would of been badass, but his career is on the rise)
Philip Winchester or Sullivan Stapleton (Strike Back)
David Morrissey
Lennie James

Or, y'know, they could of just make a Tony-centric 24.

[–] Littlegismoe 9 years ago

First of all, they wanted a 20 something actor to play a 20 something character.

Second, honestly i wouldnt pick any of them. Phillil Winchester would be the closest, but i feel he did some action similar with Strikeback and the Player and he was in 24 before anyway.

[–] Littlegismoe 9 years ago

I wouldnt mind Tony being the main character on 24. A different style.

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[–] Persuader24 9 years ago

Tony is a bad guy now people. He can't be the lead. You can't have a bad guy being the main lead/protagonist. People seem to forget that Tony is no longer a good guy.

[–] strycker-1 9 years ago

Eh, Tony could make up for his sins and all that jazz. Either way, forgetting Tony. My very rough list aside, it doesn't change the point. A nobody in what has become a legendary role is a mistake. The actor or actress to play the successor to Kiefer Sutherland should have a little more of a track record than this dude.

[–] activista 8 years ago

@strycker-1

A nobody in what has become a legendary role is a mistake.

How the heck do you think some unknown actors make a name for themselves and become big in the first place? By starring in reboots or heading up new franchises because someone thinks they're worth taking a chance on. Unknown white actors get the lead in action films/TV series virtually ALL the time---did anybody know who the main actors starring in THE FLASH, ARROW, or DAREDEVIL as those characters were before they got the role? Nope. My point exactly. Also, having a track record as a name does not always guarantee a hit movie or TV show, mo matter how good it is---and that's a known fact.

[–] shogunreaper 9 years ago

Tony wasn't a bad guy, he was just jack bauer ramped up to extreme.

he did what he had to do to root out the corruption that got his wife killed.

[–] Persuader24 9 years ago

Sorry. Tony turned into a bad guy. He killed Larry Moss in cold blood so he wouldn't get in his way. That isn't Jack Bauer ramped up to the extreme. That's just being plain and down right bad. Which by the way, I liked a lot.

Tony was willing to blow Jack up into thousands of pieces to get Alan Wilson. He shot two FBI agents in cold blood, and blow up a dozen more. That's not being "Jack Bauer ramped up to the extreme." Totally different. What you're describing is what we saw Jack do in season 8. Tony went way beyond that. Remember, Tony was willing to set off a terrorist attack in a subway station by releasing a deadly pathogen. That isn't Jack Bauer and Jack would never do that. Even when Jack went bad in season 8, he still remained true to himself. Tony was not like Jack in season 7. He was a terrorist.

So you can't have someone who is a bad guy/terrorist, all of a sudden becoming a good guy and being the main lead in the new show. That's just dumb and wouldn't work and would make no sense. From what we last saw of him in season 7 and Solitary, it just would not make sense for him to all of a sudden starring as a good guy again. Those days are gone.

[–] shogunreaper 9 years ago

thats exactly jack ramped up to the extreme

Jack would sacrifice a smaller number of lives to save the larger number.

That's what tony was doing, just on a larger scale.

the people he was after were in the business of killing people, and their plan with or without tony was to conduct multiple terrorist attacks to take over the country which would have killed tens of thousands of people.

[–] Persuader24 9 years ago

No. Season 8 Jack was Jack ramped up to the extreme. What we saw Tony do was not Jack like at all. He went way beyond the scope of what Jack would do for revenge. Not the same.

Jack does not sacrifice small number of lives for the larger number. He does not intentionally seek out to kill innocents to save millions. Tony did in season 7 when he was willing to set off a pathogen in a crowded subway that would have killed thousands of innocent people. Jack has never done that.

Sorry, but your comparison for saying Tony does what Jack was doing but on a larger scale is false and inaccurate. Tony went way beyond anything Jack has ever done for revenge. Anything Jack did in season 8 for revenge, was no where near as bad as what Tony did in season 7. They're both on two totally different levels. Because remember, every single person Jack went after in season 8 were BAD people. Tony went after bad people too, yes, BUT killed innocents along the way. That's the difference.

the people he was after were in the business of killing people, and their plan with or without tony was to conduct multiple terrorist attacks to take over the country which would have killed tens of thousands of people.

Yes except the difference is that Tony HELPED them set off terrorist attacks to kill innocent people. Jack never helped anybody set off terrorist attacks.

[–] rbeal90 9 years ago

Ding ding ding ding ding. Persuader24 wins that fight.

[–] rbeal90 9 years ago

LOL

[–] Volley2020 9 years ago

Some of you need to watch Day 7 again. Tony is a very bad person. He's incredibly twisted and vile. To make him a force for good and taking the place of Bauer would be ridiculous and out of character.

[–] rbeal90 9 years ago

You're right. You win.
Oh, and with an Avatar like that, I'm not sure what you said.

[–] duraturk 9 years ago

Even if they wanted a younger lead, I believe there are for more better choices.
Ryan Eggold (Tom Keen) from The Blacklist would have been a very good replacement.

[–] I_Guard_Tanelorn 9 years ago

So much as Kiefer was the big draw that got 24 off and running, I think his huge star power was also a detriment to the show in terms of his control and laboring of the budget. I think they wanted to avoid all that this time around.

"I said no camels, that's five camels, can't you count?"

[–] urciuoli16 9 years ago

Everyone who is worried, Jacks story won't be closed. It will be at some point. Kiefer has stated he is open to returning to 24 Legacy to close Jack's chapter of 24! Manny Coto revealed they plan on bringing Jack back at some point and Tony as well. Tony may very well appear as well! Same with Chloe and other former characters.

24 Legacy, is a spinoff that takes place in the same universe as 24! 24 Legacy is not a reboot! There was no corporate mandate by bringing 24 back from Fox. Fox actually said to the writers to take it slow, careful and only proceed with 24 Legacy if they felt they had a story fans would love! So any characters that are alive can return at anytime.

This is an expansion of the 24 universe where they are trying to establish a new world of 24. Once the new characters are establishes, old favourites will come back. There is even a decent chance for a 24 movie or TV movie of 24!

24 Legacy is will be relatable to today's culture as well just like the original 24! And Fox knows they have to work extra harder to make 24 Legacy live up to the success of the original!

Kiefer Sutherland signed on as Executive Producer and has stated from season 1 that the real star of 24 is the real time format, the ticking clock, adrenaline, awesome story telling, great characters, suspense, action, tension, cliffhangers, edge of your seat viewing! Its called 24 because its about an adrenaline race against the clock to stop a devasting terrorist attack. Jack is just a character made by the writers who fans loved. The writers can create another loved hero as well! Kiefer said the 24 Legacy script is cool, fantastic, phenominal! Also the Pilot had great reviews from critics and advertisers were raving about it at the upfronts!

Kiefer played Jack for 204 episodes and wants a break as the lead. He felt how many bad days can one character have before the show becomes a mad comic? Kiefer is all about protecting the Legacy of 24 and Jack, and never wants to damage it or ruin it. Kiefer would not sign up as Executive Producer for this if he knew it was bad. Kiefer is not about money what so ever. The writers will have creative freedom and won't be so liberating for them to write for one character!

Its either we find out what happens to Jack through 24 Legacy or no 24 ever again! Take your pick!

Also its only 1 installment Jack is potentially not in. Corey Hawkins is a great actor, having went to the best acting school, was on Straight Outta Compton and Walking Dead!
People will say after watching Legacy, they want more Eric Carter! 24 Legacy will be so much better than Bourne Legacy and do not judge 24 Legacy from one trailer when episodes 2-12 have yet to be written or filmed and promoted!

Also all the original writers who made 24 a big success are back! Manny Coto, Evan Catz, Howard Gordon, Brian Grazer, Robert Cochran, Joel Surnow, Jon Cassar, Stephen Hopkins, Dana Walden and Gary Newman! These writers are the best creative team ever! They also have a new writer named Nikki Toscano to bring in new fresh ideas

24 Legacy will have a new CTU, will be about the potential to activate new sleeper cells and radicalize Americans and take place in Washington DC! They got the idea of 24 Legacy inspired by Seal Team 6. This is relatable to today's times! 24 Legacy will be more modernized.

Also it took Jack Bauer 4 years to return after season 8. Season 8 ended in 2010 and Jack came back in 2014. Jack Bauer will be back in 24 Legacy by 2018, 4 years after 24 Live Another Day season 9. 24 Legacy is a whole new chapter, new evolution of the series and a fresh start! This will last a very long time!

Howard Gordon has stated the plan is to bring in Jack's cohorts for 24 Legacy! If successful the second season and so on will have 24 episodes every year again!

24 Legacy will be fresh, engaging and compelling! This will be fantastic!

24 Legacy will find a whole new audience, keep the old fans and current fans as it premieres after the superbowl. Also Fox will promote the hell out of this during the Fall, World Series, and football playoffs in January!

So do not write 24 Legacy off just yet! Give it a chance! Its okay to love Jack Bauer, but there are other heroes out there who deserve a chance too.

[–] CptHowdy87 9 years ago

I love 24 dearly, and Jack Bauer. Without him, I think we can all agree, it won't be the same. However, casting an almost nobody actor is a HUGE mistake. They should have thrown some money at a bigger TV actor or a B-movie actor to show that they're taking this seriously and to provide the audience with some familiarity.

[–] rik-938-114271 8 years ago

Kiefer was not that big of a name when initially cast. 24 made him a much bigger star. The same can happen here. We should give it a chance. If the writing is there and the acting supports it ... we might be happy they chose as they did.