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Here we go again...

posted 7 years ago by [deleted]
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I have no doubt a great, original movie with an all-female lead cast would be awesome. I just wish the studios wouldn't cheat by trying to piggy-back on the name of a previous, successful franchise (see: Ghostbusters). I believe women can always hold their own in a film and they deserve sharp, original material to work with. Sequels, reboots, etc., sell these women short. Give them an original script already! If Hollywood is serious about taking women seriously, stop giving them training wheels.

(And yes, The Book Club may not have done so well, but at least it was an ATTEMPT at original material)

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Gotta agree.

There's perpetual talk of casting a female to play James Bond (Jane Bond? Jamie Bond?).

Atomic Blonde was wholly original, made back twice it's modest budget and did well enough with critics and moviegoers to earn a sequel. It was a female driven movie that stood well enough on its own, no need to fall back on a re-make of a male led franchise.

It can be done. No amount of good will generated by associating a 'female' movie with an established 'male' franchise will overcome a bad script and mediocre directing. (I'm looking at you Ghostbusters...).

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I need to watch Atomic Blonde. I keep hearing good things about it.

[–] kjc211 (52) 7 years ago

Ocean's 11 is a remake. Did you say the same thing about that?

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 7 years ago

But there were no g-g-g-g-girls leading it! and they're so icky with their soft squishy parts!

As for Ghostbusters, I saw the remake once it was out of theaters because I had no burning desire to see it. Was it anywhere good as the original? No. Of course not. But it was not the crime against humanity the internet painted it to be. Plus, i checked after seeing this and no, my copy of the original did not magically disappear.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

TJL, snarky, not-too-intelligent comments add nothing to the conversation. If you had anything resembling critical thinking and reading skills, you'd understand my comment had nothing to do with the fact that women were in the movies. Quite the contrary. And I see you presented the usual nonsense about the original "not disappear(ing)" because of a remake. The logical fallacy you make there is thinking the two issues are related. In the future, PLEASE think a little before you post generic, emotional nonsense that contributes nothing to the conversation.

PS -- Have a nice day

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 7 years ago

Your words weren’t about it but your intent was there.

Nice SAT word usage, though.

[–] therefdotcom (964) 7 years ago

"not-too-intelligent comments add nothing to the conversation."

"PLEASE think a little before you post generic, emotional nonsense that contributes nothing to the conversation."

how about you start?

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

A “feminized” remake?

Don’t leave out the key element here, mmmmkay?

Not to mention the original wasn’t exactly a HAPPY ending...

[–] kjc211 (52) 7 years ago

So you're crying about a movie because it has women in it this time? Why is that a key element? Why is one remake okay but another isn't?

Such pathetic crying. I cant imagine a movie making me throw a tantrum. What's happening in your life to make you care so much?

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Who the fuck said I was crying, shithead?

I was right about Ghostbusters and I’ll be right about this film taking an equal sized dump.

The only saving grace is the $70 million budget which will save the studio from losing $100 million like the aforementioned Ghostbusters film.

Don’t make me laugh by claiming my “opinion” is some form of haha “crying”.

[–] kjc211 (52) 7 years ago

Of course you're crying. You're crying like a little bitch because a movie is coming out. The real question is why do you care? Why does this movie existing cause you so much anguish and upset you so much? I cant imagine being so pathetic that a movie simply existing causes me to foam at the mouth.

You're rooting for the movie to fail, which is hilarious. You're obsessing over a movie that isn't even out yet. Most people would just not go see it, but you're here crying and whining like a little girl.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I’m not “rooting”, little crybaby.

Just stating an opinion based on history of the same formula used recently in a colossal failure.

The only one crying here is YOU...because you know the likelihood that I am right...is very strong.

So you cry louder and louder with each reply.

Go ahead...cry some more.

It’s entertaining.

[–] kjc211 (52) 7 years ago

All you're doing on this board is crying about this movie existing. You're so angry its coming out for reasons that aren't clear. Again, I cant imagine a movie causing an adult so much anguish and anger.

It might fail. It might suck. If it does, who cares? It's a movie. Lots of them fail. But you're just constantly whining and bitching about it for no reason at all.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Apparently YOU care, dummy.

Here you are desperately clinging to the pathetic notion that your crybaby comments somehow affect me while you seemingly defend a film doomed to fail.

Only one bitching...is YOU.

All you did in this latest response...is repeat the same bitching.

Whatcha gonna do for an encore, throw your rattle at me and bite your pacifier in half?

Go ahead.

I’ll wait. 🐱

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

We all SHOULD care because yet another redo/remake/reimagine/rewrite/rerun of a film is coming out, taking up valuable space AND TIME, where another, fully original, BETTER storied film would have played. Now, we may never get to see something original in this space.

Maybe Schrodinger's Cat can hook me up to see that alternative film? :D

[–] kjc211 (52) 7 years ago

There's new and original movies every year. Acting like we'll never get any more is absurd.

There are a lot of remakes and sequels and reboots today, but this movie gets more hate than others before it even comes out. Personally I'd rather see this than Jurassic World or Transformers.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Ocean's 11 is a remake and for whatever reason, I can tolerate it. The complete decadence is both fascinating and infuriating. I suppose that's the film's appeal (and, to be honest, the original Ocean's 11 is a bit boring).

[–] kjc211 (52) 7 years ago

Okay but you're being hypocritical. That remake is okay but this one isn't?

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I was just thinking... how cool, interesting, and appealing this might have been, had that NOT made it an Ocean's tie in?

Picture it: some slick, all female crime caper thing, a great trailer, cool story, interesting clever dialog, could have been a huge hit, maybe sparking up another great franchise.
Sure, might of had some familiar territory as another film set, but what doesn't anymore, am I right?

Call it, "The Girl's Game", whip out all the stars in it, give a dynamic soundtrack music, BAM! Major hit!
Instead, it feels like another money grab with the younger sisters of a big brothers movie.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I feel the same way. Watching women rob banks will always make for interesting cinema. Just give it a hint of originality, that's all.

And to be honest, I will probably end up seeing this movie anyway. It looks entertaining in spite of my critique.

[–] kjc211 (52) 7 years ago

Then what's the issue? If it ends up being a good movie, who cares? It's not worth the ridiculous complaints before the movie even comes out.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Logical fallacy committed: Missing the point.

[–] kjc211 (52) 7 years ago

The point is it's a movie designed to be entertaining. If it's a good movie, is it really worth the bitching? Especially when you admit you were okay with Oceans 11 being a remake. Again, hypocrisy.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

No. You've missed the point. Step away from the conversation and find some legos or something. They'll help you build your thinking skills.

[–] bosox (10) 7 years ago

Ironic that someone who's acting like a complete baby tells someone they're childish...

Why do you need to resort to insults in the first place? How sad that a movie makes you so angry you behave like a baby throwing a tantrum.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I'm sure I'll watch it too on streaming. :) As long as they hit the OCEANS notes, should be fun.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 7 years ago

Atomic Blonde was great.

[–] maximmm (3405) 7 years ago

Haha - I'm still waiting for the Hollywood to turn Huckleberry Fin into a gay orgy. Lots of dudes in those stories and very few females - it only makes sense for the liberal H to make the move.

[–] maximmm (3405) 7 years ago

By the way - while Ocean's 11 remake was ok - the sequels were truly horrible.
In other words, they are trying to piggybank on franchise which was already in the coffin.
Expect sequel quality - you know, seriously horrid writing.