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So what REALLY happened to the 2014's missing Malaysian flight MH-370?


Are we to believe that in March 2014's this disappearing flight has simply crashed somewhere but due to various circumstances including technical ones radar and other professional equipment wasn't able to pick up or locate its missing whereabouts and therefore establish fully and 100% what happened to it?

And its not possible per say that maybe it landed somewhere in some mysterious location where no signals are able to be transmitted and maybe crew and passengers survived for a few days and also, say if passengers ultimately did survive, they would indeed have turned up by now, right?

So yeah in a nutshell, what exactly happened to the plane, and if it outright crashed, then why, what were the causes of this tragic catastrophe in your opinion, thanks.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd2KEHvK-q8

This is a pretty good watch on the flight, covering a few different aspects you mentioned (it's been a while since I watched it, however)

I don't think there is any chance they survived. They've found pieces of debris from the plane on the coastlines of Madagascar.

I don't think there was a 100% story on the pilot (again it has been a while since I've watched or read on the flight) but there were some suspicions around him being at fault purposely, but nothing ever proven. I think he may have had the same flight path scouted out on his home PC?

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The first thing that came to mind was the debris from the plane that was found so that to me eliminates any possibility that the plane landed somewhere intentionally.

And I also remember hearing that the pilot had the route charted on his home flight sim (which apparently was one hell of a simulator).

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I remember hearing that as well, but I didn't remember if it was the exact route. I feel like that may have been covered in the Lemmino Youtube video I posted but I haven't rewatched it.

It's not unusual for pilots to have flight simulators at home, but I would think it would be very unusual to have that specific route traced since it went over the middle of nowhere.

And yeah - no way it landed anywhere. Debris was found along Madagascar that linked it directly to the plane, they were able to trace parts/serial numbers or similar.

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I believe it WAS the exact route or at least something very close to it. So close that it being a coincidence strains credulity.

And I think what I heard about the simulator was that it was a super-fancy and expensive set-up with all the bells and whistles, about as close as you can reasonably get to flying a plane at home. What I came to understand was that the dude was basically obsessed with being a pilot.

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I'll have to dig back into the story then - I thought by the end of the investigation it was conflicted if he was really at fault. Weird he would be obsessed with flying but then crash the plane. But yeah... having the exact route is highly suspect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd2KEHvK-q8#t=15m18s

That's the relevant bit I remember from my link above. Starts talking about the pilot, route, home setup, his history. The one big takeaway I had from reading and looking at different things was that the Malaysian government held a lot of details from the public.

There was some talk about a new search going out for the aircraft in the past month. The search won't get going I think for a while though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQL5oHLx_l0

Supposedly it's somewhere about 2000km away from Perth according to a new investigator with some new technique Weak Signal Propogation.

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Thanks for the links.

Re: the first link, it's interesting that he quotes from the report that there was no indication that the pilot had been under any duress because I believe I remember hearing that there was some evidence that he had demonstrated signs of depression recently in the weeks or months leading up to the incident. (I may be misremembering, but that's what I recall.)

Also, what I looked at clearly indicated that something very close to the route the plane took was mapped out on the sim, but this video seems to cast that into doubt.

I wish I could remember all my sources. It was a combo of documentaries and podcasts. Pretty sure one source was the Smithsonian doc and I think one was the Black Box Down podcast episode on the incident.

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You watch too much Hollywood shows. It crashed and drowned. One day some youtube treasure hunters or some other activists will find it, by using radars and underwater robots. Like they did find Titanic.

Maybe it landed on water somehow intact when pilots tried to land it. And then quickly drowned. And thats why there wasnt that many debries to be found.

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My guess is that it was shot down and no one wants to fess up over fear of retribution.

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That's entirely possible. Some small country could've shot it down and then the government went into cover-up mode. Would not surprise me at all.

That said, this explanation doesn't explain all the facts. For instance, air traffic control lost contact with the plane long before the plane actually went down. We know this because there was an automated system that was still pinging and giving a general indication of the plane's coordinates long after communication was lost, so the plane was still in the air.

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Oh interesting. Good to know. Been reading a lot about MK Ultra lately and some of the shady shit the US has been involved in over the years. I wouldn't be surprised if the crash could have been some sort of experimental EMP device test. That's just some crazy ass conspiracy off the top of my head. They can be fun to think about. Who knows.

Thanks for the facts about this incident!

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Haven't watched it yet, but figured this could add to the conversation. 20min long.

"New breakthrough could finally solve the mystery of missing flight MH370 | 60 Minutes Australia"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq-d4Kl8Xh4

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